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  1. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in AJay Deluxe   
    this is everything i’ve been wanting for months 
  2. Venice Jesus Whore liked a post in a topic by prettywhenimhigh in AJay Deluxe   
    this moment I paused at is sending me
     

  3. lili liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Lana Del Ray AKA Lizzy Grant - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    Imagine your debut album being AKA.
     
    AKA is that bitch. So creative and unique.
  4. Venice Jesus Whore liked a post in a topic by Embach in "Norman Fucking Rockwell" & "Chemtrails Over The Country Club" Album Recording/Writing Timeline + Creative Process Discussion   
    Here, we discuss about the writing/recording sessions, production, lyrics, collaborators, outtakes, visuals, themes and the behind of scenes of making of albums "Norman Fucking Rockwell!" and "Chemtrails Over The Country Club".
     
    Already starting in 2017, Lana's creative process began to take a slightly different direction, completely changing with the meeting of Jack Antonoff - one of the main producers of the next five years, and now we will try to tell you how Lana's creative process went with the new producer.
     
    A complete sound change in early 2018 is preceded by a six-month period in Lana's work, during which she had a writer's block and had few new ideas coming to her until late 2017, and because of that her creative journey had several paths to follow:
     
    1. The release of a follow-up album to "Lust for Life, which was to include an original version of the song "Best American Record", "Silverlake" and other "Lust for Life" outtakes. Those plans were canceled after a Jack Antonoff meeting in very early 2018;
     
    2. To continue working on the sixth album (which would later become "Norman Fucking Rockwell!") with Rick Nowels. So, during this period several songs were made: "Bartender" (which would later become part of the sixth album) and unknown sessions through the end of 2017, during which a number of unknown tracks were made, one of them - "Get Dark", that was recorded in September 2017.
     
    But in January 2018, Lana contacted Jack, and he suggested we "meet, sit down, and just start doing something." Before meeting him, Lana expected him to have some ready-made beat ideas she could use, for Jack's production history is mostly pop-oriented, but Lana would later reveal, ". he spent hours playing chords, and he plays the piano so well that some of the things that he writes, like just melodically, really - it's kind of a classic - and in my case it ended up being more folk-oriented.", "...and in the first week I had two songs that I thought were probably the two best songs that I'd ever written." Here she's probably referring to "hope is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have - but i have it" and "Love Song," which were ready the day Lana and Jack first met (January 29, 2018) *Lana told Vogue Korea in an interview that the process of writing "hope is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have - but i have it" took her 3 years*.

     
    For the next year and a half, Lana continued to work on the music exclusively with Jack, describing their process as "(Jack) played me five chords in a row, which ended up becoming a new song each time". Unfortunately, we are almost unaware of the timeline of Lana's creative process on her sixth album, "Norman Fucking Rockwell!", except for the dates of work on the released tracks, which are presented below:
     
    - "Venice bitch" (the first version was done in February 2018 [the same version used at the end of the track "Taco Truck x VB"]; the final version was done on June 26, 2018);
    - "Norman fucking Rockwell" (the track was reworked from the "Bird World" song, which was made January 29, 2018; final version made June 27, 2018);
    - "Happiness is a butterfly" (originally titled "Happiness"; first version was made in March 2018; final version made June 30, 2018);
    - "hope is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have - but i have it" (originally called "Sylvia" and "Sylvia Plath"; first version made January 29, 2018; final version made August 4, 2018);
    - "Love Song" (first version made January 29, 2018; final version made August 6, 2018);
    - "Mariners apartment complex" (originally titled "I'm Your Man"; first version made February 2018; final version made August 31, 2018);
    - "Cinnamon Girl" (originally titled "Cinnamon"; first version made October 2018; final version made December 18, 2018);
    - "California" (track is a reworking of a song from 2017; final version made January 18, 2019);
    - "How to disappear" (first version made in October 2018; final version made January 20, 2019);
    - "The greatest" (first version made in 2018/2019; final version made February 13, 2019);
    Undisclosed dates:
    - "Bartender" (the track was made in 2017 with Rick Nowles; for the first time, Lana revealed the track's existence on January 28, 2018, and said it "does not yet belong on an upcoming record"; the track played on Lana's sister Chuck Grant [Chuck Grant]'s Instagram Stories on May 10, 2018);
    - "The Next Best American Record" (a reworked version of the track "Best American Record"; it is unknown when Lana reworked the track and when it became part of her sixth album);
     
    RMF Classic Radio on November 3, 2018 once again confirmed what Lana had said on September 18, 2018, that the album was to be released in late March and that there would be 11 tracks on it (which ones are unknown). Also, in December 2018, MTV UK reported that the album would be released on March 29, 2019, and in December, Lana reported that the album was completely finished and also liked an article stating a March release date for the album.

     
    Up to March 29th, various information from different sources kept coming in, either denying or confirming the album's release in March. But when March 29th came, the album was not released for unknown reasons.
     
    Over the next 5 months, Lana makes two new songs for the record (Doin' Time [April 2019] and Fuck it I love you [July 2019]), and the world premiere of Lana's sixth studio album Norman Fucking Rockwell! took place on August 30, 2019, and songs made during sessions for the album but not included are:
     
    - "Not All Who Wonder Are Lost" (originally titled "Wanderlust"; the track was made during the sessions for "Norman Fucking Rockwell!" but the original version was released on the next album, "Chemtrails Over the Country Club");
    - "Valley of the Dolls" (concept demo, was made February 14, 2017 during sessions with The Last Shadow Puppets; later sent as a track idea along with some other unknown tracks for revision to Jack Antonoff; the track was never revised by him);
    - "LA Who Am I" (snippet; the track was likely made just for fun, and is a reworked version of the track "LA Who Am I to Love You" from 2016);
    - "Talking like an Answering Machine" (the song was first listed on Buma/Sterma and there were rumors that the song was not made until 2018; the chances that the song is real and refers to Lana are higher than that the song is unreal);
    - "Bombastic" Outtakes (told by Jack Antonoff during an interview that tracks with an "explosive" sound were made during the sessions for the album that remain unleaked);
    - Rick Nowels Outtakes (it was revealed that there are songs made by Rick Nowels for the sixth studio album that remain unleaked).
    - "Jimmy" part from "A&W" (In an interview for Rolling Stones, Jack Antonoff talked about the process of making "Jimmy" and "that they had created a while back" suggesting that it was made during the NFR sessions).
     
    Thank you for the information @lanaismamom 
  5. none liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kim Petras   
    im dead serious. No one makes hype trashy fun pop anthems and albums like this anymore. Reminds me of early 2010s pop. 
  6. none liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kim Petras   
    Slut Pop is my favorite album/EP/project since NFR
  7. none liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kim Petras   
    Me enjoying and supporting an album isn’t going to change that. Thanks for being so judgmental though. 
     
    This bandwagoning and moral superiority attitude that online anonymity fosters is not how real face-to-face conversations work. I miss when people were more empathetic and open minded to views that weren’t their own. 
     
    Why not agree to disagree instead of insulting me? Enjoy your high horse I guess. 
  8. none liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kim Petras   
    I’m just going to speak my truth here, however unpopular it may be. This is the most excited I’ve been about any album in I seriously don’t know how long. I’ve missed this kind of empowering, hype (not hyper) pop so much. I love the oversexualization of it. The lyrics and vibes generally just make me laugh and smile. Just hearing the beginning of Slut Pop makes me smile. 
     
    I love how dedicated she’s been to her “porn era” like what she did for her website. I just think it’s fun, empowering, and I love it. I think it’s genius. I don’t like that she’s working with Dr. Luke or Larry Rudolf, but l I want her and the album to succeed and do well because I enjoy it so much, plus the trans representation. I want this kind of pop to come back. 
     
    Call me a rape apologist, lacking in taste, or whatever you want, but this album and era made me fan. I’ll be steaming it and might even buy it to show my support. And I like it better than anything else she’s done previously. 
  9. trailerparkdream liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Ultraviolence - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    thinking about how risky and bold it was that Lana released West Coast as the first single after the BTD/Paradise/Y&B era. A complete change up in sound and a tempo change with the chorus becoming slower than the verses… and somehow it all works insanely well. That’s how I knew she wasn’t a one trick pony. It takes a serious artist to pull that off. 
  10. jaesana liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Ultraviolence - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    thinking about how risky and bold it was that Lana released West Coast as the first single after the BTD/Paradise/Y&B era. A complete change up in sound and a tempo change with the chorus becoming slower than the verses… and somehow it all works insanely well. That’s how I knew she wasn’t a one trick pony. It takes a serious artist to pull that off. 
  11. GeminiLanaFan liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Ultraviolence - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    thinking about how risky and bold it was that Lana released West Coast as the first single after the BTD/Paradise/Y&B era. A complete change up in sound and a tempo change with the chorus becoming slower than the verses… and somehow it all works insanely well. That’s how I knew she wasn’t a one trick pony. It takes a serious artist to pull that off. 
  12. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in The Idol   
    It’s currently sitting at 9% on Rotten Tomatoes 
     
    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_idol/s01
  13. Veinsineon liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Tove Lo   
    I need to give it a try today with the bonus tracks you added 
  14. All Around the Moon liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Blvd - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll   
    So now that the dust has settled a bit, I think this album may be sliding a bit down on the list of my favorite Lana albums, but I still consider it to be her best or close to it objectively. I originally considered it my #1 favorite Lana album, but I find myself wanting to skip the title track, Fingertips, Grandfather, LTLI, and Margaret now. But maybe I'm just in that "I overplayed the album" phase. I don't think I've ever had an album where I haven't wanted to skip at least one track eventually.
  15. WaitForLife liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kesha   
    you don't wanna be changed like it changed me
     

  16. cj1995 liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Tove Lo   
    The OG tracklist does have some problems for me. If I'm not replacing/removing any tracks, I think it should be:
    No One Dies from Love 2 Die 4 Suburbia True Romance Grapefruit Cute & Cruel Call on Me Attention Whore Pineapple Slice Kick in the Head How Long  I'm to Blame The fact that I'm to Blame interrupted what could've been the 1-2-3-4 punch of Call On Me/Attention Whore/Pineapple Slice/Kick in the Head/How Long was REALLY jarring to me on the first listen to the point where it kinda killed the momentum of the album for me. I would definitely would've replaced Cute & Cruel and I'm to Blame with Borderline and I like u if it were up to me. I still like Cute & Cruel and I'm to Blame, but I skip them like 98% of the time.
  17. Drinks on the Patio liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kesha   
    you don't wanna be changed like it changed me
     

  18. Veinsineon liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kesha   
    you don't wanna be changed like it changed me
     

  19. WildChild liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kesha   
    you don't wanna be changed like it changed me
     

  20. Inferno Euphoria liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Tove Lo   
    I need to give it a try today with the bonus tracks you added 
  21. LunaeManifestum liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kesha   
    you don't wanna be changed like it changed me
     

  22. mssainttropez liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kesha   
    you don't wanna be changed like it changed me
     

  23. sxcx liked a post in a topic by Venice Jesus Whore in Kesha   
    you don't wanna be changed like it changed me
     

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