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Btw, do we have an Allie tracker? I've been thinking of doing one but I don't know if there's one already

Was just revisiting Collxtion I and wow what a bulletproof record. From the production to the lyrics to the imagery.
And what a time to stan her. Such a breath of fresh air in the pop landscape.
 
I hope she releases some music this year, I miss her presence in the scene.

I wonder if marina understands why we like savages (and her older political songs) but not her recent ones or if she’s confused by it.
 
like if she was at home like ‘I’m actually going to give the gays what they want, savages 2.0’ then sat there like at the response

I can see the vision, but the execution is very sloppy. The video is also not very dynamic.
I get that she has very limited budget, but I feel like there were other ways that she could've optimized her concepts to make the finished product a little less amateur.
 
Also, imo huge mistake to advertise this as the long awaited sequel to Army of Love. Nothing in the song or the video indicates that it's supposed to be some sort of part 2 to the story.

Marina stop writing about feminism without reading feminist literature challenge 

every fucking time I see her stomach it calls me fat and tells me to call weight watchers god I have such a jealousy-hate for her body

honestly I hate to break it to everyone but I don’t think we’ll ever get the demo unless marina shares it herself.
 
from what I’ve heard hackers get songs when they’re sent to someone else (there’s a site artists use that’s supposed to ‘delete the file’ after a certain amount of time but it actually doesn’t) this whole ‘omg Charli’s google drive got hacked’ type of hacking is a myth. we would have waaaay more stuff if this was the case. this is also why it’s really important you change your password if it’s leaked and turn on 2FA, there are massive databases with passwords and emails just... out there (I realise this gives off massive ‘my label didn’t force me to release this album’ vibes but idc I’m not involved I just find hacking/leaking culture absolutely fascinating)
 
marina wrote and recorded froot in the studio, so she probably just played david the song right off her macbook and didn’t send it to him or anyone else until it was further along in production & this is why no one has it, cause they’d have to somehow get onto marinas harddrive itself and I’m sure that would involve sending her a Trojan horse of some kind

my Land + Fill theory is that she was pushed into releasing the album by her team and label. Since she didn't feel confident or felt pressured to go down a more 'commercial' sounding route, maybe another shot of her having commercial success similar to Electra Shart. We know that atlantic asked her to do a video for bubblegum bitch after it blew up on tiktok (atlantic bffr) so if her label pressured her to go down a more 'commercially' sounding route, I wouldn't be surprised. 

Was just revisiting Collxtion I and wow what a bulletproof record. From the production to the lyrics to the imagery.
And what a time to stan her. Such a breath of fresh air in the pop landscape.
 
I hope she releases some music this year, I miss her presence in the scene.

Was just revisiting Collxtion I and wow what a bulletproof record. From the production to the lyrics to the imagery.
And what a time to stan her. Such a breath of fresh air in the pop landscape.
 
I hope she releases some music this year, I miss her presence in the scene.

Was just revisiting Collxtion I and wow what a bulletproof record. From the production to the lyrics to the imagery.
And what a time to stan her. Such a breath of fresh air in the pop landscape.
 
I hope she releases some music this year, I miss her presence in the scene.

Was just revisiting Collxtion I and wow what a bulletproof record. From the production to the lyrics to the imagery.
And what a time to stan her. Such a breath of fresh air in the pop landscape.
 
I hope she releases some music this year, I miss her presence in the scene.

True, I was in shock with how different and good it was compared to what the alt pop girls were doing. 
 
I became an instant star fan. 

Was just revisiting Collxtion I and wow what a bulletproof record. From the production to the lyrics to the imagery.
And what a time to stan her. Such a breath of fresh air in the pop landscape.
 
I hope she releases some music this year, I miss her presence in the scene.

Was just revisiting Collxtion I and wow what a bulletproof record. From the production to the lyrics to the imagery.
And what a time to stan her. Such a breath of fresh air in the pop landscape.
 
I hope she releases some music this year, I miss her presence in the scene.

Was just revisiting Collxtion I and wow what a bulletproof record. From the production to the lyrics to the imagery.
And what a time to stan her. Such a breath of fresh air in the pop landscape.
 
I hope she releases some music this year, I miss her presence in the scene.

im convinced that she was bound by contract that she needed to release an album every x amount of years. I remember one interview where she just randomly went "yeah, y'know it's not because I've signed a contract with atlantic records and I need to fulfil that contract". Like no one even questioned it, at all? But also she was like after a year of quitting I was still writing and wasn't allowing myself to stop. She quit in 2016, meaning she fully allowed herself to quit in 2017 (but a majority of LF outtakes were recorded during this time, so when did she quit? It definitely wasn't in 2018 because she recorded most of the final tracklist during this time. so um girl when did you properly quit?
I think the earlier tracks from the album are much better. I think she was writing for herself, opposed to release something. Then as she begun to come back to music more, she felt more pressured. But then she said that LF was made from a place that was not influenced by ego or validation.
Maybe it's the 4th album curse, idk. But I would've never seen marina make L+F, it's like so different, it feels so incohesive in my opinion, like AllForYou said, she used to do complete packages, Land + Fill felt more like an envelope that was posted without a postage stamp and got lost in the royal mail strikes. Like the only final LF tracks I could see Marina writing would be To Be Human, Handmade Heaven, Too Afraid and Soft To Be Strong, maybe End of The Earth too.
How did she go from puns like Shampain, EVOL and Just Desserts, that were all very well written, and authentic to her (imo) to OOOOORANGE TREES.
 

I think it's definitely not her, but this is kind of excellent?

there's no saving her pen now at this rate the minute her book is out it's going to get criticized so hard 'cause i swear it's gabbie hana style poetry 
 
like i'm sorry i love her but this isn't it... how do you go from writing something like "I'm a Ruin" ON YOUR OWN to this pile of shit? it's just disappointing and those idiots that are gonna eat up everything are just fucking idiots. and this style of poetry doesn't only make wanna throw out my stan card, it's very fucking bad for the poetry community... 

I feel awful for criticizing her because I love this woman, and it takes guts to write poetry and to share it with the world, but holy shit, that thing is horrendous.  I felt so embarrassed reading it.
 
It really made me think of the poems I used to write when I was an edgy teen. 
No need to say I stopped poetry and shifted to only writing stories. 
 
English isn't my mother tongue but I can tell it's incredibly bad style-wise. 
It looks like she used every tools in the poetry box to make it a poem; on top of my head, the overused hunger metaphor she hammers throughout (the more you overdo it, the less it becomes powerful and/or significant), the artificial, useless repetitions (approve/try/grind/ and then the i am free), those stacked words (?? I only get it if it's for the rhythm, or perhaps to highlight them, but I'm not sure it's effective). 
 
It's like she felt the need to use every figure of speech she knows so it looks like poetry. Real beginner error: it ends up being superficial and try-hard. It's not poetry but fancy words thrown on the paper just for the sake of it. It lacks subtelty and authenticity, which poetry should have. 
 
And if you need to disguise your words to make sure people get what the fuck you're doing, you're doing really bad.
 
I didn't plan on ranting that much because of a harmless poem but here I am.  Good for her if she's proud of her work and good for the stans to have new content.
What makes me disappointed and embarrassed, though, is the fact that woman used to be such a GOOD songwriter. She used to express things so simply and beautifully. You're supposed to get better at your craft with time, not the opposite. Seriously, what happened? 

My friend and I were literally just saying this last night
At some point (post Froot) it's like she just started writing what she thought people wanted to hear rather than genuine sentiments
People pleasing does not work in relation to art
She's been doing it for so long now that idk if she could really reverse it, though
I still like some of her more recent work but a lot of it is cringe 
 

starting to feel glad she changed stage names because this marina is basically a different person to the girl that was marina & the diamonds

i just think it’s so weird how she tried to change her image after Electra Heart- the infinitely iconic look & album that catapulted her to being a star, and then again tried to change it to be more “mature”(?) by dropping “and the Diamonds” from her state name and trying to write “mature” music e.g political, feminist, etc but failed miserably for the most part because the vast amount of her output since Froot has been beyond mediocre imo
And now she’s doing a Lana Del Rey and trying to get into poetry ?¿ and it’s just not good 
 
i feel so bad dragging her bc I want to love her so much & I really do adore her first 3 albums but like what the fuck yall

i think hollywood infected her brain