GrenadineGrass 4,126 Posted December 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Terrence Loves Me said: there goes my hype, damn ma is 2 fully produced albums not enough, dear lord i feel like, he's going to be the MAIN producer but maybe we'll have some special guest, someone like the producer of bb's title track and textbook but not necessarily him. I just think that she will bring someone that no one would know that would be part of the project AND jack 1 *:･ﾟ✧:･ﾟ✧ i catch you on the flipside ✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alison by Slowdive 26,150 Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Terrence Loves Me said: there's going to be a song called Call Girl on this album otherwise known as 'talking like an answering machine', ugh, her mind, her playfulness, her nabokov-like command over words 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrenadineGrass 4,126 Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, Honeyyoung said: hope she belts more YESSSS but i think she need to go back with using auto-tune i love the raw vocals and it works for some songs that are AMAZING, although some would be far more beautiful if they were polished.... (sweet carolina and beautiful tease) 2 *:･ﾟ✧:･ﾟ✧ i catch you on the flipside ✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the ocean 67,601 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GrenadineGrass said: YESSSS but i think she need to go back with using auto-tune i love the raw vocals and it works for some songs that are AMAZING, although some would be far more beautiful if they were polished.... (sweet carolina and beautiful tease) i don't know how to feel about this like i mean you're right but i don't want it to be right no offense Edited December 23, 2021 by The Ocean changed wording a little bit because it originally came off a bit harsh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PatentLeatherDoOver 25,783 Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, GrenadineGrass said: YESSSS but i think she need to go back with using auto-tune While I love her raw vocals, I think using autotune as a stylistic choice can be really cool I know it’s controversial, but I LOVED Tulsa Jesus Freak’s autotune—a lot of Jack’s work utilized a similar effect with the instruments (like the electronic bit in Venice Bitch), and it was neat seeing him use Lana’s voice for it instead! 11 “…and this is all I looked for all my life – to be able to give of my love, my spontaneous joy, unreservedly, with no fear of…misuse, betrayal.” Sylvia Plath Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrence Loves Me 72,703 Posted December 23, 2021 she should put afraid on this album, her best pre born to die unreleased song! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alison by Slowdive 26,150 Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, PatentLeatherDoOver said: While I love her raw vocals, I think using autotune as a stylistic choice can be really cool I know it’s controversial, but I LOVED Tulsa Jesus Freak’s autotune—a lot of Jack’s work utilized a similar effect with the instruments (like the electronic bit in Venice Bitch), and it was neat seeing him use Lana’s voice for it instead! yes!! i think she really likes autotune as she's used it several times throughout her discography but it tends to be to ironic effect, which makes me love it even more 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plastiscguy 63,438 Posted December 23, 2021 I don't mind the messiness of the vocals or the lyrics, I just want a richer production, whether it's a ballad or a upbeat bop, enough of the stripped back bs! Take Black Bathing Suit for example, it's personal and raw but the production (while messy) is really interesting, something that most Chemtrails and Banisters lacked She can send a message with a rich production too. She can be vulnerable while having an orchestra or even something other than a faint piano in the background... 5 My rose garden dreams set on fire by fiends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrenadineGrass 4,126 Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, PatentLeatherDoOver said: While I love her raw vocals, I think using autotune as a stylistic choice can be really cool I know it’s controversial, but I LOVED Tulsa Jesus Freak’s autotune—a lot of Jack’s work utilized a similar effect with the instruments (like the electronic bit in Venice Bitch), and it was neat seeing him use Lana’s voice for it instead! i get it what you're trying to say, but in this specific case its not an auto-tune! It's a melotron and, you're right it's amazing!! the EXCESS of auto-tune It's commonly used by rappers, that reminds the mellotron but it's a different process and effect. 5 *:･ﾟ✧:･ﾟ✧ i catch you on the flipside ✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honeyyoung 17,096 Posted December 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, GrenadineGrass said: she need to go back with using auto-tune i get what you mean but they don't actually use auto-tune they just pitch the vocals or fix minor mistakes. but yeah blue banister's vocals were unpolished and one take because it's what the record needs, but if she's going to lean into a pop sound then she better make the vocals sound perfect. people complain about jack but he forced her to do MULTIPLE takes of a song to get the perfect vocals when necessary 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrenadineGrass 4,126 Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, Honeyyoung said: i get what you mean but they don't actually use auto-tune they just pitch the vocals or fix minor mistakes. but yeah blue banister's vocals were unpolished and one take because it's what the record needs, but if she's going to lean into a pop sound then she better make the vocals sound perfect. people complain about jack but he forced her to do MULTIPLE takes of a song to get the perfect vocals when necessary yea, like, the plugin IS an auto-tune but its not used like that by the producers but yea, the minor mistakes 1 *:･ﾟ✧:･ﾟ✧ i catch you on the flipside ✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venice Peach 54,293 Posted December 23, 2021 She's probably going to release her "favorite" song first and it's going to be a piano ballad so people will lose their minds. Then she’s releasing the song BOZ teased, an upbeat track with an amazing MV featuring the DNC jacked You heard (read) it here first 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plastiscguy 63,438 Posted December 23, 2021 I wouldn't mind having Jack back for a few songs. Norman is one of my favorites, and Chemtrails is actually good too! Yeah, some of their songs together ain't it, but let's be honest... y'all complained about Emile and Rick too! Y'all trashed some of the Born to Die and Lust for Life songs, like with every producer Lana has ever worked with 7 My rose garden dreams set on fire by fiends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PatentLeatherDoOver 25,783 Posted December 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, GrenadineGrass said: i get it what you're trying to say, but in this specific case its not an auto-tune! It's a melotron and, you're right it's amazing!! the EXCESS of auto-tune It's commonly used by rappers, that reminds the mellotron but it's a different process and effect. Wait, was TJF the mellotron autotune or Venice Bitch? Either way, that’s so interesting! 1 “…and this is all I looked for all my life – to be able to give of my love, my spontaneous joy, unreservedly, with no fear of…misuse, betrayal.” Sylvia Plath Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrence Loves Me 72,703 Posted December 23, 2021 i guess we will just have to live with it not everyone can be as good as rick nowels, we don't live in a perfect world 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrenadineGrass 4,126 Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, PatentLeatherDoOver said: Wait, was TJF the mellotron autotune or Venice Bitch? Either way, that’s so interesting! TJF was mellotron and i searched rn and apparently, venice bitch is autotune! 1 *:･ﾟ✧:･ﾟ✧ i catch you on the flipside ✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the ocean 67,601 Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Terrence Loves Me said: not everyone can be as good as david kahne, we don't live in a perfect world 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PatentLeatherDoOver 25,783 Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, GrenadineGrass said: TJF was mellotron and i searched rn and apparently, venice bitch is autotune! that’s so neat! I really would have assumed the sound at the end of TJF was just a vocal effect, but him using a mellotron to mimic it is honestly really impressive! 2 “…and this is all I looked for all my life – to be able to give of my love, my spontaneous joy, unreservedly, with no fear of…misuse, betrayal.” Sylvia Plath Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the ocean 67,601 Posted December 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, GrenadineGrass said: venice bitch is autotune ok i take back my reservations about autotune 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrenadineGrass 4,126 Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, PatentLeatherDoOver said: that’s so neat! I really would have assumed the sound at the end of TJF was just a vocal effect, but him using a mellotron to mimic it is honestly really impressive! i can't imagine lana doing this at studio for tulsa lol 1 minute ago, The Ocean said: ok i take back my reservations about autotune auto tune is everything, i believe in auto-tune supremacy 4 *:･ﾟ✧:･ﾟ✧ i catch you on the flipside ✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
