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tbh I wouldn't actually instantly assume yes because they are your own unique work, she was merely the inspiration. I think the biggest problem would be using any of her lyricism. but at this thread reveals, definitely worth researching before you commit.

same, I almost asked my parents to gift it to me as a birthday present

I still can't believe this happend I almost bought it

The real question is WHAT trading forum do Eclipse and Moy use???????? Seriously wtf

The amount of money put into this project converts to nearly 7.5k in USD.

You know what I would give to have had even a small fraction of that $7.5k when my cat was dying of cancer and I was barely scraping up enough money just to afford consultation appointments to find out what was wrong with her so I could have ended her suffering sooner?
 
You know what I would give to have had a fraction of that money just to have helped family members of mine afford treatments to help ease their agony and get them comfortable while they endured terminal illness?
 
And yet I have to see someone use that much money (that wasn't even theirs to use to begin with,) to pay off a Mac computer and a Netflix subscription, among other luxuries, and chalk up such irresponsible financial decisions as "essential to human existence." I think everyone continued to lead quality lives just fine without DVDs being shipped to their houses in 1998 and their favorite shows being streamed directly to their devices since 2007.
 
I thought the case of Ethan Couch would have been the first and last time I had to hear about the poppycock diagnosis of "affluenza"; clearly it is contagious and exists in various strains.
 
You know what I did when my Spotify Premium subscription was up and I couldn't afford to pay another month? I didn't renew it.
 
You know what I did when my PlayStation Plus subscription was up and I couldn't afford to pay for another month? I didn't renew it.
 
You know what I did when I quit my job in November under the false pretense that I had another job lined up, and couldn't afford Christmas gifts because I was unemployed? I didn't spend money I didn't have, and I told everyone not to worry about me for Christmas.

I especially did not use money given by people, who were customers expecting a product to be developed and distributed to them as promised, to pay off debts I racked up under my own accord.

As someone who suffers from depression, anxiety, and OCD, that open letter was absolutely cringeworthy to read, because I saw more investment in elaborate and outrageous excuses to justify irresponsibility, practically begging readers to say "Oh, I TOTALLY get that," than I saw investment in assuming full responsibility and remorse for letting one's personal issues cloud their judgment.

As the son of a business owner, and as a partner of a creative business, that open letter was absolutely cringeworthy to read, because under zero circumstances do you touch a single red cent of your customers' monies before you provide them absolutely 100% of your services. You do not touch a single red cent of your customers' monies before you provide them the quality product they paid for.

Putting the copyright legalities of the lyrics alone aside, as far as the use of pictures go, that money could have been used to pay artists to replicate photos or even contribute their own art for the project. I can already tag a handful of members on this forum who are talented and aspiring artists/graphic designers, and would have loved to contribute to this project for a small fee, or even for free, had they been asked or offered the opportunity.

He says he intends to refund everyone, but I have to chuckle at the advertising of snapbacks, as though his reputation as a seller has not been compromised in the slightest, and anyone who already lost money investing in the book, would be inclined to confidently put another dime into his business. Bite the bullet, try harder to find work, and actually earn the money that is going to be used to pay everyone back.

Even then, let's say that he gets a job where he is paid $9/hr. or better, and intends to put $200 aside out of each paycheck to pay off the debt his shenanigans caused him. If he is paid bi-weekly, he is only seeing a paycheck 26/52 weeks a year, which means that it would take him at least a year just to pay off $5.2k of what he owes everyone, adding on another 11.5 weeks to pay off the remaining $2.3k or so, if I am doing my math right.

With that kind of time-frame, I'd love to see how well he commits to this lofty attempt at redemption and compensation, as nice as the ideal sounds when you are looking at it through rose-colored glasses. It sounds like there is an overwhelming amount of customers to keep track of, and I'd be concerned that, eventually, he would lose track, and either forget people, or accidentally give people double or triple the amount they are owed.

I certainly hope he figures it out as soon as he puts his life, his values and his priorities in perspective, and I certainly hope everyone who invested in this failed project gets their money back, one way or another; and if the above theory is the most likely approach to each customer seeing their refund, they start thinking about if they are willing to wait that long, or intend to take other measures to get the refund they deserve. PayPal only handles claims within 180 days of the transaction so I wouldn't expect them to willingly rush to everyone's aid.

I also hope that the moderators have been considering how to possibly handle future situations like this, should another member attempt to use their fellow peers and their love for an artist to gain profit, and fail to carry out their obligation as a vendor/seller with the utmost integrity and consideration; and so it is not misunderstood (as I love and respect each of the mods here,) I am not saying "I hope" as a passive-aggressive jab. I am saying it as a genuine inquiry because as a fellow member here, the integrity of our community is just as important to me as I know it is to everyone else, no matter who was involved in this.

Underneath the layers of excuses and awkward attempts to persuade everyone into pity and understanding, this was still a scam like any other. Regardless of whether or not anyone involved could have used better judgment than to invest in a product, that didn't even at least make it past the prototype phase, friends and peers were manipulated by a member of our community, with whom they had entrusted a monetary investment. It is just as much of a display of poor character as it is when members here spread false rumors of unreleased music to garner attention, and not for the sake of a laugh or to make a point. We've had good members who have been banned for less and never got to explain themselves.

Good luck, guys.

Meanwhile, he's actively participating in the trading community of other forums. Not judging, collecting music is fun but I think he should set his priorities straight if he wants to fix all this. Just my thoughts on this whole mess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I am #beyond #gagged at his mom's audacity tho

tl;dr

#FirstWorldProblems
 
No, no, no. When you owe people money, you don't leave a shitty job unless and until you find another one.
 
Stop. Talking. You're making it so much worse.
The money you got was to produce the product and fulfill your obligations. AFTER doing that and ONLY THEN should you have spent any of the money on personal expenses.
 
It's really not. I don't have Netflix or cable or anything even though I could easily afford it. It's definitely not essential when you can't. Especially when you owe people money. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices in life, and this hardly even qualifies.
 
As you should. Tons of other people have lost money on your book too. Boo hoo.

As touching as your little family story is, unless it's a matter of life or death, it's just wrong to spend other people's money like that.
 
Yup.
 
As harsh as my tone may sound, I do understand what it's like to make dumb financial mistakes when you're young and the shame that goes with it. (I racked up so many parking tickets in college I got my car towed twice and wasted over a thousand dollars.) But you need to take ownership of them and the consequences. And hopefully learn from them.
 
Make it stop. You're gonna wear out your shovel on this hole you keep digging.
 
IT WASN'T YOUR MONEY TO SPEND ON GIFTS FOR PEOPLE.
 
IT WAS YOUR CHOICE TO QUIT YOUR JOB.
 
While I normally wouldn't recommend quitting school, this is the first faint hint of responsibility in your whole spiel.
 
Ummm...  
 
I (thankfully) didn't buy a book, and this should be up to the people who did, but if it were up to me, I think you should cut all expenses possible and just work your ass off to pay everyone back as soon as fucking possible. (I mean, even reprinting the lyrics might get you into trouble with copyright.) Chalk this up to a hard-earned life lesson. And then afterwards hopefully go back to school as soon as you're ready and able.

#EvilFinancialTips

If this mess/drama doesn't win several awards at the Lipsters next year I'm going to be disappointed

sorry y'all. You're never getting your book neither your money

Honestly I feel sorry for ha but you DO NOT WASTE other people's money in personal issues. You don't.
 
I cringed at "I used the money for my Netflix subscription because that's a human life essential" P L E A S E
 
 
And was the book so expensive that he had like £2000 of profit? That was a scam from the beginning.

GoFund a lawyer now

On Facebook his job title is "self-employed" 
LMAO with all the money he STOLE 

LOL I always knew @ was a fucking idiot

Yeah I just had to escalate my dispute to a claim. We'll see what happens. Very frustrating.

Wow this is all such bullshit, I feel sorry for any of you that got scammed out of your money.

Yas Ashley ya'll should enter this gorl is trustworthy asf she isn't gonna pull a Moy on you

Hey lovelies 
 
After the success of last year's Honeymoon Giveaway, I've decided to do a raffle
Each entry costs $1  $5 = 5 entries there's no limit on how many entries you can have, but you can only win one item
(I'm only asking for $ this time because international shipping is hella expensive ) 
(depending on how successful this is and where live, you may have to pay for part of shipping, but I'm hoping to avoid that!)
You must have over 50 posts to enter
If you were a winner in the Honeymoon Giveaway you aren't eligible for this contest 
If you were apart of the whole Moy book issue you automatically get an entry, just have proof!
 
Prizes are:
Fader 
Born To Die (Target Edition) 
Paradise (standalone EP from Target) 
Ultraviolence (Target Edition)
Ultraviolence (Urban Outfitters LP)
Honeymoon
 
Paypal: lanaboardscont@yahoo.com
include your user name and what prizes you'd like to enter in for
if you want to gift an entry let me know 
If you just want to donate to the cause, I'm 100% okay with that too
MAKE SURE YOU CLICK "SEND MONEY TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY" 
doing it through "pay for goods and services" won't allow me to collect the money unless there's tracking info
Leftover $ will be used to buy more Lana things for the next giveaway/raffle  
Deadline to enter is August 31st 

American - Lana Del Rey

Can you put your drawing on imgur or something? I really want to download it. It's amazing.

Holy FUCK the last minute of S4E1 

Right fatties do not spoil this shit for me, USE SPOILERS!!! I've just started episode 1 and I am SO pumped.... so much for school work
oh well

already know I'm gonna hate that new dyke bitch, ugh she makes me angry just looking at her