Kim Gordon of Sonic Youth criticizes Lana in memoir

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“She doesn’t even know what feminism is”

 

"Girl in a Band" is a book-memoir written by Kim Gordon. She mentions Lana in one part of it:

 

Today we have someone like Lana Del Rey, who doesn’t even know what feminism is, who believes women can do whatever they want, which, in her world, tilts toward self-destruction, whether it’s sleeping with gross old men or getting gang-raped by bikers. Equal pay and equal rights would be nice. Naturally, it’s just a persona. If she really truly believes it’s beautiful when young musicians go out on a hot flame of drugs and depression, why doesn’t she just off herself?

 

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Waiting for the meltdowns 

[Jack 2,919]

“She doesn’t even know what feminism is” "Girl in a Band" is a book-memoir written by Kim Gordon. She mentions Lana in one part of it: source

The amount of problematicness from this absolute mess can we get some honeymoon deets Lana?

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lmao bitch got scalped 

 

ok but really i find this surprising coming from kim gordon -- acclaimed musician and visual artist 

 

but not so much from kim gordon -- human woman approaching death, somewhat threatened by the vision, intellect (and beauty) of the young pop starlet (currently bleeding into the art-world with increasing credibility)

 

i mean its one thing to disparage another artist due to creative differences, but the part about "offing herself" really pushes this into juvenile cunt territory. not to say that that's entirely a bad thing (considering lana can be both juvenile and cunty herself) ... but honestly, i sort of feel like this is a matter of ~ "like disliking like" 

[Constantine 4,074]

What the actual fuck at the last part.

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The amount of problematicness from this absolute nobody

Absolute nobody? Maybe to someone who's only been around 5 minutes. She was only one of biggest influences on one of Lana's biggest idols (Kurt Cobain), not to mention alternative rock generally.

[Jack 2,919]

Absolute nobody? Maybe to someone who's only been around 5 minutes. She was only one of biggest influences on one of Lana's biggest idols (Kurt Cobain), not to mention alternative rock generally.

ok thanks for the history lesson what is your point, should Lana kill herself?

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Not an absolute nobody but still a generally trash inflammation of something possibly insightful and true that she could have expressed better. Disappointed as a former ~real music listener~ of Sonic Youth when I was 15 lol

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How she gonna publish a book telling someone to kill themselves? Was she raised in a barn?

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like honestly let me just sync this video up with any lana song and observe the bits of artistic symbiosis 

 

 

 

 

[Viva 3,169]

Absolute nobody? Maybe to someone who's only been around 5 minutes. She was only one of biggest influences on one of Lana's biggest idols (Kurt Cobain), not to mention alternative rock generally.

[Viva 3,169]

How she gonna publish a book telling someone to kill themselves? Was she raised in a barn?

 

Lana digs a little  suicide here and there so in a very twisted way this is kind of a homage to LDR's legacy

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Haha, so what she said was essentially "she does't even know what feminism is, she can't just do anything she wants as a woman! I will also tell another woman to kill themselves because they are troubled enough to have used/use drugs and have a mental illness (depression)". 

 

 

Edit: Apparently, sleeping with who you want is UNFEMINIST! Kim should stop calling the kettle black.

 

Edit: Her twitter is full of this Lana saga, she retweets people saying 'You go girl! I am SO buying this book now!'

 

The motives are clear as day.

[longtimeman 8,918]

As a gross older man who used to love Sonic Youth, all I can do is sigh.

[LAman 3,223]

"...whether it’s sleeping with gross old men or getting gang-raped by bikers"

 

Hey Kim, to each his own 

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You are all kind of missing the point...

 

Try to be a little objective about what Kim Gordon is trying to say.

In the end, Lana IS one of the empresses of the newest "Live fast die young" trend in which exploding your body and venturing yourself into the unknown sounds exciting through little posts from instagram or facebook or twitter. I think Kim belongs to an older culture which I can totally relate to, and I'm only 21.

Although I enjoy Lana's voice and music, sometimes I strongly "disagree" (and I use those marks because, well... You can't actually disagree with a song) with the messages through her songs. And sometimes she somehow glamourizes it so that people actually do want to live that.

 

I don't agree with the way but I definitely feel what she's trying to express...

 

And whenever you don't know someone, please at least google that person, because saying "who" with "diva GIFs" doesn't make you cool, it makes you a sad ignorant person who somehow shows pride on that. People need to stop degrading or minimizing other people's talent just because you aren't part of that zeitgeist or you don't like it. There IS a world beyond your tastes and preferences.

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This is....surprising. Specially coming from her.

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...What is her point tho? Is she trying to infer that Lana's belief that women should be allowed to do whatever they want (i.e anything men have been legally permitted to do for many centuries more) is not a part of feminist values?

I hate how people seem to translate Lana's statements of disinterest with feminism as an utter aversion to the feminist movement. She obviously should have answered with a polite nod like all pretty little female celebrities have to, but fuck all she said was that when people bring feminism up in conversation she doesn't care, she's more interested in space travel. SURE, IT'S KIND OF A DUMB ANSWER BUT LANA SAID HERSELF THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY ON THE MATTER. What's really sexist about all this is that the media forces Lana to speak on behalf of her gender and scrutinise her as a woman, and fuck to anyone that took this statement as a denouncement of feminism she gave her own, entirely accurate, description of a feminist, Lana clearly DOES understand what a feminist is because I'm pretty sure all women agree that feminism is about equalising rights between both sexes, i.e a woman who feels free to do whatever she wants.

Anyway, what the fuck does this have to do with Lana's "glamourisation" of death?

 

Let's just get this clear, the Lana that sings about her pain and alludes to Marilyn and Kurt Cobain in her music is NOT the same Lana that told the guardian she wished she was dead.

 

When Lana sings about death in her songs, we know it's her being overdramatic, it doesn't count as glamourisation because these songs aren't glamorous, they're fucking sad. Meanwhile, when Lana's on interview, after having just released her latest album, and leaving her boyfriend, and inbetween tours and shows on a tight schedule, you'd expect her not to feel so great. Cut the girl some mother fucking slack. And this senile old woman thinks she can get away with such blatant hypocrisy? She throws shade at Lana for "glamourising death" then advises Lana to kill herself? What an insightful, witty, observent GO FUCK YOURSELF.

 

Also based on how Lana responded to being put on the worst dressed list imagine how she'd react if she met this washed up cunt

 

Not gonna pretend I actually know who this bitch is tho.

Oh boy, she was big two decades ago? Well jeez do I feel left out, nah but for real let this dry-cunted asshole moan while she still has her fucking teeth

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How she gonna publish a book telling someone to kill themselves? Was she raised in a barn?