Dark Angel 202,174 Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, Lindsay Lohan said: To add on to the other thing I said... "It was a very bad time for the year of the dancer Her sun was in Venus, the moon was in Cancer" + "It was a very good year for the serial killer" Are some of her most haunting lyrics ever. It kinda insinuates that you can be in the wrong place at the wrong time based on where the stars are aligning, the antithesis to what she said in Lucky Ones. The juxtaposition between Frank Sinatra's pretty much innocent song and a serial killer is so interesting to me, because you never really know someone's intentions and sometimes all you can do is blame the stars because there's no other real reason to evil behavior. It's also interesting that Lana plays around with the idea of moral corruptness & "God's Divine Plan," practically begging to be "purified" so she doesn't end up like a statistic, relating to the innocent women who had their legacy stolen and stories sold to shows like Forensic Files -- kinda giving a piece of their story back to them by namedropping them and their innocence in connection with dancing. adding onto this, she covered it was a very good year live in 2011, so i definitely think it was an intentional reference 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star Iux 5,983 Posted July 2 I remember hearing about this case years ago before it had been solved. Shannan's story was especially heartbreaking. I know Lana would have been crucified if she had released this song, but it's so nice to see her paying tribute to these women. After hearing this song I see Fingertips and Kintsugi in a much larger context, I feel like during OB she wasn't just coming to terms with death in her family, but also death that happened around her. It's nice to think that lyrics like "give you a blanket, your spirit can sit and watch tv by my side" could also apply to these women. 14 Quote ︵‿୨ ♱ I talk to Jesus / And ask him if he'll think of saving me ♱ ୧‿︵ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Embach 42,322 Posted July 2 Somehow Zodiac is connected to Get Free and Patent Leather Do-Over where Lana is not forgetting the memory and legacy of women with tragic fate who were named in those songs and poem. Like keeping their legacies. 16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco truck 32,988 Posted July 2 Just now, Embach said: Somehow Zodiac is connected to Get Free and Patent Leather Do-Over where Lana is not forgetting the memory and legacy of women with tragic fate who were named in those songs and poem. Like keeping their legacies. I immediately got Get Free vibes from Zodiac. Sucks when she keeps these career-defining songs in the vault (I Talk to Jesus is another song that comes to mind for me). 15 Quote ❀❀ ˖° ⋆.ೃ࿔ this is my idea of fun °⋆.ೃ࿔*:･ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gothphetamine 1,093 Posted July 2 I don’t know why this is hitting me so hard. I mean, obviously the subject matter is EXTREMELY dark — but something about it is just really impacting me It’s so beautifully written and the different vocal styles throughout the track make it seem so fresh and interesting. Idk if it’s just me, but at certain points it somehow reminds me sonically of Thunder?! I need to relisten to find the exact points But, wow. It’s just beautiful. The tribute to the women at the end is heartbreaking. “The prostitute pickup / and the pantyhose thriller” is sticking with me. I can’t get enough of this song As much as I would’ve loved it to have been released, I can’t imagine the moronic backlash she would have faced for “glamorising” abuse/prostitution/murder, even though nothing in this song glamourises any of that. Also, unpopular opinion but… I don’t think it would have fit on OB in the sense of the storyline. Yes it’s thematically similar in that it deals with death, legacies, abuse, general darkness etc, and it definitely would have fit sonically and lyrically, BUT.. it’s not solely autobiographical in the way that the rest of the album is, and I’m not sure how it would have fit into the overarching ‘storyline’. But I obviously wish it had been included, because it’s amazing. Not at the expense of Candy Necklace though. But they’d have been a nice A & B side release Wow that was unnecessarily long.. but I just love Zodiac. (Which is a much better name than Purify imo, it’s less in your face and self explanatory) And I agree with everyone else about Lana most likely feeling some sort of personal connection. So many people clowned on her for the response to the Candy Necklace video backlash, when she said she could’ve ended up in a similar position, but anyone smart knows what she meant. Considering the GK was active whilst she was living in nyc, a young woman in a somewhat transient and chaotic/unstable lifestyle.. I get what she means. 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vivienne 85 Posted July 3 7 hours ago, Embach said: Somehow Zodiac is connected to Get Free and Patent Leather Do-Over where Lana is not forgetting the memory and legacy of women with tragic fate who were named in those songs and poem. Like keeping their legacies. It's part of Lust for Life's dead witchy, dark, ethereal legacy that I desperately want revived 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyBlueBaby 3,332 Posted July 3 On 7/1/2024 at 2:57 PM, Elle said: It was a very bad time for the year of the dancer Her sun was in Venus, the moon was in cancer & all of the girls who dance late (?) were dying It was a very good year for the serial killer The prostitute pickup and pantyhose thriller & all of the girls who were found on the (?) of Long Island Purify me Purify me Purify me Purify me It was a very bad time for the year of the dancer Her sun was in Venus, the moon was in cancer & all of the girls who dance late (?) were dying It was a very good year for the serial killer The prostitute pickup and pantyhose thriller & all of the girls who were found on the (?) of Long Island Purify me Purify me Purify me Purify me Walk straight Keep your head up Walk straight Keep your head up Walk straight Keep your head up Walk straight Keep your head up Purify me, yeah Purify me, yeah Ohh Yeah, yeah Walk straight Keep your head up Shannon Gilbert I'm walking with you Megan Waterman We won't forget you Amber Costello Walk straight Keep your head up Definitely need some help with this one due to the quality! Leave any input below! Xx WAIT.....This song is about the Long Island Killer. I didn't even know what she was saying at the end. Wow no wonder she scrapped this but I rly wish she didn't. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadly Nightshade 12,849 Posted July 3 On 7/2/2024 at 1:43 AM, Bonita said: This is definitely one of her most interesting songs lyrically and I can see why it was initially included on Ocean but Candy Necklace does help with the narrative. so true !! it totally makes sense taking into consideration the meaning behind CN and OB in general A really hunting song .. it makes me emotional 3 Quote 𝚈𝚘𝚞 𝚒𝚖𝚙𝚎𝚛𝚜𝚘𝚗𝚊𝚝𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚜𝚎𝚊𝚜𝚘𝚗𝚜 𝚈𝚘𝚞𝚛 𝚐𝚘𝚕𝚍 𝚊𝚞𝚝𝚞𝚖𝚗𝚊𝚕 𝚑𝚊𝚣𝚎 𝙱𝚞𝚝 𝚜𝚘𝚖𝚎𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚍𝚒𝚎𝚜 𝚒𝚗𝚜𝚒𝚍𝚎 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚆𝚑𝚎𝚗 𝚠𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚜 𝚒𝚝𝚜 𝚏𝚊𝚌𝚎 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gothphetamine 1,093 Posted July 3 Anyone else not been able to stop thinking about this since it was released… it’s just so haunting Edit- leaked whoops. A girl can dream… 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantis 379 Posted July 8 IMAGINE a world where this song is officially released on ocean blvd and it has this perfect (imo) track list: 1. the grants 2. did u know that there’s a tunnel under ocean blvd 3. a&w 4. zodiac 5. candy necklace (feat jon batiste) 6. jon batiste interlude 7. fingertips 8. kintsugi 9. paris, texas (feat syml) 10. three white butterflies (feat riopy)* 11. let the light in (feat father john misty) 12. sweet 13. fishtail 14. peppers (feat tommy genesis) 15. taco truck *this is my personal take as i find the original title a bit too much. plus i’m not a fan of margaret and i find it quite out of place. and idk why but it just makes more sense to me to listen to those other tracks in this order 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eugene 26,669 Posted August 19 On 7/1/2024 at 5:57 PM, Elle said: It was a very good year for the serial killer The prostitute pickup and pantyhose thriller & all of the girls who were found on the (?) of Long Island 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Stargirl Pinky 71,658 Posted August 19 On 7/2/2024 at 1:20 PM, Lindsay Lohan said: To add on to the other thing I said... "It was a very bad time for the year of the dancer Her sun was in Venus, the moon was in Cancer" + "It was a very good year for the serial killer" Are some of her most haunting lyrics ever. It kinda insinuates that you can be in the wrong place at the wrong time based on where the stars are aligning, the antithesis to what she said in Lucky Ones. The juxtaposition between Frank Sinatra's pretty much innocent song and a serial killer is so interesting to me, because you never really know someone's intentions and sometimes all you can do is blame the stars because there's no other real reason to evil behavior. It's also interesting that Lana plays around with the idea of moral corruptness & "God's Divine Plan," practically begging to be "purified" so she doesn't end up like a statistic, relating to the innocent women who had their legacy stolen and stories sold to shows like Forensic Files -- kinda giving a piece of their story back to them by namedropping them and their innocence in connection with dancing. Definitely not trying to butter you up Miss Lindsay but this is one of the most insightful things I’ve read on this forum 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
venice biotch 7,094 Posted August 19 still cant get through that this masterpiece wasnt realesed 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultrabanisters 44,998 Posted August 19 even as a lq leak it is still incredible zodiac truthers we rose and conquered 11 Quote resident sweeter 24/7/17 - 9/7/23 - 10/7/23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Candy Necklace 7,714 Posted August 19 Should we start begging for the hq leak 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeminiLanaFan 49,030 Posted August 19 19 minutes ago, Candy Necklace said: Should we start begging for the hq leak 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EstelsDream 580 Posted August 19 38 minutes ago, Candy Necklace said: Should we start begging for the hq leak We need it. ITS SUCH A PIECE OF ART AND I THINK IT WOULD GET POPULAR 2 Quote Taste's like 4th of julyy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wtauf 527 Posted August 19 i know that there will be a day when we get this masterpiece in hq Spoiler We won't forget you Zodiac 3 Quote nobody warns you before the fall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plastiscguy 63,437 Posted August 19 I really don't get why people won't give us the HQ... we already have the full song! 9 Quote My rose garden dreams set on fire by fiends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EstelsDream 580 Posted August 19 Just now, plastiscguy said: I really don't get why people won't give us the HQ... we already have the full song! LIKEits just giving selfish ass bitch if u gate keep a mp3 4 Quote Taste's like 4th of julyy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
