Inferno Euphoria 6,493 Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Surf Noir said: this is really random but who's the third person in your signature? i recognize everybody else lol It's Mitski! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shady 3,752 Posted January 21, 2023 I always get annoyed when someone complains about rock being dead and some smart ass telling that are still good underground bands/artists. Yeah we know, that goes for every genre, people are complaining about rock not having cultural significance anymore, not being anywhere in top 40, and frontliners on festivals being usually 20+ year old bands. 11 Quote I'm fucking crazy, but I'm free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,889 Posted January 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, shady said: I always get annoyed when someone complains about rock being dead and some smart ass telling that are still good underground bands/artists. Yeah we know, that goes for every genre, people are complaining about rock not having cultural significance anymore, not being anywhere in top 40, and frontliners on festivals being usually 20+ year old bands. There hasn’t been a big evolution in awhile aside from the emo rap movement a few years ago and even that was more of an offshoot genre mix. Somebody needs to push a innovative style+ mixed with aesthetic 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shady 3,752 Posted January 21, 2023 3 hours ago, evalionisameme said: There hasn’t been a big evolution in awhile aside from the emo rap movement a few years ago and even that was more of an offshoot genre mix. Somebody needs to push a innovative style+ mixed with aesthetic Exactly. Also the majority of active bands release some dark music in a warehouse with leather jackets and it's so obvious that it's safe music for fans only. Totally uncreative and underwhelming. I miss party songs and rockstars. Maneskin is the only band that resembles rock and rockstars in its prime although I'm not their biggest fan. 6 Quote I'm fucking crazy, but I'm free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,889 Posted January 31, 2023 Pure pop does exist-its a genre in itself-I’m sick of hearing the same tired rhetoric that pop means “popular”, no it doesn’t necessarily. The Beatles have always been included in pop because they make pop rock mostly. Rock has always been called rock. I just heard someone try to argue teenage dream is electro rock I don’t like Katy but she is clearly pure pop. Baby one more time is pure pop. Thriller is pure pop. S&m is pure pop. Call me maybe is pure pop- a guitar does not mean “rock”. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the ocean 67,601 Posted January 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, evalionisameme said: Pure pop does exist-its a genre in itself-I’m sick of hearing the same tired rhetoric that pop means “popular”, no it doesn’t necessarily. The Beatles have always been included in pop because they make pop rock mostly. Rock has always been called rock. I just heard someone try to argue teenage dream is electro rock I don’t like Katy but she is clearly pure pop. Baby one more time is pure pop. Thriller is pure pop. S&m is pure pop. Call me maybe is pure pop- a guitar does not mean “rock”. all of those songs you listed don’t have guitar in them i do agree with your overall point though 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,889 Posted January 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, paris texas said: all of those songs you listed don’t have guitar in them i do agree with your overall point though Call me maybe does actually-its good full natural instruments if you listen closely, it’s just really well done cleanly 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,889 Posted January 31, 2023 I just took another relisten-call me maybe has dozens of electric guitars and yet doesn’t sound rock at all- a perfect pop song tbh 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shady 3,752 Posted January 31, 2023 56 minutes ago, evalionisameme said: Pure pop does exist-its a genre in itself-I’m sick of hearing the same tired rhetoric that pop means “popular”, no it doesn’t necessarily. The Beatles have always been included in pop because they make pop rock mostly. Rock has always been called rock. I just heard someone try to argue teenage dream is electro rock I don’t like Katy but she is clearly pure pop. Baby one more time is pure pop. Thriller is pure pop. S&m is pure pop. Call me maybe is pure pop- a guitar does not mean “rock”. Yeah, metal was once mainstream, so does it make it pop? No. I would say that anything popular and catchy with a pop formula is, in fact, pop, regardless if it's performed by a band or electronic. Moves Like Jagger and Animals is performed by a band of rockers but the songs are pure pop. I hate how pop music became shittier cause it has become shallow to be a pop star. Ava Max, Dua Lipa and a handful of others are pure pop right now and aren't pretending to be anything else. Ava is a flea market knock off of Lady Gaga in 2008-2009 but that's another story. Also we as a society don't need that many yassifed female rappers that essentially sound all the same. We need to leave pop punk in the 2000s. It was fun, but it's time to evolve, not recycle. (Looking at you, Avril) 2 Quote I'm fucking crazy, but I'm free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,167 Posted January 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, shady said: Yeah, metal was once mainstream, so does it make it pop? No. I would say that anything popular and catchy with a pop formula is, in fact, pop, regardless if it's performed by a band or electronic. Moves Like Jagger and Animals is performed by a band of rockers but the songs are pure pop. I hate how pop music became shittier cause it has become shallow to be a pop star. Ava Max, Dua Lipa and a handful of others are pure pop right now and aren't pretending to be anything else. Ava is a flea market knock off of Lady Gaga in 2008-2009 but that's another story. Also we as a society don't need that many yassifed female rappers that essentially sound all the same. We need to leave pop punk in the 2000s. It was fun, but it's time to evolve, not recycle. (Looking at you, Avril) maroon 5 is definitely a pop group, if not always, they most certainly are now 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slang 1,532 Posted February 1, 2023 20 hours ago, evalionisameme said: Pure pop does exist-its a genre in itself-I’m sick of hearing the same tired rhetoric that pop means “popular”, no it doesn’t necessarily. The Beatles have always been included in pop because they make pop rock mostly. Rock has always been called rock. I just heard someone try to argue teenage dream is electro rock I don’t like Katy but she is clearly pure pop. Baby one more time is pure pop. Thriller is pure pop. S&m is pure pop. Call me maybe is pure pop- a guitar does not mean “rock”. The good thing about "pop" just meaning popular is that "classical" can just mean it's been around for 100+ (or whatever number) of years and people still listen to it. I.E. they're both vague terms that can be objectively defined (and real easily), although classical has some rather specific criteria, if you ask people what they mean by that. So Pete Pardo (Sea of Tranquility; youtube) just had a 1973 retrospective, where he picked his 31 favorite albums from that year (one for each day of January), and argued it was a phenomenal year musically. Maybe some albums he cited will still be played another 50 years out. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,889 Posted February 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, slang said: The good thing about "pop" just meaning popular is that "classical" can just mean it's been around for 100+ (or whatever number) of years and people still listen to it. I.E. they're both vague terms that can be objectively defined (and real easily), although classical has some rather specific criteria, if you ask people what they mean by that. So Pete Pardo (Sea of Tranquility; youtube) just had a 1973 retrospective, where he picked his 31 favorite albums from that year (one for each day of January), and argued it was a phenomenal year musically. Maybe some albums he cited will still be played another 50 years out. Yeah but that’s pop as in popular, an entirely different thing- it’s just interesting when people slate pop specifically in relation to people who make pop music but disregard it as a genre anyway? It’s odd. when people say classical-they usually mean orchestra or violin pieces with minimal to no vocals. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slang 1,532 Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, evalionisameme said: Yeah but that’s pop as in popular, an entirely different thing- it’s just interesting when people slate pop specifically in relation to people who make pop music but disregard it as a genre anyway? It’s odd. when people say classical-they usually mean orchestra or violin pieces with minimal to no vocals. It just seems like a really hard problem defining pop. Jazz called itself jazz (and was popular once, and there were a bunch of sub eras in Jazz), and Rock called itself rock (and was popular once and ditto), and Folk called itself folk (ditto., but with maybe fewer sub eras). All of these genres of music still exist, as does (what I think you mean by) pop. Or does pop seem different now than in the past? I mean one could attempt a definition of pop, that includes Britney Spears, but why not include the Andrew Sisters, or Frank Sinatra? My unpopular musical opinion is that there may be the same kind of problem with "pop" as there is with "classical" in time (there was a "joke" in the last of the Abrams-series Star Trek movies about it, and perhaps more credibly, Bob Dylan, whose done a lot of "covers" albums lately of standard pre-rock-era songs, remarked that he was "uncovering the songs" but also remarked that he didn't need to, because he considered them classics in the same sense as Brahms/Mozart; let's just assume I'm remembering the article right, as I probably can't find it). 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom 21,527 Posted February 1, 2023 This might be a really depressing outlook on the music industry but I just feel like there was a feistiness in previous decades that just isn’t present anymore, since like 2015 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanaismamom 11,544 Posted February 1, 2023 Midnights is top1 out of Taylor's albums 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,793 Posted February 2, 2023 So fucking over artists clearing out their social media platforms whenever they're about to announce a new album or something. It's corny and unnecessary. Stop. 19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,793 Posted February 22, 2023 The new Flower song by Miley is one of the most boring, most tepid commercial song I have heard in years. The fact that this song is breaking charts and streaming records is insane. 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
one time beauty queen 18,411 Posted February 23, 2023 Jeff Buckley's Hallelujah will never be what Cohen's is, ppl need to stop acting like it is. he's gotta pretty boy voice but Cohen's adds the much needed roughness & soul to the song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q i like John Lennon &his song Imagine too. some celebrities repurposed it & made it cringe during COVID but on it's own, it's cute....if u don't like beautiful piano melodies & a call for unity of the human race then ok fuck u too Phil Spector spilled with Don't Go Home With Your Hard-On's production still hate the prick tho Bob Dylan may not have a traditionally great voice, but he is a fantastic singer. fight me Banisters & Chem are her two strongest albums to date Morphine is a better 90s band than Nirvana 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luna de miel 3,212 Posted February 23, 2023 9 hours ago, West Coast said: The new Flower song by Miley is one of the most boring, most tepid commercial song I have heard in years. The fact that this song is breaking charts and streaming records is insane. someone finally said it, i 100% agree 1 Quote ─── ୨ৎ ─── ࣪.⋆ our honeymoon ⋆ ࣪. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllForYou 1,701 Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 4:39 AM, West Coast said: So fucking over artists clearing out their social media platforms whenever they're about to announce a new album or something. It's corny and unnecessary. Stop. reminds me of this tweet honestly: bands are always like “big things brewing👀” and it’s always just songs or something. that’s not big things, that’s what you did last time. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites