2024 US Presidential Election - Kamala Harris/Tim Walz vs. Donald Trump/JD Vance

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30 minutes ago, baddisease said:

Jill Stein was asked by European Green Parties to withdraw from the elections and to back Kamala. Jill has refused.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/european-greens-ask-jill-stein-to-stand-down-and-endorse-kamala-harris

Jill Stein would be very selfish if she ignored this call and did not support Kamala Harris.

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5 hours ago, Mer said:

I literally do not take the Green Party seriously enough to read more than two words of all that…

I really love their policies and beliefs but the candidates they pick always suck

[ultrabanisters 44,635]

27 minutes ago, baddisease said:

 

I understand her reasoning for not dropping out - if she gets at least 5% of the vote: she gets nationwide ballot access for the GP, federal election funding for the GP, and I think she'd get the GP access to the next election cycle's debate. I want her to be able to get that 5% AND for Trump to lose. If enough people vote, it's possible for both to happen. But...idk the level of reality of that.

so self serving reasons and an implied 5% of extra votes for turnump 😍😍😍 I❤️POLITICS

[baddisease 17,633]

6 minutes ago, ultrabanisters said:

so self serving reasons and an implied 5% of extra votes for turnump 😍😍😍 I❤️POLITICS

 

it's not really self-serving, if you look at the bigger picture:

 

the duopoly of the Republicans and Democrats is tearing the United States apart. If, by some miracle, the Greens won 5%+ of the vote and, again by some miracle, they were able to push Ranked Choice Voting through, we'd have a multiparty democracy rather than what we have now and that would be a net positive.

[ultrabanisters 44,635]

1 hour ago, baddisease said:

 

it's not really self-serving, if you look at the bigger picture:

 

the duopoly of the Republicans and Democrats is tearing the United States apart. If, by some miracle, the Greens won 5%+ of the vote and, again by some miracle, they were able to push Ranked Choice Voting through, we'd have a multiparty democracy rather than what we have now and that would be a net positive.

i agree with you that two party systems arent good in the slightest, but an election like this is not the time to begin your fight for a multi party system. any vote against kamala this time is for trump

[Mer 61,199]

Can we stop talking about the obvious fucking grift that is the “Green” party. The only green thing about them is all the money they personally make off of being spoiler candidates, backed by Republican PACs (yes GOP Donors are literally paying for Stein’s advertisements). 

[rosemead ramada 6,557]

1 hour ago, baddisease said:

it's not really self-serving, if you look at the bigger picture:

the duopoly of the Republicans and Democrats is tearing the United States apart. If, by some miracle, the Greens won 5%+ of the vote and, again by some miracle, they were able to push Ranked Choice Voting through, we'd have a multiparty democracy rather than what we have now and that would be a net positive.

Now is not the time to be casting a vote that in any way helps Trump. If this were the era of 2012 Republicans, sure, fine, go ahead. But not now. This election is not the time to try and send a message to the Democratic Party that you're not happy with them by voting third party. There is WAY too much at risk.

Biden and the Democrats' handling of the Israel-Palestine conflict truly repulses me. But Trump becoming President is not only what Netanyahu wants, it's what Israel wants. Why would anyone want to help Netanyahu get what he wants? A vote for a third party is an indirect vote for Trump, period. Not voting is a vote for Trump, period. And a vote for Trump is a vote for even more theft of Palestinian land.

Every time I've become so defeated at the state of the world to the point I've felt like giving up and not voting at all, I remember that not voting for Harris would mean Israel gets a little closer to what they want, and that's certainly not what I want. The Democrats are wrong on Palestine, but indirectly helping Trump win means abandoning and causing harm to way too many people. You'd be abandoning our European allies, the Ukrainian people, LGBT people all over the country, women all over the country. You'd be abandoning rights you don't even know you've lost yet because we haven't even see how far the Supreme Court will go in the future with even more Trump appointees.

And if you live in a safe state, I don't care. We need that total popular vote, even though it doesn't matter electorally, to be the loudest rejection of Trump imaginable.

[That Venice Bitch 27,945]

The Des Moines Register - an A-rated pollster - just dropped an 11th hour poll showing Harris leading Trump in Iowa 47% - 44% ……. 

[Mer 61,199]

40 minutes ago, That Venice Bitch said:

The Des Moines Register - an A-rated pollster - just dropped an 11th hour poll showing Harris leading Trump in Iowa 47% - 44% ……. 

For context, Oct. 31st 2020, they predicted Trump would win Iowa by 7 points. Trump did, in fact, win by 8 points. They were the only poll to predict the outcome within 2 points.

[Mer 61,199]

If you think about it, the only times Iowa has gone blue in the last 20 years is when a Black Democrat has been one of the nominees. 

[American Whore 51,084]

43 minutes ago, Mer said:

For context, Oct. 31st 2020, they predicted Trump would win Iowa by 7 points. Trump did, in fact, win by 8 points. They were the only poll to predict the outcome within 2 points.

 

Do we have any hopes that this is NC is voting similar? For some reason, tiktok has this idea that they're going blue because of having a nazi running for governor I believe or something (i didnt do much research tbh) and they're thinking it could flip. idk im not gonna hold a torch to that flame but im curious what we think she might actually take that he thinks he has in the bag

[Candy Necklace 7,271]

I’m happy to hear that about Iowa! I was just there a few weeks ago and there was a lot less Trump signs compared to 2016 & 2020. I know it’s purely anecdotal but I was still shocked 

 

[Waimea Bay 8,319]

They Put Kamala on SNL

[Mer 61,199]

4 hours ago, American Whore said:

 

Do we have any hopes that this is NC is voting similar? For some reason, tiktok has this idea that they're going blue because of having a nazi running for governor I believe or something (i didnt do much research tbh) and they're thinking it could flip. idk im not gonna hold a torch to that flame but im curious what we think she might actually take that he thinks he has in the bag

I would say it’s a reason to hope Harris over performs her polling in the neighbouring states of WI and MI. Possibly PA, although some PA counties are “Northeastern” and not “Midwestern.” 
 

It’s also worth noting that Iowa has a large population of farmers, a demographic that has historically been screwed over by tariffs and probably don’t want to see more of it. 
 

North Carolina, in my opinion, would have a completely different electoral makeup than Iowa. There’s a very real chance, based on this poll, that Kamala over performs in the Rust Belt and still potentially underperforms in the Sun Belt (and she could still lose, especially if an otherwise “safe seeming” Sunbelt State like New Mexico suddenly flips). 

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7 hours ago, That Venice Bitch said:

The Des Moines Register - an A-rated pollster - just dropped an 11th hour poll showing Harris leading Trump in Iowa 47% - 44% ……. 

This is so good. I pray to god Kamala wins. 
 

im not American but my whole page is stuff about the election and I know it’s very close, but I hope that Kamala can win Pennsylvania and hopefully win the election. Because if trump wins…. It’s not going to be good.

[The Stargirl Pinky 71,590]

Officially cast my vote 💙 I’m so ready for this to be over  

[Candy Necklace 7,271]

I’m interested to see how Indiana, Missouri, and Kansas end up. I’m not expecting them to flip blue but Trump probably won’t keep the same gaps there he had in the last 2 elections 

[X8vinylScratchX 4,561]

Keep in mind, if Trump loses he will face prison time for all his charges. A big reason (or one of the biggest) as to why he’s running at all is just to avoid prison time. If he loses i imagine he may flee the country and live in Russia as a fugitive like Edward Snowden or something like that, which is wild to think about 

[Mer 61,199]

Trumps odds on Polymarket are crashing. This is our first “we’re so back”, before an inevitable “it’s so over” (and repeat) of the next 3 days. 

[Dark Angel 200,982]

it's not even the day before election day and yet i'm already nervous  just ready for this all to be over