MARINA (and The Diamonds)

[Tana Mongeau 4,989]

Just now, AllForYou said:

omg well we all have to do our bit by recycling to save the planet

PLEASE.

[eyelovelefteye 1,703]

6 hours ago, AllForYou said:

coupled with 'yeah you might as well accept it' I get she meant something along the lines of 'accept your worst days are over, and enjoy your life (instead of waiting for the worst to happen again)' but the first time I heard that line it's not a bad message at it's heart, it's just written badly

I just find it hard to believe that all those talented songwriters sat there in that session and were like 'yes this can't be misconstrued whatsoever'

I remember playing Enjoy Your Life for my bestie when the album dropped & she goes “accept it!?” in the most horrified voice

Superstar, Human, Life is Strange, & About Love (not an album track- I know) are really the only tracks I despise from the record. There’s tons of sloppy writing scattered throughout the other songs too, but I feel like ADIAML has way worse lyrics in comparison. “You say you’ll ch-change, you say you’ll transfooorrrrm” “the food don’t taste like it’s meant to doooo”, “mystical bitches makin our own sisterhood”, “Like an angel gone to hell, cast the moon under our spell”, & the entire second verse of “Man’s World”… whew. 

[AllForYou 1,705]

45 minutes ago, eyelovelefteye said:

I remember playing Enjoy Your Life for my bestie when the album drops & she goes “accept it!?” in the most horrified voice

Superstar, Human, Life is Strange, & About Love (not an album track- I know) are really the only tracks I despise from the record. There’s tons of sloppy writing scattered throughout the other songs too, but I feel like ADIAML has way worse lyrics in comparison. “You say you’ll ch-change, you say you’ll transfooorrrrm” “the food don’t taste like it’s meant to doooo”, “mystical bitches makin our own sisterhood”, “Like an angel gone to hell, cast the moon under our spell”, & the entire second verse of “Man’s World”… whew. 

'fucked with the food chain fucked with the farming too' girl what I get the sentiment but that isn't a sentence

[Glitter Boy 16,560]

I just hope her lyricism goes back to the great days of Marina and the Diamonds.

In production terms I have no big issues (yeah some are bland, mostly in L+F) but she needs a second, third and fourth opinion on the lyrics (not the message, just the way the message is being worded out).

[AtomicMess 3,456]

On 2/12/2023 at 12:33 PM, 132 said:

radioactive dry vocal thing snippet

https://dbree.org/v/ee5c5f

The title of that link on dbpee is 

[AtomicMess 3,456]

5 hours ago, AllForYou said:

she's been very public about finding co-writing hard, it must be even more difficult to co-write with artist then wait anxiously on whether or not a load of people say their verses are better or whatever

 

Better than waiting anxiously to drop an entire album with lyrics that are aging like stale milk? 

[godsmonster 14,232]

and the Diamonds era still supreme

[Anonymcomenter 4,675]

2 hours ago, Glitter Boy said:

I just hope her lyricism goes back to the great days of Marina and the Diamonds.

In production terms I have no big issues (yeah some are bland, mostly in L+F) but she needs a second, third and fourth opinion on the lyrics (not the message, just the way the message is being worded out).

Preach 

 

Also, I wonder if she ever checks out this forums or even gives her fans feedback a chance… cause from L+F to ADML It has been a little bit of improvement (at least sonically) but lyrically she stays a mess 

[vrtvie 2,268]

7 hours ago, AllForYou said:

coupled with 'yeah you might as well accept it' I get she meant something along the lines of 'accept your worst days are over, and enjoy your life (instead of waiting for the worst to happen again)' but the first time I heard that line it's not a bad message at it's heart, it's just written badly

I just find it hard to believe that all those talented songwriters sat there in that session and were like 'yes this can't be misconstrued whatsoever'

yes this song is so badly written. i imagine some potential in that alternative title tho with better lyrics. most ideas in l+f are practically ill-executed, esp. to be human. not that new america is any better... unfortunately

 

@Anonymcomenter nah, she doesn't do it, she's admitted to not even reading professional reviews anymore because she cares about her mental health. quite a shame bc ancient dreams in a modern land had nice ones

[evalionisameme 13,889]

I’d love for her to be more open to fan interaction etc but I don’t even see her releasing an album anytime soon especially after twitter 

[Inferno Euphoria 6,494]

7 hours ago, AllForYou said:

'fucked with the food chain fucked with the farming too' girl what I get the sentiment but that isn't a sentence

This line always makes me think of that meme of that guy sucking corn edited to New America

[EXODUS 9,914]

13 hours ago, AllForYou said:

'fucked with the food chain fucked with the farming too' girl what I get the sentiment but that isn't a sentence

 

5 hours ago, Inferno Euphoria said:

This line always makes me think of that meme of that guy sucking corn edited to New America

 

I fucking hate that song, so cringe worthy. 

 

She needs to drop the whole political gimmick. 

[AllForYou 1,705]

what I hate about new america is ‘stars are shining for you’ is a cute lyric and I wish she based the song about that 

 

alternatively, I also think (taken out of context): ‘Everything that made you great only made you bad’ / ‘I know that you had big dreams, that you had big plans’ / ‘You can't bury the truth, It's time to pay your dues’ / ‘You've been in pain for a while. You can't hide your secrets, we can see’

 

could have been turned into a different song, maybe about some mythological figure, a well meaning hero that fucked up y’know an ancient dream in a modern land…

[vrtvie 2,268]

in alternative universe electra heart was topping all international charts and critics praised it so marina did not have a nervous breakdown, became an international alt pop star, and never gave up on her artistry. i said what i said

[AllForYou 1,705]

46 minutes ago, vrtvie said:

in alternative universe electra heart was topping all international charts and critics praised it so marina did not have a nervous breakdown, became an international alt pop star, and never gave up on her artistry. i said what i said

I honestly wonder what that would have looked like for marina, I think it would have come with a different set of troubles (like feeling she had to be another person to be appreciated, even more people wanting electra heart 2.0). it’s so annoying that electra heart is so overlooked (publicly) for it’s cultural impact, even now. 
 

also iirc part of her breakdown was that two of her family members (one being her great-grandmother, who sung on fear and loathing) died and her dad got sick, and she was stuck on tour. I can’t remember if that’s entirely accurate though. it must be so traumatic to not only be stuck halfway across the world and having to deal with that by yourself, but to have to perform almost every night and risk letting down thousands of people and risk being in debt

[Tana Mongeau 4,989]

Karma demo snippet https://dbree.org/v/3ebfca

[Veinsineon 77,101]

And the diamonds?

[evalionisameme 13,889]

54 minutes ago, Veinsineon said:

And the diamonds?

Eaten 

You used to be able to message Marina on Facebook lmao, shame it stopped

[LunaeManifestum 8,307]

6 hours ago, 132 said:

Karma demo snippet https://dbree.org/v/3ebfca

karma final still slaps all of the demos

[brandon 13,338]

karma most mediocre song ever 

 

will never understand the hype 

funky ass production