Terrence Loves Me 72,692 Posted April 24, 2023 this is why i dont pay any attention to her until there's a pre order, she's non existent to me until she drops a single, i cant keep up with her shenanigans 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
details 17,164 Posted April 24, 2023 i really think she's not into music anymore… quitting live shows and doing dj sets only was the first sign for me 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicMess 3,455 Posted April 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Ceremonials said: only nazi anthems about la producers please I don’t wanna fucking hear her use the term “overton window” like she didn’t let one of the biggest fucking pushers of that window nut in her because he wooed her over Twitter with some pseudo-intellectual physics X philosophy bullshit. Her [insert-ism here] was shown to be performative and I will not be gaslit by someone who’s proven themselves able to be dickmatized and Stockholm syndrome’d to the billionaire class. 9 Quote 🎶 Art decorates space, but music decorates time 🎶 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllForYou 1,701 Posted April 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, kuntsugi said: i really think she's not into music anymore… quitting live shows and doing dj sets only was the first sign for me the lack of live performances doesn't surprise me, she's never really liked it and she's spoken about an unhinged stalker who threatened to murder her had turned up at one of her shows. I'm sure that's probably worse now she's associated with the muskrat & touring won't ever be easy with young children. I think she does like music (she’s making lots, just not releasing it) but she just tries too do so much that is gets overwhelming with her ADHD, she called darq souls an engineering nightmare (that's why it wasn't released) so it wouldn't surprise me if that happens often. I think because her MO is to do it all herself (with the exception of mastering/engineering and some other bits I think) she's dug herself a hole she can't get out of. violence was a bop and she had help with that so if she wants to not do everything herself I'm fine with that I realised I'm probably giving her more credit than she deserves though 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlittle11 12,214 Posted April 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, AllForYou said: the lack of live performances doesn't surprise me, she's never really liked it and she's spoken about an unhinged stalker who threatened to murder her had turned up at one of her shows. I'm sure that's probably worse now she's associated with the muskrat & touring won't ever be easy with young children. I think she does like music (she’s making lots, just not releasing it) but she just tries too do so much that is gets overwhelming with her ADHD, she called darq souls an engineering nightmare (that's why it wasn't released) so it wouldn't surprise me if that happens often. I think because her MO is to do it all herself (with the exception of mastering/engineering and some other bits I think) she's dug herself a hole she can't get out of. violence was a bop and she had help with that so if she wants to not do everything herself I'm fine with that I realised I'm probably giving her more credit than she deserves though what bothers me about that “engineering nightmare” line is that so many people are out here making music thats comparable to hers and arent having “engineering nightmares”… some i would argue are even more complex. im not going to pretend i understand why she does what she does but its annoying as a fan. there are probably so many incredible projects from her that we’ll never hear or get to experience in their entirety bc shes quirky. also i have horrible adhd n still do my job everyday 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coney Island King 26,002 Posted April 24, 2023 So the fans were right, an AI will be doing her music soon enough. She should just release everything she has completed over the last 3 years and then retire. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furor Poeticus 16,352 Posted April 24, 2023 Maybe AI will generate finished versions of David and Saturn Princess 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon Batiste Interlude 520 Posted April 26, 2023 she's lost me with this "make music using my voice" btw all the songs people are making thus far don't even sound like it's Grimes vocals it just sounds like really really bad hyperpop/bad vocals that someone's pitching and playing w the formant on I have NO interest in listening to fake Grimes music ? 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllForYou 1,701 Posted April 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jon Batiste Interlude said: she's lost me with this "make music using my voice" btw all the songs people are making thus far don't even sound like it's Grimes vocals it just sounds like really really bad hyperpop/bad vocals that someone's pitching and playing w the formant on I have NO interest in listening to fake Grimes music ? agree, also I haven’t looked into it cause I don’t want to log into a random site without any preview but this is just for vocals right? grimes’s production is what I’m interested in, and how she uses her voice just like another instrument. (regardless of her lisp) some of her songs are indecipherable because she doesn’t annunciate or buries her vocals in the mix… but they’re bops this is really embarrassing to admit but until I looked it up I didn’t realise she started singing in french in art angels I thought she was just being grimes 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicMess 3,455 Posted April 26, 2023 Love the announcement she's split from Columbia. Love that Reddit is just straight up dragging and dumping the scalding tea on all the Spoiler nazi/right wing associations and elbow bumping she's done over the years. Just what I needed to really take the W in Wednesday and put it in 'WTF' 4 Quote 🎶 Art decorates space, but music decorates time 🎶 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllForYou 1,701 Posted April 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, AtomicMess said: Love the announcement she's split from Columbia. Love that Reddit is just straight up dragging and dumping the scalding tea on all the Reveal hidden contents nazi/right wing associations and elbow bumping she's done over the years. Just what I needed to really take the W in Wednesday and put it in 'WTF' urgh just read though the Reddit, I didn’t realise she’d gotten so bad (I don’t follow her cause she’s so messy)… anyone got any grimes adjacent musicians that don’t have brain rot? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicMess 3,455 Posted April 26, 2023 1 hour ago, AllForYou said: urgh just read though the Reddit, I didn’t realise she’d gotten so bad Yeah. I can't articulate anything I'm about to say quite right, so this is going to come out rough and I apologize to all, but I think she's just countercultural. Like super countercultural to a fault. This is from a very U.S-centric mindset, mind you all, but to me she's one of those "quirky" people who seems to have a need for a certain kind of energy/mindset/vibe in her life, and in my worldview horseshoe theory is right sometimes in terms of 'energy' that people carry and seek out - the most feverish pro-socialist tankies and the most feral bloodthirsty MAGA chuds, at the end of it - they're just looking for radical change that tears down the current establishment because they're mad at it for some reason (justified or not), they both have very binary views on how the world works and should work (very quick to "other" people/groups), and they both tend to collect people who sit on the fringes of society for one reason or another ("quirky" personalities who need to be the only one of their "kind" in a room, people with varying degrees of mental illness, people who aren't conventionally attractive or seen as valued by "the mainstream", etc. etc) Looking at where she started, and looking at where she's at now - it just feels like she's one of those "quirky outsiders" looking to belong to some kind of a movement or group, regardless of the ideals, where her voice and her opinions place her in a spot to be the "unique" one in the room. Like, she's always been about some sci-fi, aliens, physics, philosophy - stuff that's rooted in hard sciences or yet-to-be-proven scientific concepts and theories, but has been ran through the Human Imagination Complex (tm) to the nth degree because "art". She shacked up with Muskrat, and he is someone who has the wild out there ideas for humanity and what we are and where we could be. That matches up with all of her shit. And through Musk, she got exposed to him, and his cohorts, and that whole groups' edgy, quirky, "out there", counter-to-how-we-live-life-now ideals (because, as disgusting as they are, they do fit the bill for "challenge the norm"), and has taken them on. At some level, their shit matches this "breaking society" and "questioning reality" vibe she's on. Like, sure, she could be "break society" in terms of breaking monopolistic and oligarchical and patriarchal mindsets that would lead to equality, healthcare, education - or she could "break society" in terms of "genetically engineering the perfect human and starting a colony of superior beings on mars" (aka eugenics and humans thinking that because something exists, it's just theirs for the taking) In my head, if you were someone who was like, "omg lets take humanity to the farthest we can", somewhere in the discourse, you could either go "lets all lift humanity up, together, and move forward, together, to see how far we can all get as a society and culture" (the lefty approach), or you could get "engineer the best human ever" (aka the weird, eugenicist, probably ableist? approach) "and send them out into space because fuck yeah". Since she's all sci-fi and about some of that technofuritistic shit, it's kind of obvious where the brain is going to be on that take, and since it's a concept and a goal that is over and above SO many other people's heads and nowhere in the common sphere of what people are going through or doing in their daily lives, it gives her a boost in being a "different thinker" and places her in that "edgy quirky I'm-the-only-one-in-the-room-thinking-like-this-ooh-la-la" headspace. Not *excusing* any if it at all, btw, just trying to flesh out the "why tf she do it like that" aspects of her strange little brain. Does any of that make a single shred of sense or does it sound like I smoke crack? 9 Quote 🎶 Art decorates space, but music decorates time 🎶 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veinsineon 76,794 Posted April 26, 2023 It was really bad for her 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
domandapiano 12,099 Posted April 26, 2023 Wow after reading and realizing all the shit she’s associated with these past couple years I’d say we don’t even have Art Angels anymore, they belong in the trash. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
White Dress 6,901 Posted April 26, 2023 50 minutes ago, AtomicMess said: Yeah. I can't articulate anything I'm about to say quite right, so this is going to come out rough and I apologize to all, but I think she's just countercultural. Like super countercultural to a fault. This is from a very U.S-centric mindset, mind you all, but to me she's one of those "quirky" people who seems to have a need for a certain kind of energy/mindset/vibe in her life, and in my worldview horseshoe theory is right sometimes in terms of 'energy' that people carry and seek out - the most feverish pro-socialist tankies and the most feral bloodthirsty MAGA chuds, at the end of it - they're just looking for radical change that tears down the current establishment because they're mad at it for some reason (justified or not), they both have very binary views on how the world works and should work (very quick to "other" people/groups), and they both tend to collect people who sit on the fringes of society for one reason or another ("quirky" personalities who need to be the only one of their "kind" in a room, people with varying degrees of mental illness, people who aren't conventionally attractive or seen as valued by "the mainstream", etc. etc) Looking at where she started, and looking at where she's at now - it just feels like she's one of those "quirky outsiders" looking to belong to some kind of a movement or group, regardless of the ideals, where her voice and her opinions place her in a spot to be the "unique" one in the room. Like, she's always been about some sci-fi, aliens, physics, philosophy - stuff that's rooted in hard sciences or yet-to-be-proven scientific concepts and theories, but has been ran through the Human Imagination Complex (tm) to the nth degree because "art". She shacked up with Muskrat, and he is someone who has the wild out there ideas for humanity and what we are and where we could be. That matches up with all of her shit. And through Musk, she got exposed to him, and his cohorts, and that whole groups' edgy, quirky, "out there", counter-to-how-we-live-life-now ideals (because, as disgusting as they are, they do fit the bill for "challenge the norm"), and has taken them on. At some level, their shit matches this "breaking society" and "questioning reality" vibe she's on. Like, sure, she could be "break society" in terms of breaking monopolistic and oligarchical and patriarchal mindsets that would lead to equality, healthcare, education - or she could "break society" in terms of "genetically engineering the perfect human and starting a colony of superior beings on mars" (aka eugenics and humans thinking that because something exists, it's just theirs for the taking) In my head, if you were someone who was like, "omg lets take humanity to the farthest we can", somewhere in the discourse, you could either go "lets all lift humanity up, together, and move forward, together, to see how far we can all get as a society and culture" (the lefty approach), or you could get "engineer the best human ever" (aka the weird, eugenicist, probably ableist? approach) "and send them out into space because fuck yeah". Since she's all sci-fi and about some of that technofuritistic shit, it's kind of obvious where the brain is going to be on that take, and since it's a concept and a goal that is over and above SO many other people's heads and nowhere in the common sphere of what people are going through or doing in their daily lives, it gives her a boost in being a "different thinker" and places her in that "edgy quirky I'm-the-only-one-in-the-room-thinking-like-this-ooh-la-la" headspace. Not *excusing* any if it at all, btw, just trying to flesh out the "why tf she do it like that" aspects of her strange little brain. Does any of that make a single shred of sense or does it sound like I smoke crack? I think to put it simply, she looks at life like a game and she is the only player. Like truly, I rarely feel she is ever thinking about other people. Intentions? Doesn’t matter because there ARE none. She is consumed with herself. I’m not even sure id call it selfish because I am pretty sure she is neurodivergent. But it’s very easy to tell that she truly lives in her own fantasy land 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaeManifestum 8,305 Posted April 26, 2023 3 hours ago, AllForYou said: this is really embarrassing to admit but until I looked it up I didn’t realise she started singing in french in art angels I thought she was just being grimes where is she singing in french in Artangels? Lol 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furor Poeticus 16,352 Posted April 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, LunaeManifestum said: where is she singing in french in Artangels? Lol Je comprends, je l'ai dit, c'est la vie Oh Montréal, I pull apart, I don't mind 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllForYou 1,701 Posted April 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, LunaeManifestum said: where is she singing in french in Artangels? Lol the first line of the chorus, then she goes back to singing in english 20 minutes ago, White Dress said: I think to put it simply, she looks at life like a game and she is the only player. Like truly, I rarely feel she is ever thinking about other people. Intentions? Doesn’t matter because there ARE none. She is consumed with herself. I’m not even sure id call it selfish because I am pretty sure she is neurodivergent. But it’s very easy to tell that she truly lives in her own fantasy land she recently ‘revealed’ she has ADHD and tbh I’ve always suspected she’s autistic too, (I’m both so I’m not pulling it out of my ass), elon is autistic too so that’s probably why they get along so well. I don’t want to infantilise her cause she’s spoken on how she hates it (and I hate it when people equate neurodivergence = immaturity) but she’s always struck me as really naive & trusting. I fear she’s got a sunk cost fallacy with elon, that man is got getting off this earth anytime soon, he’s a fraud, a cheat, and a liar. but as much as I don’t want to blame her for what Elon does, I don’t want to let her off the hook as being under ‘elon’s spell’ cause she’s a grown woman with 2 kids 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalvaWHORE 34,006 Posted April 26, 2023 maybe what Azealia Banks said abt her years ago was true 8 Quote @WHORE OF TROPICO ⇨ @SALVAWHORE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllForYou 1,701 Posted April 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, SalvaWHORE said: maybe what Azealia Banks said abt her years ago was true she tweeted something like ‘what’s wrong with smelling like nickels anyway’ and I just 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites