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I like WKOM except for in the chorus, when she says "loves line theees" instead of this. She also does it in falsetto and I feel like it would have been better belted, at least for the final chorus or something. Haven't listened to SJ in full yet. Her music takes a while to grow on me, so I'm reserving judgment until I can listen to more songs.

Boarding School: Get down like your tutor taught you to and do it! The live lyrics make it even better, "prove it." Damn You: Baby (baby). I don't really like this song much, but that part is beautiful wistful. Hollywood's Dead: Say goodnight, you're soooo beautiful. The high note really ties that final chorus together. Prom Song Gone Wrong: The synth during "I'd see you in the hall like hello hello up against the wall like let's go let's go". Million Dollar Man: at the final chorus. "You're screwed up and brilliant, look like a million dollar man *snap* so why is my heart broke." That snap goes so well in that empty beat, and it only shows up in the end. It's the one thing I miss when listening to the MDM demo.

I don't think Flipside is a good song.

Read the first post in the Lanalysis thread for the best explanation. He's not really a boyfriend, maybe more like an admirer?

I need that final version of LoD. That nasty edit is my 2nd most played song, and that's even with the poor cuts. Other than that, well, I know there's not a lot left, and I feel like over time it'll come out. The last time a song I thirsted for leaked (Greenwich) it was not what I expected, and everyone was sort of thrown for a loop with Bentley. Roses sounds like a legit finished song, but I feel like all the expectations for it will lead to inevitable disappointment. Be My Daddy from the title alone promises YBTTB-type shenanigans (and I love her daddy shenanigans ) but Daddy Issues did too and that song is a disappointment in every meaning. I love Hollywood's Dead and I'm curious as to what a final version would be like, but I don't really need it. I don't like Damn You that much now but the snippets of the final make it sound better, so I'm curious too. The thirst has been quenched, for the most part. EDIT: Oh, OTTR demo. How do we not have that yet. How. If this never leaks I will scream into a pillow and move on with my life.

It's bad of me, but I don't really trust Lana when she says her record is gonna be jazz or "unlistenable" or whatever. She called some of her old stuff "surf metal" and nothing she's ever done is even remotely metal. If she really went jazz for an album, with crazy chord progressions and polyrhythms, I'd be very excited, but I think the jazz she's talking about isnt like that. Nevertheless, I do trust her musical judgment; she went psychedelic rock on UV and it worked. I've been listening to her a cappella demos and they're so neat. Way back when the only title we knew of for album 2 was "Black Beauty, " she said she was going for "stacked acappellas." None of the leaked tracks really fit that description to me, so I wonder what she was referring to.

That blonde hair on the AKA cover is clearly bleached. Plus it doesn't match her eyebrows or eyelashes at all. Many people are born with blonde hair that darkens during childhood. I was born blonde and now I'm not. She's changed her hair color so many times that I'm not sure if she's ever left it natural or undyed that we know of.

What is Lana's natural hair color, and do we have photos of it? I'm inclined to think it's dirty blonde like her sister, but I don't know.

I'm going back to Aberdeen real lyric: I'm going back to Arbor Dean. Walk back to where we live in my motel, on 18 Avenue real lyric: Neptune Avenue Baby I'm a forum on fire real: four alarm fire Switzer real killer real: sweet serial killer Got a fist like God Real: face like god Shining like a god, can't believe I got you inside Real: you and so (?) Lighter on my waist Real: leather on my waist

I do the same thing, only not color coded. Clearly we are kindred spirits.

This! She got what she had coming when she was fired and was a laughingstock. The amount of vitriol I see aimed at her just sort of shocks me.

Am I alone in thinking people are overreacting to this? It's as if people had a burning desire to be cruel and snide, and this gave them carte blanche to act how they like. I can't and won't defend Natalia's behavior (because it's inexcusable and awful), but I've seen pretty vile comments over this ultimately unimportant event (not a single person I know irl has mentioned this or even knows what it is). Ironically, everyone is saying her career is over, yet you see long-dead threads about her being revived, even if only to insult her. People who didn't know her know her now, even if it's just as "the nasty woman fired from X factor NZ." She's even gained followers. All publicity is good publicity when you're not famous, I suppose. The one good thing from this mess? We have a new copypasta. "As an artist who respects creative integrity" has been gaining use.

The people who are tasked with responding to e-mails value brevity since they have to deal with so many e-mails on a daily basis. I've gotten worse replies to (important) inquiries. It also depends on the school and its culture - a prestigious, culturally conservative and expensive private school will (probably) respond differently compared to a liberal arts college or a state school. I've noticed that colleges with very low acceptance rates (below 10%) tend to be more formal in their replies while colleges that are not extremely selective tend to be less formal (Fordham's acceptance rate is 47%). Basically, from my experience with colleges, I didn't think it was weird at all. I did think calling her Lana Del Rey was weird, but my e-mail called her that and I only included her real name for looking it up. She is a famous person and she's famous under the name Lana Del Rey, not Elizabeth Grant; calling famous people by their legal names can feel weirdly intimate (which is why I never refer to Lady Gaga as Ms. Germanotta, for example). I imagine any files they have on her would be under Elizabeth Grant, but perhaps they've gotten this question before and know that this is relevant to Lana, famous person, not random student Elizabeth Grant. Unfortunately, this is all they gave me in the e-mail and I kind of didn't want to pry any more than I'd already done. If you'd like to try yourself to see if you get a more detailed or different response, google Fordham alumni office, which is how I got in touch with them. They responded fairly quickly, as you can see. (Please don't drown them in e-mails though; they're probably fairly busy with non-Lana stuff)

The Fordham alumni office finally got back to me. Take this as you will.

(AKA deserves to be on a list of best debut albums but whatever...) Congrats to BTD! I bought the vinyl a couple of days ago. It's such a great album, although it took me a while to really love it. Probably my 2nd favorite Lana album (AKA is first, UV third, P last. I'm not including Sirens because that's just existing on another dimension and was never officially released anyway). I can still play it from start to finish and not get tired of it (although I'll probably skip Dark Paradise and Carmen )

Haven't heard So Over You or Red Balloon yet. :v Can anyone recommend albums or songs that sound like True Romance? I love the feel of that album.

Wasn't Roses produced by Rick Nowels?

Live or Die V2 is my current jam. "I be murderin' em, murderin' em just for fun" has never sounded so saccharine!

You want a leak of that kind?

Probably not a very good source, but this link from Fordham Daily says she graduated 2008. Does the writer actually know this because it's well known among Fordham students or are they parroting something they read? I e-mailed the Fordham alumni office in the hopes of getting something definitive, but inclement weather has closed them down for the day. They'll start responding to "voicemails and e-mails" tomorrow. What luck!

The monophthongization of /aɪ/ to [aː] is distinctively Southern. A farmer from Minnesota won't sound like that. A farmer from Mississippi might. You can still find city dwellers who do this although since it's a stigmatized feature it's less common. Similarly, the breaking of /ɪ/ to [ɪjə] (ah weeyill) is Southern. It's more likely to be encountered if you're working class (rural or urban), but you can find middle class speakers. This particular feature (along with breaking other front vowels) is what people know as the Southern drawl. When you say rural, do you mean like Appalachian english? That does share the monophthongization of /aɪ/, although it changes to a different vowel. It also doesn't have the drawl. They're often conflated in the popular imagination, though, so someone trying to sound "southern" or "rural" might borrow from both. I can't explain that, but done as an auxiliary verb for past tense is a feature of Southern english. It's one of the many features of Southern english people mock. Perhaps some features have spread?

@@PrettyBaby and anyone else, I'm trying to make a sort of proto-BTD album. Basically the same thing PrettyBaby did with The Revenge of Lana Del Rey, but with different songs. Kinda Outta Luck National Anthem (Nexus version) Driving In Cars with Boys (the long version) Lolita (Demo 3) Dark Paradise (I got the ice...) Without You (piano demo) Lucky Ones (Demo) Summertime Sadness (Demo) Hundred Dollar Bill (the one WITHOUT the Ruby Tuesday's verse) You Can Be The Boss Diet MTN Dew (the one with the pre-chorus and that doesn't sound like it was recorded on a potato) Video Games (Demo) Radio (demo) Million Dollar Man (demo) This is what makes us Girls (demo2, does NOT end with "to all the little queens, do you know what you're worth") You'll notice I'm missing BTD, OTTR, BJ, and Carmen. BTD, BJ, and C simply didn't have demos suitable for this. They were either too crappy in quality or already too Emile-ified. OTTR... well, we (currently) have no demo - leakers, if you want to change this horrendous situation, feel free to at any time My issue is the 2nd half - too many slow songs and less produced demos. How can I keep it hot?

I'm unsure if this has anything to do with this, but I find it curious that she uses a (bad) Southern accent on AKA. It's most prominent in Mermaid Motel (because ah am) and, infamously, OSCYS (and ah weeyill). Listen to any of her interviews and you'll be able to tell that this is not her native accent (neither is the exaggerated New York accent she uses on UV, but that's a different topic). If her time in Alabama coincided with her recording AKA, it could explain why she puts on this fake accent - she's feeling inspired by the people around her, who possibly had Southern accents (the Iggy Azalea defense? ) It also explains why it hasn't shown up since then - nothing from Born To Die on has had that fake Southern accent. The odd thing is not all of AKA has this accent. Yayo doesn't really have it. Smarty doesn't. Brite Lites does (ah'm goin' back to Arbor Dean, where when I was a beauty queen). Kill Kill does in the 2nd verse (do ah know rye is going to meet you). Inexplicably, Raise me Up (Mississippi South) does not have this accent. Why? And why did she feel she had to put use an accent other than her native one for her debut album? I do think it's got to have something to do with her time in the South. She also talks about Florida a lot - Aviation (Pensacola), Florida Kilos (title and "we could get high in Miami"), Florida Dark (Kill Kill), Axl Rose Husband (you look like a Florida native), Delicious (South Beach). That makes 3 Southern states she's mentioned: Florida, Alabama, Mississippi. And she says she got the name "Lana Del Rey" when hanging out with Cuban friends in Miami. Do I believe her? Who knows. She also experiments with non-standard English in Sirens, with My Momma: my momma, she would say you was a hoodlum but I done known a hoodlum, you don't pass the test. She's still singing with her native accent, but she's clearly trying something out since she does not speak like this in her interviews or at concerts. "You was" is pretty run-of-the-mill in non-standard English varieties, but "done known" narrows it down to Southern American English.

I recall reading on this forum that there is a title track for Paradise, but it's unreleased and unleaked (the Paradise we have is apparently older). Also I can't believe I missed the fun Small Ears and Ugly When You Smile...

It's the same chord progression. It is striking for us as Lana fans, especially since we know Lana and Jimmy (and Reeve, with whom he was performing) have some kind of history, but I don't think two chords repeated is really enough to peg this as anything other than a coincidence. I've definitely heard it before in other songs as well; if I can remember names, I'll post here. How old would Jimmy and Lana have been when they met/"dated" (I put it in quotes because it's fuzzy as to whether it happened or not)? I know he was older than her, but I don't know during what time period they hung around or anything of the sort. I think Barrie is the first confirmed relationship we know of where she's dating a younger man, interestingly enough.