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it's not that she isn't genuine anymore, she just got signed up by a major record label and we all know how difficult it can be to be signed to a label. they want hits, they want to make profit and this is what's happening with kim. they're trying so hard to make her do stuff she probably doesn't want to in order to have a hit. i think deep down she's still very genuine, we heard the problematique scrapped songs, they're very og kim to me. she's compromising and playing their game and nothing is going well since then... (she got a #1 and a grammy but i wouldn't call that a win since it's for unholy )

she started independent releasing a lot of singles ( with the rainbow colored single art), which was super exciting. She then follows up with her halloween album (Turn Off The Light) and Clarity. her concerts were so much fun, the music was good with very original lyrics, exciting collabs (for example Charli XCX), she seemed very genuine and funny. she honestly felt like the next big pop star that was “selfmade” for most people. 
 
i feel like it went downhill after malibu/future starts now and especially with slut pop 

honestly i get it but i dont want to get it 

she honestly doesn’t come across “genuine” anymore if that makes sense?
 
like the kim i saw at her concert seems like a different person idk how to explain…
 
the music is worse, lyrics are so much worse, she seems different 
 
i can’t put it into words well someone help me out 

die hard fans made a huge deal out of kim not working with dr luke anymore after releasing 2 songs without him
 
then she releases a dr luke song with a nicki feature it was bad for her

yeah i noticed that too, she's totally out of her element. it's like she's coming into nicki's world (nicki has a lot of videos in that style, just look at motorsport and dip with tyga) instead of having nicki come into her world. i mean it's your own song girl do your thing! 

it's giving Warrior 

I agree but I also think "most important female singer of the 60s and 70s" is ... generous (although I realise this is Lana's opinion, I get where it's coming from, and I respect it). 
Important? Yes. Most important? Not really. The 60s and 70s were stacked with talented and iconic female singers. No disrespect to Joan st all, but I do think Lana inflates her influence just a little. 

i am once again expressing that the way that some people talk about older women on this website is pretty disappointing and gross 

Lana Del Rey Wanted to Sing With Joan Baez. But First, She’d Have to Find Her.
The musicians on the audition that changed them both — and the “secret to real success.”

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Joan Baez: In 2019, Lana, whom I’d heard about from my granddaughter, Jasmine, invited me to sing with her in Berkeley. I said, “Why? Your audience could be my great-grandchildren.” And she said, “They don’t deserve you.”
Lana and I are sort of opposites. When I was starting out, I wouldn’t let anyone else onstage. I had two microphones — one for me, one for my guitar — and I stood barefoot, singing sad folk songs. I didn’t even write for the first 10 years, and she’s a songwriter.
I stopped singing three years ago; it was time to move on. After 60 years as a musician, I started painting. An artist friend said I need to loosen up and make mistakes so, if a painting isn’t working out, I dunk it twice in the swimming pool to see if it becomes something interesting. A hose will also do.
If people want to learn from me, I tell them to look beyond the music to my engagement with human and civil rights. My voice was what it was, but the real gift was using it. A documentary has just been made about me [“Joan Baez I Am a Noise,” 2023]. There’s footage of me marching with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in Grenada, Miss., in 1966. At another point in the film, I mention in a letter to my parents that I want to save the world. Lana doesn’t make such grand political statements — at Berkeley, she brought me out to do it for her. And yet, amid the colorful chaos and glitter of her show, she was at one point, I believe, barefoot.
 
Lana Del Rey: I was having a show at Berkeley three years ago and wanted Joan to sing “Diamonds & Rust” (1975) with me. She told me she lived an hour south of San Francisco, and that if I could not only find her but also sing the song’s high harmonies on the spot, she’d do it. I was given a vague map to get to a house distinguishable only by its color and the chickens running in the yard. At one point during my audition, she stopped me with a steely look to let me know I didn’t get it right. By the end, she said, “OK, that’s good. I’ll sing with you.”
Midway through the performance, I said to the audience, “I have someone coming onstage who is the most generous-of-spirit singer I know, and the most important female singer of the ’60s and ’70s, and we’re gonna do ‘Diamonds & Rust’ together.” After the show, we went to an Afro-Caribbean two-step club, and she told me not to stop dancing until she did. That’s what my song “Dance Till We Die” (2021) is about. 
I think the secret to real success is to make sure you’re always emotionally intact. I learned that from Joan. I recently said to her, “I just want you to know that I’m keenly aware that, in this lifetime or any other, I have no right to be standing shoulder to shoulder with you.” And she replied, “Oh, shut up.” 
 

Lana in her recent interview:
 
"I remember going to the Coachella festival a few years ago and learning that North Korea had installed missiles capable of hitting the United States. So I decided to return by the most beautiful road possible, the steepest: The Rim Of The World Highway, in the mountains of San Bernardino. I sat in the forest for a long time, and I frantically wrote [she sings]... "What about all these children/What about all their parents?". I was really worried. I don't care to free myself from the world, to get rid of the information that is looping in my head. I sometimes make songs about it [she sings When The World Was At War We Kept Dancing]... But don't be mistaken, I don't carry the weight of the world on my shoulders, I'm very relaxed every day. Except when it comes to starting a tour. There, I drown in the details, the anxieties... Up to questions that prevent me from sleeping, like the effectiveness of my new headset! It may sound conceited, but it matters when you're playing against 400,000 people!"

Speaking of British, @Coloringbooks, please give us (me) British Boys FInal by Poppy, thank you!
 
And back to the topic of Melanie, I heard her CD booklets were low quality but new replacements came in- think it was a local record store thing , so that's nice

Once again, we can't have one normal day here.. 
 
Moving on, though. I'm excited to see the Void video next month, and I'm hoping it doesn't take much longer after that for her to start filming TV. I have a lot of hope that she'll at least give Sirens it's own video too, if not all of the deluxe tracks. It would make one of the best videos out of the whole album, I think.

i love it when insiders/sellers start fights and leak people's vaults

who has the biggest leak contest! everybody whip out your leaks! lets see 

Oh you're not alone, I love Unhappy Meal so much! A lot of people don't like it for the rough production—but it's actually one of my top scrobbled Melanie songs since I got Last.fm back in 2018 lol. I collapsed so hard hearing it for the first time.
 
I hope to find out more about that song in the future… it's quite elusive/mysterious to me actually 

Sweet boy, straight out of the movie screen
Candy hearts and chocolate dreams
I met my prince upon a popcorn bowl
He held my heart and let it go
Ice cream upon a summer's day
Beginnin' sweetness never stays
 
You speak sour lemonade to me
The bitter taste won't let me be
One kiss was supposed to be so sweet
But I found grapefruit in your teeth
Old gum is all you'll ever be to me
I spit you out and brush my teeth
 
Enough of your bittersweet
Your sugar rots my teeth
Clogs up my arteries

She really was a genius! The metaphor, clever lyrics and grand production make this song one of my all time favourites from her 
 
Reminds me of WTBCF and BOMM which are ALSO masterpieces 

Wait! Did she take the Dollhouse EP out of streaming devices?? 
 
I don’t find Dead To Me or Bittersweet Tragedy (her best ballad ever with Seesaw) anywhere in ITunes 

why are you here?

cry baby outtakes r actually so genius... lemme list a few that r literally such genius mastermind taylor swift ended concepts
 
THE GIRLS WERE GONNA BE ENDED AND SHE SAVED THEM she said im not ready to be the youngest successful person yet so she scrapped cry baby complete edition with every single track she made for cry baby
honorable mentions that i dont think r really like mastermind but certain parts of them
 
dressed in mistakes
rotten milk

listening to SPIDER WEB actually gives me a headache

Voice changes over time and thats natural but its clear that her voice has changed pretty fast in the past few years. Her recent songs are showing that too and sometimes even by taking some medicines can cause voice changing. I dont know what happened to her during these years but its far from natural and I dont think smoking can cause this change this “fast”. Evil and BOTL are screaming vocal damage 

I mean there’s a lot of factors to voice problems including health so maybe there’s something she doesn’t want her fans to know 

did melanie quit smoking 
it’s clear she’s trying to achieve the fiona apple type of voice

Exactly. If I sounded the way she has been, and not only was no one worried about it, but they were also making excuses and pushing me to keep going? I'd be kind of pissed. Not to mention all the people saying things like "this is how she's always sounded", which couldn't be further from the truth.
 
I honestly just can't tell anymore if she's doing all of this for herself, and doesn't care that much about the damage she's acquired, or if she's only still going because no one has sincerely told her to stop yet. I wouldn't care so much myself if it weren't for the fact that you can hear her voice breaking in nearly every song she sings lately, and that she's almost been relying on backing tracks more than her own voice. It's sad.