Speculations on Lana's relationship with her mother

[ilovetati 15,301]

Why is this even a thread? Lana lives in Cali and I assume her parents live in NY. Obviously the older a child gets, the more they drift apart from their parents. It ain't that deep lmao

 

Her most recent tweet. Lana reads AnalBoards confirmed.

[West Coast 45,904]

This thread even existing... oof.

 

Highly speculative here:

 

This is purely speculative and should be taken with a grain of salt, but:

What if Patty isn't accepting/respecting Chuck and Charlie's respective sexual identities? From what we know Chuck has been a relationship with a girl named Sveta for some time now, and Charlie is said to be bisexual? Lana being the big supportive sister isn't putting up with that homophobic behaviour? Just a theory though.

 

 

[gasstationkween 5,722]

This thread even existing... oof.

 

Highly speculative here:

 

This is purely speculative and should be taken with a grain of salt, but:

What if Patty isn't accepting/respecting Chuck and Charlie's respective sexual identities? From what we know Chuck has been a relationship with a girl named Sveta for some time now, and Charlie is said to be bisexual? Lana being the big supportive sister isn't putting up with that homophobic behaviour? Just a theory though.

 

 

Wait Charlie’s bi???

[daphnedinkley 13,943]

lana likes daddys 

 

not this being the peak of lana fanbase humour back in 2013

[genghis khan 5,111]

 

I don't know, I don't see anything abnormal about her relationship with either parent. With respect to her (clearly- more-introverted-than-dad) mom. These two interviews have some data.

 

http://www.electronicbeats.net/en/features/interviews/lana-del-rey-interview/

has LDR discussing "Church sex scandals" with her mom.

 

http://lanadelreyonline.com/lana-del-rey-interviewed-by-der-spiegel/

has discussion about LDR promising her mother always to be home at Christmas. Also, generally speaking, when LDR talks about discipline issues as a kid, it's always in the context of her "parents".

 

BTW "My momma" never struck me as being autobiographical. LDR is often loose or revisionist when she talks about herself, even if she said once that her songs were 100% autobiographical on other occasions she's bound to say otherwise. This should work for her as many times as it works against her. 

 

BTW-2: Yeah a "Chuck candid" with Chuck in the photo? Hmmh, wouldn't it be more newsworthy for a paparazzi to just note and photograph the fact that Chuck was staging a photo. Rob has also tweeted (at least in my memory and I'm paraphrasing), if you pick your nose in Hollywood expect it to show up on the internet.

 

 

pls. im dying for these links to be recovered 

Wait Charlie’s bi???

 

i don't know if its confirmed but she sets my gaydar senses off

[MargaretThatcher 1,333]

I have always wondered about this.

 

It looks like Lana has a great relationship with her dad. We have seen her with her mom, but it’s been a while. Then she had that Mother’s Day post on IG back in May and it kind of makes you think there are issues.

 

I believe her parents live in Florida now judging by Rob’s IG posts. Makes sense considering the fact that people are fleeing New York and for good reason.

 

Lana probably wasn’t an easy child to have around. Mothers freak out when they see their daughters going wild. I get the impression that maybe Patricia was emotionally unavailable or just didn’t understand Lana and her issues. Lana could very well resent her mother. Who knows. Sending Lana to boarding school was probably her mother’s idea. We do know that Lana is a recovering alcoholic and has had mental health issues. I for one know what it’s like to struggle with mental health. As for alcoholism, my father had a drinking problem for many years. When someone is drinking you often want them to just stop. If they don’t then you kind of want them to go away and not do it around you. Hence, in Lana’s case, Lana being sent to boarding school.

 

I think Lana’s art is how she deals with her personal issues. I remember James Franco saying that Lana lives in her art and I think that’s very much true.

 

I am curious as to how Chuck and Charlie’s relationship is like with their mother.

[ShadesOfFool 20,318]

maybe patty's just a douche. 

[MargaretThatcher 1,333]

maybe patty's just a douche.

 

I don’t know her so who knows. It is clear that there are issues between them.

[genghis khan 5,111]

Is it too invasive if I speculate about her having BPD? I don't see it as a necessarily negative thing, it's just as neutral as being depressed or anxious. Based on the things she writes about and her behaviour it was always sort of obvious to me.  Since I have it too I think it's the reason why i've connected to her so much over the years.

 

Anyways, the cause of BPD is pretty much always an emotionally distant or abusive parent

[MargaretThatcher 1,333]

Is it too invasive if I speculate about her having BPD? I don't see it as a necessarily negative thing, it's just as neutral as being depressed or anxious. Based on the things she writes about and her behaviour it was always sort of obvious to me.  Since I have it too I think it's the reason why i've connected to her so much over the years.

 

Anyways, the cause of BPD is pretty much always an emotionally distant or abusive parent

I’m pretty sure she is bipolar. It runs in my family. I have it. This is part of the reason why I relate to her so much.

 

My father is bipolar and he was physically abused by his grandmother. He was also abused (corporal punishment) in Catholic school as a kid. He developed a drinking problem at a young age. Lana also developed a drinking problem at a young age.

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Her mom seems pretty introverted to me, maybe she hates been in the spotlight.

[MargaretThatcher 1,333]

Her mom seems pretty introverted to me, maybe she hates been in the spotlight.

It's not easy being a parent when your son or daughter is famous. They are in the spotlight and you see it through the news. It aint easy. 

[rubytuesday 222]

I think she had a strenuous relationship with her mother for most of her life "My Momma" but something happened and there was a big rift in the past year or two. The sudden significant referencing of being Motherless, growing up without love recently online and in Violet indicates it's a new, recent wound. Or the opening of an old one from childhood. I'd imagine being sent away to boarding school when you're going through something (I mostly believe she was just partying a bit too much and her parents wanted to curb her behaviour and thought it was a good school because she was musically gifted) feels like an abandonment age 15. 

 

And from pure speculation not based in much, I feel like they didn't get along because her mother was emotionally unavailable. The reference to her mothers glamour etc always seemed a lot colder, more aloof than her mentioning of her father. And it would make sense if there really was a short time when she didn't speak to her parents that her father might have been more eager to apologise/re-connect. 

[PARADIXO 33,301]

I think she had a strenuous relationship with her mother for most of her life "My Momma" but something happened and there was a big rift in the past year or two. The sudden significant referencing of being Motherless, growing up without love recently online and in Violet indicates it's a new, recent wound. Or the opening of an old one from childhood. I'd imagine being sent away to boarding school when you're going through something (I mostly believe she was just partying a bit too much and her parents wanted to curb her behaviour and thought it was a good school because she was musically gifted) feels like an abandonment age 15. 

 

And from pure speculation not based in much, I feel like they didn't get along because her mother was emotionally unavailable. The reference to her mothers glamour etc always seemed a lot colder, more aloof than her mentioning of her father. And it would make sense if there really was a short time when she didn't speak to her parents that her father might have been more eager to apologise/re-connect. 

 

Yes, I bet she felt ashamed of herself when she was sent to boarding school. This part from Bare Feet on Linoleum made me so sad for her:

 

Would standing in front of Mount Rushmore feel like the Great American homecoming I never had?

Would the magnitude of the scale of the sculptures take the place of the warm embrace I've never got

 

 

Going back home after boarding school must've felt terrible, she felt like she had no family after what they've done to her. It's like parents sending their kids straight to a therapist instead of trying to help them themselves first. She had to find warmth in the unknown, in the vast, in the outside, far away from home.

[ChaoticLipster 24,843]

Is it too invasive if I speculate about her having BPD? I don't see it as a necessarily negative thing, it's just as neutral as being depressed or anxious. Based on the things she writes about and her behaviour it was always sort of obvious to me. Since I have it too I think it's the reason why i've connected to her so much over the years.

 

Anyways, the cause of BPD is pretty much always an emotionally distant or abusive parent

I have BPD and I agree, she resonates a lot with me and her behaviour. My dad is extremely abusive. So that makes sense. But it’s not for anyone to go diaganosing her. Some things are just personality and behavioural without being BPD or a mental illness.

[bartendnrrr 51]

it's so funny to read this topic after the poetry book

 

anyway, lana and her father are closer but we haven't seen her with patty publicly since 2015

 

in her post on Mother's Day and the fact that she cares a lot about her father (post on ig 11/18/2020), it seems that she and her mother have distanced themselves again but these are things that we will never know why

 

or maybe in her next book "behind the iron gates - insights from an institution" that she said would be more personal 

 

in fact she now considers a lady called Candice her mother but I find it very personal to discuss

[99centlips 8,526]

On 6/29/2020 at 11:29 PM, sexyslutboy said:

 

pls. im dying for these links to be recovered 

 

if these interviews are in the print magazines I might have both. 

[fantascination 1,308]

Totally necroing this thread, but I haven’t seen anyone mention these lyrics in Raise Me Up:

 

”it’s like you said, it’s all been done before

I don’t have to talk pretty for them no more

 

I can talk what I want, how I wanna

I don’t have to talk taste for you, mama”

 

Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but I think that does kind of indicate that Lana and her mother don’t get along - and that her mother may have expected her to be more prim and proper, and more of a debutante. Lana is a self-branded free spirit, so this likely caused tension between them. 

[Lentilus 25,735]

@daisy fresh bitchhon, you're up, I know you're Patty lurking on LB. What's the deal with you and your Daughter Lana?

[Carmen21rey 0]

what do you think happened to Lana's mother?