Honeyyoung 17,096 Posted May 14, 2021 not yall hating on Jack when he literally made the best lana album to date, he deserves respect for making NFR 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lustformoney 41,462 Posted May 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Honeyyoung said: not yall hating on Jack when he literally made the best lana album to date, he deserves respect for making NFR Honeymoon was made by Rick Nowels 35 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prettywhenimhigh 49,331 Posted May 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lustformoney said: Honeymoon was made by Rick Nowels Β thank you Just now, Be Free said: He liked this, I'm laughingΒ Β Β seriously I love this man 11 Quote Β Β Β Β Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
necessary sacrifice 8,865 Posted May 14, 2021 36 minutes ago, lanasbottom said: i just listened to Mikeβs latest album and what i really like isΒ him transitioning every song into the next one. i always dreamed of lana making a record where every song perfectly flows into the next one. imagine a whole album with freak/art deco transitions... a dream iβd like to dreamΒ βleftoverΒ Joni Mitchell attemptsβΒ teasΒ 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cacciatore 19,347 Posted May 14, 2021 39 minutes ago, Honeyyoung said: not yall hating on Jack when he literally made the best lana album to date, he deserves respect for making NFR Β he also made the worst so...Β 5 Quote into your eyesΒ Β my face remains Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleredpartydress 49,873 Posted May 14, 2021 This guy is gonna block Lanaβs number and ghost her Β Β this is why she HATES usΒ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rust Dress 40,200 Posted May 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cacciatore said: Β he also made the worst so...Β Β ..? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iiPanda 1,169 Posted May 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cacciatore said: Β he also made the worst so...Β Rick did that 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,795 Posted May 14, 2021 44 minutes ago, Honeyyoung said: not yall hating on Dan AuerbachΒ when he literally made the best Lana album to date, he deserves respect for making Ultraviolence I couldn't have said it better honestly 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cacciatore 19,347 Posted May 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, FallingCherry said: Honestly after hearing what Jack did for St. Vincentβs new album, it really makes me believe more than ever that he never was the problem, Lana was. I mean, NFR and Chemtrails are my favourite albums sheβs done, but I know itβs not the case for a lot of people here, and always putting the blame on Jack is unfair. If he can produce something like Daddyβs Home, then itβs Lanaβs vision that yβall donβt like. And I donβt really think changing producers will do much. Didnβt Mike himself say that BB was gonna be piano and strings? So basically, what you guys have been disliking on NFR and Chemtrails. If artistically, Lanaβs been going ways yβall donβt like, donβt put the blame on the producers, they just do what theyβre asked to. Rick produced HM which is seen as a masterpieceΒ by many, but he also produced LFL which is often seen as her worst album. It all depends on the vision the artist has. If Lanaβs artistic vision didnβt change much from NFR and Chemtrails,Β yβall wonβt like BB, even with Mike as a producer Β But didn't Lana herself say that she kept telling Jack to go further and harder with the sound but he kept stripping it down?Β 6 Quote into your eyesΒ Β my face remains Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,795 Posted May 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cacciatore said: Β But didn't Lana himself say that she kept telling Jack to go further and harder with the sound but he kept stripping it down?Β I believe Jack is a good producer, but the music he made with Lana, except for a few key tracks, is incredibly dreary and forgettable. Lana was comfortably lazy with him. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCooper 36,916 Posted May 14, 2021 This thread talking about Jack every two days Β Β Spoiler Anyways NFR and Chemtrails are both classy stunning masterpieces and if you don't see that sucks to be youΒ Β 17 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingCherry 7,731 Posted May 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cacciatore said: Β But didn't Lana himself say that she kept telling Jack to go further and harder with the sound but he kept stripping it down?Β Maybe because she told him not to go too hardΒ with NFR so he didnβt really know what to do when it came to the final production of ChemtrailsΒ since we were in lockdown and they couldnβt see each other IRL? ;-; 0 Quote I'll do it for the right reasons Withstanding all the time, changes and seasons ~?~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COCC 29,554 Posted May 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Cacciatore said: Β But didn't Lana himself say that she kept telling Jack to go further and harder with the sound but he kept stripping it down?Β Lana said she wanted him to go wilder. Jack said she was the one pushing for a simpler sound. So probably it comes from both.Β We know for sure that Lana is always in full control of her music, so she wanted COCC to be they way it is. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theo 318 Posted May 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, Cacciatore said: Β But didn't Lana herself say that she kept telling Jack to go further and harder with the sound but he kept stripping it down?Β I am sure that she meant to go further and harder with stripping the tracks down. I think originally they were more lush, but she wanted it to be more raw. That's what I understood from the interviews.Β 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,021 Posted May 14, 2021 Instead of rehashing the same topic of Jack and Lana, letβs focus on something we can all agree on!Β Β And thatβs the reality thatΒ if Lana did the same sort of sound every single album, we wouldnβt appreciate the records for what they are as their own.Β Yes, we would probably still like them and enjoy them, but Lana is a true artist because she can recount her experiences through so many different lenses and make it authentic.Β Β Born to Die is innovative, lyrically and sonically. Nobody has doneΒ it like her onΒ thatΒ album.Β Paradise is a thoughtful and provocative extension of that album and is a soulful piece that only Lana Del Rey could create.Β Β Ultraviolence is full of fire, itβs raw, aggressive, but still cool and calm and collected. Honeymoon takes that even a step further with its subdued elegance and candid-but-abstract lyricism.Β Lust for Life is bright-eyed and brilliant in its narrative. Norman is casual and a soundtrack for daily life, itβs a look into Lana more intimately. And Chemtrails takes that to a more existential level as a moody meditation on fame.Β Β My point is - theyβre all different. I love Jack and Lanaβs sound but I think if they did three albums together in a row, I would of courseΒ love it, but what we love about Lana is how she can step into any genre and still make it her own. Β IβmΒ sure that if Lana always made a β2.0βΒ of her records, then people would take an issue with that. Iβm also sure thatΒ Mike Dean is going to bring something fun and exciting to the table and help her reach whatever artistic vision she has this time around. Itβs definitely going to be a changeΒ and thatβs exciting! The uncertainty in that with room for something grand is exciting.Β 17 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
necessary sacrifice 8,865 Posted May 14, 2021 Okay we get it, yβallΒ hate JackΒ and will probably hate MikeΒ for no reason too eventuallyΒ 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honeyyoung 17,096 Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Lustformoney said: Honeymoon was made by Rick Nowels honeymoon it's also my fav album but favoriteΒ β best, NFR literally got 13 #1's on best album of the year lists, and should've won AOTYΒ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flowerbomb 65,594 Posted May 14, 2021 Whew the passive aggressiveness in this threadΒ 18 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Movie 51,706 Posted May 14, 2021 For me, it's not that I hate Jack at all. It's quite the opposite, actually. NFR is my all time favorite Lana album. IΒ truly love a lot of the work they've done together. I think I'm just ready for a change of pace and am looking forward to whatever Lana and Mike do together 14 Quote Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Share this post Link to post Share on other sites