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TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021

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2 minutes ago, strange weather said:

It really doesn't. Why do people want her to state something that she doesn't feel authentically? So you can feel good about it? Too bad.

yeah like her saying shes a feminist or not isnt gonna change the fact I love her whole heartedly. how did this topic even come up? 

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2 minutes ago, strange weather said:

It really doesn't. Why do people want her to state something that she doesn't feel authentically? So you can feel good about it? Too bad.

we're just discussing her choice of words, i couldn't care less about her ideologies 

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Just now, DCooper said:

I believe she meant by the double negative that she has feminist values but the mainstream version of feminism has always bashed her and doesn't accept her place in it, so it's hard for her to fully identify as one. I think it's pretty silly to argue that she's against the concept of feminism. Her music and her power in the industry and controlling her own narrative clearly suggest otherwise, and the submissive themes she explores don't negate that at all.

Beautifully said! And I think Lana exploring her “feminine fragility” is an act that advocates for women or people of any gender really, who may not be given a voice in mainstream feminism, let alone other communities that are dominated by people who carry more power and weight in their rhetoric in regards to the conversations happening.

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30 minutes ago, IanadeIrey said:

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Manifesting... :legend:

 

I love everything about this: the color scheme, the font, the coke lines, the back, the vinyl color... everything.


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2 minutes ago, IanadeIrey said:

Beautifully said! And I think Lana exploring her “feminine fragility” is an act that advocates for women or people of any gender really, who may not be given a voice in mainstream feminism, let alone other communities that are dominated by people who carry more power and weight in their rhetoric in regards to the conversations happening.

 

Thank you and yes I fully agree! <3

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Remember Velvet Crowbar??? I want  a song like this..it would be a dream:wub:


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"Swan Song. It’s on my album Honeymoon. It’s the antithesis of hopefulness. It’s about trying to find beauty in giving up. If I had my way, I would continue to persist in all areas of my life, but it can be quite challenging because I can be too trusting too soon."

 

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1 minute ago, Pico Boulevard said:

Remember Velvet Crowbar??? I want  a song like this..it would be a dream:wub:

 

That song just came on shuffle for me right as you said that...

 

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3 minutes ago, DCooper said:

 

That song just came on shuffle for me right as you said that...

 

:legend:

This is a sign!! We'll get a song with Velvet Crowbar vibes on COCC :krylie:


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"Swan Song. It’s on my album Honeymoon. It’s the antithesis of hopefulness. It’s about trying to find beauty in giving up. If I had my way, I would continue to persist in all areas of my life, but it can be quite challenging because I can be too trusting too soon."

 

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35 minutes ago, House of Balloons said:

it seems to me like she's just pussying out of straightforwardly saying I'm a feminist rather than some 92828 iq word play to troll people 

 

It's saying her "feminism" has conditions to me, that's how I read it (and its implications) 

 

46 minutes ago, sansafuckingstark said:

Reading these last few pages made me low-key depressed so I just wanted to say : The album is coming out THIS MONTH:party:

 

It's already supposed to be out, Lana said the album was pretty much done in the interview and we know it is being mastered as we speak. I can't see her delaying it for more than a few weeks. 

 

Honestly I'd be surprised if it was still being mastered! Who knows why the sept 5th date went by, maybe she wanted to add another song or something like that, but I'd be surprised if they were still working on it this late in the game, which is a relief 


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6 minutes ago, IanadeIrey said:

Beautifully said! And I think Lana exploring her “feminine fragility” is an act that advocates for women or people of any gender really, who may not be given a voice in mainstream feminism, let alone other communities that are dominated by people who carry more power and weight in their rhetoric in regards to the conversations happening.

that still doesn't mean the other women who don't really check the fragile femininity box don't go through just as much if not more, which is why dropping those names invalidated her point. mainstream feminism is still partly virtual, the delicate fragile white woman lana is trying to defend is still more privileged than others in real life. 

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16 minutes ago, House of Balloons said:

that still doesn't mean the other women who don't really check the fragile femininity box don't go through just as much if not more, which is why dropping those names invalidated her point. mainstream feminism is still partly virtual, the delicate fragile white woman lana is trying to defend is still more privileged than others in real life. 

I didn’t say that other women who don’t check the fragile femininity box don’t go through just as much, if not more, so I agree with you there, but I think that if Lana tried to defend anyone other than the type of woman that she is, she would be seen as having a “saviour complex” and obviously she can’t speak for people whose experiences aren’t similar to hers. I think her mentioning the women that she clarified was in admiration, was not about how she felt as a woman in comparison to them, but rather how other women view other women, in the sense that women who have a more commanding or powerful presence are accepted more graciously in mainstream feminism, whereas people who don’t appear emotionally in control of situations are seen as an archaic woman. So while I understand the public’s reaction, I don’t really see how her mentioning other women invalidated her point when her whole point was about how modern feminism accommodates women who aren’t like Lana, personality-wise. Of course, there are so many other factors that play into it, including race and socioeconomic status, but Lana’s main argument was just about the varying responses towards female musicians who she feels sing about the same things as her, and she has claimed to have relationships with most of those women, if not all, so I think she was just making personal and nuanced analyses rather than ones focused solely on identity! :) 

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I feel like that shoot they did at that house was for a magazine cover and Neil shot the album cover on set at the music video. And then maybe the day she posted that IG photo on top of the car was a homemade video for tulsa jesus freak or lmlylaw... 

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19 minutes ago, IanadeIrey said:

I didn’t say that other women who don’t check the fragile femininity box don’t go through just as much, if not more, so I agree with you there, but I think that if Lana tried to defend anyone other than the type of woman that she is, she would be seen as having a “saviour complex” and obviously she can’t speak for people whose experiences aren’t similar to hers. I think her mentioning the women that she clarified was in admiration, was not about how she felt as a woman in comparison to them, but rather how other women view other women, in the sense that women who have a more commanding or powerful presence are accepted more graciously in mainstream feminism, whereas people who don’t appear emotionally in control of situations are seen as an archaic woman. So while I understand the public’s reaction, I don’t really see how her mentioning other women invalidated her point when her whole point was about how modern feminism accommodates women who aren’t like Lana, personality-wise. Of course, there are so many other factors that play into it, including race and socioeconomic status, but Lana’s main argument was just about female musicians who she feels sing about the same things as her, and she has claimed to have relationships with most of those women, if not all, so I think she was just making personal and nuanced analyses rather than ones focused on identity! :) 

mentioning 7 women in which 5 of them are black, calling them out for singing naked about cheating and fucking and then later on referring to yourself as a glamorous delicate person who sings about being in love is just...not it. i don't know why it's so hard for some of lana's fans to admit that she majorly fucked up (unintentionally, i believe) and could've voiced her struggles as a woman in the music industry without dismissing others', especially women who come from minority groups who probably faced more oppression than she had. 

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