Doll Harlow 12,367 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 12:44 AM, Surf Noir said: "honeymoon" is one of her best tracks & it's so underrated It's one of the best songs she ever made and a lot of people aren't ready for that conversation. 16 Quote You call me lavender, you call me sunshine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,021 Posted November 28, 2021 I think Chemtrails is my personal favourite record of hers in a different way, in a way that’s not necessarily synonymous with what I think her best record is (because she does have a considerable number of records that you could argue are her magnum opus)—I think Chemtrails is the record that best represents who I am, so I think I resonate with it so closely. The lyrics to songs like White Dress and Chemtrails Over the Country Club eerily echo parts of my experiences that I consider to be formative and beautiful, so it’s really a record I feel in my bones lol. And experiencing its release with everyone here and during the height of the pandemic (where I am, at least) was really fun! It offered a reprieve from everything that was going on at the time. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluechemtrails 26,746 Posted November 29, 2021 Almost all albums (in general) have the wrong song order. The less popular songs should be played first and the most popular at the end. That way you have a progression and know, even if you don't like a song, that there could be better ones. Otherwise, you listen to the most popular songs first, and the motivation to finish listening to the album decreases with each successive song. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Ink 5,906 Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) On 11/28/2021 at 3:47 AM, Super Movie said: Songs that are not nearly as bad as most people make them out to be: Blue Velvet Guns & Roses Coachella and GBA Lucky Ones The Next Best American Record Agree with everything (especially my beloved Guns and Roses), except Coachella. The dramatic lyrics and that instrumental are just not that good to me. Do people dislike TNBAR though?? I thought that was a favorite in the fandom? Edited November 29, 2021 by BlueINK 3 Quote Honey, you make me feel I'm invincible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,795 Posted November 29, 2021 'Chemtrails' should've gotten the white vinyl and 'Blue Banisters' baby blue or something. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Movie 51,681 Posted November 29, 2021 32 minutes ago, BlueINK said: Agree with everything (especially my beloved Guns and Roses), except Coachella. The dramatic lyrics and that instrumental are just not that good to me. Do people dislike TNBAR though?? I thought that was a favorite in the fandom? People like the demo, but most people dislike the version that's on NFR because of the lyric changes and slight changes in production 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PatentLeatherDoOver 25,782 Posted November 29, 2021 I wish Lana would do another NFR-esque cover in the future…or at least something a little avant-garde. I know some people hate it, but I found that it was creative and really solidified the record as this apocalyptic invitation in the day-to-day life of LDR. 12 Quote “…and this is all I looked for all my life – to be able to give of my love, my spontaneous joy, unreservedly, with no fear of…misuse, betrayal.” Sylvia Plath Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjatib 5,172 Posted November 29, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 7:44 AM, Surf Noir said: "honeymoon" is one of her best tracks & it's so underrated That whole album. Just unbeatable, and thats on that. 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shady 3,752 Posted November 29, 2021 4 hours ago, BlueINK said: Agree with everything (especially my beloved Guns and Roses), except Coachella. The dramatic lyrics and that instrumental are just not that good to me. Do people dislike TNBAR though?? I thought that was a favorite in the fandom? Lmao and here I am loving Coachella and knowing that the lyrics and the melody are terrible. I was literally rolling my eyes at the chorus. It's probably because it reminds me of my filedtrip in the nature and good time. Meanwhile I hate every single song I had listened during quarantine in spring 2020 no matter how good they were because it reminded me of that time. Am I the only one doing that? 1 Quote I'm fucking crazy, but I'm free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alison by Slowdive 26,146 Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/23/2021 at 9:31 AM, TrashMagiq said: "what if somebody asked Picasso not to be sad" is one of her worst lyrics like what the fuck is that ew Right idk how to express this well and I feel like I need to be careful - it’s confusing bc there are some incredible lyrics on bb but then there are a few lyrics that seem like half-thoughts or like they were written very quickly? I do love the kind of improv one-take style in songs like pretty when you cry and white dress but I prefer when it’s obvious and I def don’t really like it when it’s the writing rather than the song itself that seems one-take? I just really like when she “tries” and her lyrics are so precise and intentional and well-expressed, like text book’s (and the vast majority of her work, including that on bb!) 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluechemtrails 26,746 Posted December 1, 2021 In her last songs she wanted to tell her own story. I like that because I'm very interested in it, but for others it could be misunderstood as selfish because it seems like she finds her life more important than others'. It's also harder to identify with the songs because you have to put yourself specifically into her life story. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Movie 51,681 Posted December 1, 2021 The Next Best American Record has her best bridge 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keps2013 4,772 Posted December 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Super Movie said: The Next Best American Record has her best bridge the glass breaking 7 Quote "One gun on the table. Headshot if you're able..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Ink 5,906 Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 6:10 PM, Super Movie said: People like the demo, but most people dislike the version that's on NFR because of the lyric changes and slight changes in production Oh I completely agree with that! The demo is top tier and was ruined for NFR 3 Quote Honey, you make me feel I'm invincible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doll Harlow 12,367 Posted December 2, 2021 Carmen is a beautiful and interesting song and I don't get why it's so many people's least favorite from BTD. 20 Quote You call me lavender, you call me sunshine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,298 Posted December 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Doll Harlow said: Carmen is a beautiful and interesting song and I don't get why it's so many people's least favorite from BTD. adding to this, i don't know why there's hate for dark paradise, i don't consider it filler, it's about somebody who she loved who died, it's a strong subject matter which definitely adds depth to the album itself & the other tracks 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drugmunny 8,880 Posted December 2, 2021 Off to the Races very well might be the best song in her entire disc. the vocal changes. the lyrics. the fucking BRIDGE. the storytelling. peak talent. 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doll Harlow 12,367 Posted December 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Surf Noir said: adding to this, i don't know why there's hate for dark paradise, i don't consider it filler, it's about somebody who she loved who died, it's a strong subject matter which definitely adds depth to the album itself & the other tracks I used to dislike Dark Paradise but lately it has been hitting right for me... no idea why. I'm glad that it has grown on me because I always felt left out when people said it was a great song. 2 Quote You call me lavender, you call me sunshine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanadeIrey 62,021 Posted December 2, 2021 I’ve said it a million times, but I love Chemtrails so much, it’s perhaps my favourite record of hers for so many different reasons, and I just can’t believe how undervalued it is among fans. It’s a gem in her discography, it truly is so classic and timeless. It’s the Midwestern leg of the NFR tour suspended in time, which really was a beautiful mini-era to witness as a fan in real time. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Movie 51,681 Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Surf Noir said: adding to this, i don't know why there's hate for dark paradise, i don't consider it filler, it's about somebody who she loved who died, it's a strong subject matter which definitely adds depth to the album itself & the other tracks No because I actually feel so bad about not liking DP because I want to so bad. Lyrically, it's right up my alley. But something about the production just makes it not click for me and I don't even know why (although that intro?? amazing). I have actually been warming up to the first demo lately though. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites