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I liked her latest posts. But I really really really really really hope that it's left at that. Go back to your radio silence Lana please!!!
 
Also lol at her gaining over 100k followers during all this

I liked her latest posts. But I really really really really really hope that it's left at that. Go back to your radio silence Lana please!!!
 
Also lol at her gaining over 100k followers during all this

I liked her latest posts. But I really really really really really hope that it's left at that. Go back to your radio silence Lana please!!!
 
Also lol at her gaining over 100k followers during all this

You made some very good points and I admit, as an asian person from Europe I perceive these Black/White issues and topics in America differently than the people who are actually involved. I'm just recognizing a trend on social media to label everyone as a racist as soon as different ethnicities come into play, even though may not even be a racial issue in the first place. While I do understand why people have very strong feelings about this topic I also try to offer a third view, one that is not as heatedly involved and maybe be a bit more neutral than the white american vs. black american. Side note, America wouldn't probably be in half of this mess if it handled and processed it's history differently.
 
From my perspective, I never really perceived Lana as a racist. Maybe ignorant and awkward from time to time but nothing bad enough to justify all the hate she gets now and I suspect most of the harsh criticism she gets is because she's white. And yes, while there may be some underlying racial elements as to why she picked Kanye, imo it takes a lot more than that to actually qualify as a racist - at least in her case. She may've been an opportunist but I never saw her as a racist.

the "open your purse" comments really get on my nerves... she's under no obligation to prove to anybody that she donated money, and i'm assuming she already has. if she did post that she donated, people would think she is showing off and just doing it to make herself look good, but if she doesn't post about it, people would assume she didn't donate at all, and that she hasn't done enough. i guess her donations are only valid if she chooses to broadcast it to the world. 

THE CURSE OF MAY IS OVER

Her newest posts are great and everyone complaining further just wants to hate her at this point. The protestors in the pics are wearing masks and it's a peaceful protest, so don't start pretending those pictures shouldn't be posted. And people saying "show your purse" are just next level stupid. Her post said she's doing other things as well, we can assume she's donating. People who feel the need to show how much money they gave on social media may be donating for the wrong reasons.

Who you referring to girl

Wait I need this to happen!
 
Serving
 
 
realness.

1.Let me love you like a woman
2. White Hot forever
3. My police man wants to kill your mother
4. In the Land of forgotten musicvideos ( RIP Nfr, Hiab und Bartender video mp3.version)
5. Yosemite-I'm no longer a candle in the wind
6. Roses Bloom for you
7. How to make long ass song titles 
8. Yoga pants are a very dangerous thing for me to have- but I fucking have them
9. The zodiac sign song for my astrology hoes
10.  The first front row- Win Edwards in my mind
11. Don't call me an angel remix- feat. Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus, Cardi B, Kanye West, G-eazy & more
12. I will spill the tea about the conspiracy theories about me and my mother in 10 fucking years
13. Wicked Game- with Chris Isaak
14. For K part 3 - I used Sean Larkin to get you out of prison
15. It is time to say goodbye to Jack Antonoffs Dick

Seen a fan on twitter smashing all her CD’s Lana doesn’t care she has the $$$ ...so childish and over the top. Fake stans

1 Hot
2 Summer
3 Nights
4 Mid
5 July
6 You
7 And
8 I
9 Were
10 Forever
11Wild
12 Crazy
13 Days
14 City
15 Lights
 
DELUXE VERSION BONUS TRACKS:
16 Chemtrails Over the Country Club
17 Country Club Over the Chemtrails
18 Norman Fucking Rockwell (ft. the ghost of Norman Rockwell)

WHITE HOT FOREVER
 
1. I'm glamorous
2. famous
3. Notorious
4. dangerous
5. but you're crazy
6. I'm gonna leave you
7. You're Not a Real Girl
8. You're Like a Cartoon
9. All Caught Up In This Fame Game
10. Yo
11. Good luck, Good Luck, Good Luck
12. May All The Stars In The Sky Bow Down To You - We're Through.

I don't think we need to worry about her career. There are so many racist people in America - they probably love her even more now. 
 
In all seriousness, if/when her new album is released there's only going to be a minor murmur from this point of time from people who were following (Lana stans and Twitter). Almost everyone agrees she is well intentioned, but terribly and ignorantly executed - I think even the biggest critics here on Lanaboards would agree she didn't intend to cause harm (regardless of the aftermath) and anyone that thinks she is being malicious is delusional. My point is that people still listen to horrible people who have done and said far worse things, and Lana's music will continue to be listened to. If you can't quit her music but hate her now, it's time to separate the artist from the art. 
 
She was never part of the mainstream, so this isn't going to really push her out of anything . . .
I expect much later down the track she will do a number of interviews on this and will have the help of a writer to properly articulate her rationale and, hopefully, an apology and an acknowledgement of her mistake about positionality. It might seem like I'm dismissing this, but if you're basing it on the reactions of Lanaboards and Twitter uhhhhh they are really not indicative of the real world, and the average person will not care. If you look at her Facebook, which is an entirely different demographic, most of the top posts are people affirming her speaking out.

When good intentions don't cut it, people turn your tone deaf/less than smart moves into you actually wanting to be malicious, making it seem like said moves are you genuinely being ill intentioned. This is getting fucking ridiculous. I understand and agree with most of the criticism in regards to her approach, but she listened to criticism and legit took down the video. This is getting extremely vicious and tiresome now.
 
Lana sweetie, do yourself a service and just disconnect for a while.

I don't know how this is all going to play out. I can't see her ditching social media altogether because she's very visual, and I don't think an arrangement like Lorde's newsletters-in-lieu-of-social-media would work for her in terms of promotion and releases.
 
I don't like the idea of her having someone else run her social media for her, and she doesn't strike me as the type of person who would go for that anyway. However, I think it's clear that she needs some assistance - she needs someone, either in an official or unofficial capacity, to run posts by.
 
Hindsight is 20/20, but I think that most people here (for example) could've anticipated the obvious problems with her original typewritten post, had we been shown it before she posted it. Like, I read it within 2 minutes of it going up, and immediately thought, "she's probably going to get roasted for name dropping Black women and using a false analogy". I feel like most people who read it probably thought the same.
 
Maybe she is running posts by someone, but whoever that is is clearly a moron, so she should pick someone else.

I don't think we need to worry about her career. There are so many racist people in America - they probably love her even more now. 
 
In all seriousness, if/when her new album is released there's only going to be a minor murmur from this point of time from people who were following (Lana stans and Twitter). Almost everyone agrees she is well intentioned, but terribly and ignorantly executed - I think even the biggest critics here on Lanaboards would agree she didn't intend to cause harm (regardless of the aftermath) and anyone that thinks she is being malicious is delusional. My point is that people still listen to horrible people who have done and said far worse things, and Lana's music will continue to be listened to. If you can't quit her music but hate her now, it's time to separate the artist from the art. 
 
She was never part of the mainstream, so this isn't going to really push her out of anything . . .
I expect much later down the track she will do a number of interviews on this and will have the help of a writer to properly articulate her rationale and, hopefully, an apology and an acknowledgement of her mistake about positionality. It might seem like I'm dismissing this, but if you're basing it on the reactions of Lanaboards and Twitter uhhhhh they are really not indicative of the real world, and the average person will not care. If you look at her Facebook, which is an entirely different demographic, most of the top posts are people affirming her speaking out.

@@sexyslutboy - absolutely! For Harriet's video is fabulous. I'm linking it here for everyone else to check out.


A great quote from this is "You don't have to try to do harm, to do harm."

I'm unsure how many of the comments on the previous page are taking about my post, but I would like to clarify:

Anyone is entitled to be offended by Lana's statement, because despite her good intentions, it was a clumsy and misguided statement.

I do however find it dangerous to imply or attribute statements to people who didn't actually say them, and while implications are associated with the original post, to me there is no sentiment where she implied black women in music didn't have the capacity to be sensitive. Just a bunch of other problematic things. 

I don't think we need to worry about her career. There are so many racist people in America - they probably love her even more now. 
 
In all seriousness, if/when her new album is released there's only going to be a minor murmur from this point of time from people who were following (Lana stans and Twitter). Almost everyone agrees she is well intentioned, but terribly and ignorantly executed - I think even the biggest critics here on Lanaboards would agree she didn't intend to cause harm (regardless of the aftermath) and anyone that thinks she is being malicious is delusional. My point is that people still listen to horrible people who have done and said far worse things, and Lana's music will continue to be listened to. If you can't quit her music but hate her now, it's time to separate the artist from the art. 
 
She was never part of the mainstream, so this isn't going to really push her out of anything . . .
I expect much later down the track she will do a number of interviews on this and will have the help of a writer to properly articulate her rationale and, hopefully, an apology and an acknowledgement of her mistake about positionality. It might seem like I'm dismissing this, but if you're basing it on the reactions of Lanaboards and Twitter uhhhhh they are really not indicative of the real world, and the average person will not care. If you look at her Facebook, which is an entirely different demographic, most of the top posts are people affirming her speaking out.

I literally burst out laughing at this bit. Legendary.

@@sexyslutboy - absolutely! For Harriet's video is fabulous. I'm linking it here for everyone else to check out.


A great quote from this is "You don't have to try to do harm, to do harm."

I'm unsure how many of the comments on the previous page are taking about my post, but I would like to clarify:

Anyone is entitled to be offended by Lana's statement, because despite her good intentions, it was a clumsy and misguided statement.

I do however find it dangerous to imply or attribute statements to people who didn't actually say them, and while implications are associated with the original post, to me there is no sentiment where she implied black women in music didn't have the capacity to be sensitive. Just a bunch of other problematic things. 

SZA (whoever she is idk? sorry) is reaching. Of things to be offended by, she is picking a weird non-existent sentiment that wasn't even implied. You really can twist a statement to mean anything these days I suppose, as long as there is enough public outcry about something else.
 
ETA:
What is this LUNACY??????????? This is really dangerous logic. Someone having an opinion on something does not automatically mean they assume the absolute binary on other opinions.
 
For example, if someone thinks women are strong, it does not mean they think men are weak.
 
Saying artists can be overt and sexualised, does not mean that they cannot be feminine. 
 
Aggressively reading between the lines and finding a lens to be offended through is absolutely counterproductive to any intelligent conversation or argument because it means that you can disagree with everything for the sake of it without base. It's the logic of flat-earthers who have no scientific evidence to stand on but the rebuttal is 'well we don't know for sure!'. Lana's clumsy first and subsequent tirades do not imply at all that black women are not "GENTLE soft ethereal beings", she is addressing that she feels resentment that she can't explore the same (whether or not that is true is absolutely up for debate, as we have seen).
 
Consider what you can extrapolate from this statement:
I like the music of Lana del Rey, and London Grammar. I don't like music from Beyonce, I think it's too poppy.
 
Based on what isn't said here and the 'implied suggestion' argument, here are the things you could say:
I only like music from white people I don't like music from black people I only like female singers I hate male singers I only like alternative music I hate pop music I don't like Australian music I'm homophobic as I don't listen to any queer identifying artists On and on, when I'm just saying some artists I like, and I don't really like Beyoncé.
 
There are merits to the arguments that the name-dropping of black artists is unfortunate, but purposefully creating reasons to be offended by looking at words that are unsaid is extremely counterproductive, and just give the concession that people are entitled to be offended at everything based on nothing. 

I don't think we need to worry about her career. There are so many racist people in America - they probably love her even more now. 
 
In all seriousness, if/when her new album is released there's only going to be a minor murmur from this point of time from people who were following (Lana stans and Twitter). Almost everyone agrees she is well intentioned, but terribly and ignorantly executed - I think even the biggest critics here on Lanaboards would agree she didn't intend to cause harm (regardless of the aftermath) and anyone that thinks she is being malicious is delusional. My point is that people still listen to horrible people who have done and said far worse things, and Lana's music will continue to be listened to. If you can't quit her music but hate her now, it's time to separate the artist from the art. 
 
She was never part of the mainstream, so this isn't going to really push her out of anything . . .
I expect much later down the track she will do a number of interviews on this and will have the help of a writer to properly articulate her rationale and, hopefully, an apology and an acknowledgement of her mistake about positionality. It might seem like I'm dismissing this, but if you're basing it on the reactions of Lanaboards and Twitter uhhhhh they are really not indicative of the real world, and the average person will not care. If you look at her Facebook, which is an entirely different demographic, most of the top posts are people affirming her speaking out.

I don't think we need to worry about her career. There are so many racist people in America - they probably love her even more now. 
 
In all seriousness, if/when her new album is released there's only going to be a minor murmur from this point of time from people who were following (Lana stans and Twitter). Almost everyone agrees she is well intentioned, but terribly and ignorantly executed - I think even the biggest critics here on Lanaboards would agree she didn't intend to cause harm (regardless of the aftermath) and anyone that thinks she is being malicious is delusional. My point is that people still listen to horrible people who have done and said far worse things, and Lana's music will continue to be listened to. If you can't quit her music but hate her now, it's time to separate the artist from the art. 
 
She was never part of the mainstream, so this isn't going to really push her out of anything . . .
I expect much later down the track she will do a number of interviews on this and will have the help of a writer to properly articulate her rationale and, hopefully, an apology and an acknowledgement of her mistake about positionality. It might seem like I'm dismissing this, but if you're basing it on the reactions of Lanaboards and Twitter uhhhhh they are really not indicative of the real world, and the average person will not care. If you look at her Facebook, which is an entirely different demographic, most of the top posts are people affirming her speaking out.