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What's really crazy is the sheer amount of directions she had to go in. I saw at least three different things called for by large groups of fans-- pop rock from her early days (this was me. still grieving the Olivia Rodrigo collab rumor ), big 2010s pop, and the retro direction of NRO/HiH. She chose 2010s pop, which is totally fine, but for some reason she didn't make good music?? That's what really boggles me. There are tons of people doing a good job with the sound right now! Not saying that Bonnie McKee is topping charts or anything, but the music itself is good, and that's all Katy needed. Her name pretty much takes care of promo by itself. Why couldn't KATY PERRY make good 2010s music????? With Dr. Luke? Were they asleep or something? Problematique is a no-skips masterpiece, but somehow with six times the producers Katy still couldn't produce two good songs. I feel fucking crazy

OK now that we know Lifetimes tanked I have to say this somewhere... I don't really understand the claim that "Katy gets more shit for working with Luke than anyone else." Rant incoming.
 
Aaaaaaaaand I'm done. Not saying this about everyone here because it seems like we're on the same page, but it's annoying as hell to have to field this in every other discussion about Katy as if there isn't good (or at least obvious) reason for how people are acting.
 
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What's really crazy is the sheer amount of directions she had to go in. I saw at least three different things called for by large groups of fans-- pop rock from her early days (this was me. still grieving the Olivia Rodrigo collab rumor ), big 2010s pop, and the retro direction of NRO/HiH. She chose 2010s pop, which is totally fine, but for some reason she didn't make good music?? That's what really boggles me. There are tons of people doing a good job with the sound right now! Not saying that Bonnie McKee is topping charts or anything, but the music itself is good, and that's all Katy needed. Her name pretty much takes care of promo by itself. Why couldn't KATY PERRY make good 2010s music????? With Dr. Luke? Were they asleep or something? Problematique is a no-skips masterpiece, but somehow with six times the producers Katy still couldn't produce two good songs. I feel fucking crazy

TOTL as a brunette would EAT

deluding myself into thinking the 16 track bit is fake and well actually get 25-30 tracks in some way because there's no way we are just missing 12 songs from the project... 

theres a sophie tribute party happening on soph's birthday sept 17 in LA
 
if anyone can go they should record for history!!

wowww the final sounds so fucking good  the visualizers have all been so good too I wish there was one for Berlin Nightmare 
and the cover for Exhilarate is sickening too... like why isn't that the album cover lowkey 

I love that we're all ignoring the Katy x Kim collab 

Consider me intrigued!! I think her lyrics can be super clunky and the style is a little all over the place, but it's all over the place in a very promising way-- kind of like she's saying "I can do anything." And vocally wow she sure can  Where was all this hiding?! Sad I can't make it to her tour now. Still waiting for an album that really gives us WHO Sabrina is, but this is a nice starter for sure. Anyone feeling kind of a One of the Boys pinup girl possibility here...?

Consider me intrigued!! I think her lyrics can be super clunky and the style is a little all over the place, but it's all over the place in a very promising way-- kind of like she's saying "I can do anything." And vocally wow she sure can  Where was all this hiding?! Sad I can't make it to her tour now. Still waiting for an album that really gives us WHO Sabrina is, but this is a nice starter for sure. Anyone feeling kind of a One of the Boys pinup girl possibility here...?

It's funny, I'm just having it in the background right now, not knowing the song's title, and as soon as I read your post I knew it was that song, and it was. Super cute.
 
The album is fine, imo. On a first listen, it doesn't sound like it contains any highs at the level of Espresso or Please. Some of the songs sound like fairly generic radio fodder.
 
But it's a fine album. Bettter than Dua Lipa's, but not by much. Nowhere near Cowboy Carter or Hit Me Hard and Soft.

She performed Slim Pickins at the Grammy Museum- laidback country vibe, but who knows what the album production will be, could be a How To Disappear situation where the performance is completely diff from the album. The lyrics are interesting, a bit clunky, but it has that Sabrina cheekiness to it which I’m endeared to. I’m so excited for the album!

i have not been a fan of a lot of sabrina's past discography, with the exception of sue me and a few off of emails, but this album has completely won me over. my only complaint is that it's too short!! (n' sweet) 

taste is the second best song i’ve ever heard, first being diet pepsi by addison rae 

She should've just went for the acoustic album, played into the whole "being a mom" thing. Give us some more songs like I'm Still Breathing, Daisies and Thinking Of You! Even her cover of Hackensack was amazing!
 
Kinda sad she thought the only way she would be successful was to artistically retreat back to the black hair/pin up aesthetic. And then the ludicrous decision to work with THAT producer in hopes of regaining past glories.
 
I really don't know where she would go from here and thanks to this era's antics, I frankly don't care or empathise for her.

I love that we're all ignoring the Katy x Kim collab 

OK now that we know Lifetimes tanked I have to say this somewhere... I don't really understand the claim that "Katy gets more shit for working with Luke than anyone else." Rant incoming.
 
Aaaaaaaaand I'm done. Not saying this about everyone here because it seems like we're on the same page, but it's annoying as hell to have to field this in every other discussion about Katy as if there isn't good (or at least obvious) reason for how people are acting.
 
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Admittedly I did kind of enjoy her floppage during Witness, mostly because I was still sore about the Roar/Applause thing, but I actually thought the album was fine as a whole. CTTR itself was a pretty good lead single in hindsight and arguably the only song on the album that had a good social message that actually resonated imho. Too bad Bone Apple Tea and Swish Swish were generic as hell and sort of ruined the point of "purposeful pop". 
 
Then Smile came and flopped harder, which I thought was actually a shame and I started to feel bad for Katy. NRO was a great pop song and so was HIH, but she was screwed over during the release of the latter because her label was stuck using early-2010s promo methods and not being able to adapt to the current streaming environment. 
 
But I'm back to being annoyed at Katy in this era due to her and her team not learning any lessons from her previous two album rollouts, and her actually taking a major step back by working with Luke again. She had garnered a lot of goodwill over the past couple of years with American Idol and TikTok making HIH go viral at one point, but she completely botched it. I genuinely don't know what her next step should be because she's pretty much dug her own grave. 

I miss her. We were too spoiled last year getting both FTB and Problematique months apart. I really hope she releases TOTL3 this year. 

OK now that we know Lifetimes tanked I have to say this somewhere... I don't really understand the claim that "Katy gets more shit for working with Luke than anyone else." Rant incoming.
 
Aaaaaaaaand I'm done. Not saying this about everyone here because it seems like we're on the same page, but it's annoying as hell to have to field this in every other discussion about Katy as if there isn't good (or at least obvious) reason for how people are acting.
 
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OK now that we know Lifetimes tanked I have to say this somewhere... I don't really understand the claim that "Katy gets more shit for working with Luke than anyone else." Rant incoming.
 
Aaaaaaaaand I'm done. Not saying this about everyone here because it seems like we're on the same page, but it's annoying as hell to have to field this in every other discussion about Katy as if there isn't good (or at least obvious) reason for how people are acting.
 
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You make good points. I'll just have to add that I think Woman's World being the lead single and the song being a hot pile of garbage while also being produced by Luke really killed all the momentum this era could have had. It's one thing to work with him, but it's another to work with him and get something much worse than anything you've produced without him. It just doesn't make sense why she thought this was a good idea. As you've said, she has options. Her most successful post-Chain to the Rhythm era was Never Really Over, a song produced by Zedd and was beloved by fans (and is often cited as something that should have been bigger if pushed better). Not to mention Harley's in Hawaii keeps randomly getting picked up by the tiktok algorithm. That proves she still has it even post-Witness! She just got too desperate and her team blindly followed her. I sincerely think she needs to fire her entire team, change labels, and start anew after this album cycle. 

OK now that we know Lifetimes tanked I have to say this somewhere... I don't really understand the claim that "Katy gets more shit for working with Luke than anyone else." Rant incoming.
 
Aaaaaaaaand I'm done. Not saying this about everyone here because it seems like we're on the same page, but it's annoying as hell to have to field this in every other discussion about Katy as if there isn't good (or at least obvious) reason for how people are acting.
 
inb4 comment on my icon/signature... yeah I know I suffer more than Jesus

OK now that we know Lifetimes tanked I have to say this somewhere... I don't really understand the claim that "Katy gets more shit for working with Luke than anyone else." Rant incoming.
 
Aaaaaaaaand I'm done. Not saying this about everyone here because it seems like we're on the same page, but it's annoying as hell to have to field this in every other discussion about Katy as if there isn't good (or at least obvious) reason for how people are acting.
 
inb4 comment on my icon/signature... yeah I know I suffer more than Jesus

OK now that we know Lifetimes tanked I have to say this somewhere... I don't really understand the claim that "Katy gets more shit for working with Luke than anyone else." Rant incoming.
 
Aaaaaaaaand I'm done. Not saying this about everyone here because it seems like we're on the same page, but it's annoying as hell to have to field this in every other discussion about Katy as if there isn't good (or at least obvious) reason for how people are acting.
 
inb4 comment on my icon/signature... yeah I know I suffer more than Jesus