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  1. honeymo0n liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I'm a little sad and annoyed but honestly ? Not surprised at all. She's always been ignorant. I hate to be reminded of that, but she did write QFTC and she did date that awful cop (among other stuff).
     
    Most of the time, her heart probably is in the right place but you obviously can't do good if you're not informed enough. 
     
    I wouldn't be surprised she has no clue about the situation in Palestine and just saw there was hostages and went with the narrative pushed by the pro-Israel propaganda. 
     
     

    Still can't like posts but I would if I could. 
  2. itsfuckinghot liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I'm a little sad and annoyed but honestly ? Not surprised at all. She's always been ignorant. I hate to be reminded of that, but she did write QFTC and she did date that awful cop (among other stuff).
     
    Most of the time, her heart probably is in the right place but you obviously can't do good if you're not informed enough. 
     
    I wouldn't be surprised she has no clue about the situation in Palestine and just saw there was hostages and went with the narrative pushed by the pro-Israel propaganda. 
     
     

    Still can't like posts but I would if I could. 
  3. honeymo0n liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
    Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
    Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
     
    Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 
  4. Ultra Violet liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    If it can enlighten people as to why this letter is so criticized:
    It is mostly full of shit regarding the conflict. It's not only poorly worded but plain disgusting when you read between the lines.
    Of course it's a good thing to ask for the release of hostages and I sure hope all of them are safe and will soon go back to their family, unharmed.
     
    But:
    "Thank you for your unshakable moral conviction"
    I wouldn't qualify funding the bombing of civilians to be an unshakable moral conviction, but ok.
     
    "and for the Palestinians who have also been terrorized, oppressed, and victimized by Hamas"
    Totally shifting the Apartheid politics perpetuated by Israel on the enemy's side. It's a gross manipulation I can't overlook. Anyone with two brain cells and access to Internet can learn how Israel deported, murdered, jailed Palestinians and destroyed any of their infrastructures since late 40s.
    Also, Israel helped create Hamas in the 80s to politically destabilize Palestine and smother any Palestinian authority to face them. Just saying.
     
    "We all want the same thing: freedom for Israelis and Palestinians to live side by side in peace"
    I believe these celebs they do. But the government of Israel don't. None of their actions show a urge to make peace. Look up the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. 
    Or the shady stuff surrounding Marwan Barghouti. Some Palestinian politicians could have led a pacific government had Israel not throw a wrench in the gears.
     
    "And most urgently, in this moment, freedom for the hostages."
    The wounded in Gaza having no access to water or really any ressources to even survive are just as important. No mention of Palestinians being bombed without the possibility of escaping, as Israel is encircling them. They're literally in an open-air prison. Their fate isn't different from hostages.
     
    A true peace statement would call for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid. That letter is garbage.
  5. fraulein liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I agree with everything you've posted, but I have to add to that: Palestine is all innocent. Hamas might be tied to Palestine but it isn't Palestine. It's kinda like the IRA/Ireland: the actions of one group shouldn't condemn civilians... especially when Israel has the means to send troops instead of blindly bombing lands. They're deliberately choosing to kill innocents. 
     
    They're also currently bombing the West Bank despite Hamas having no ties to Jordanians. Basically, they're using the deaths of their own people as an excuse to further expand the occupation. 
     
    What makes me super mad about that letter, though, is that line about Hamas terrorizing Palestine for 15 years. What a way to twist the truth... Israel has been deporting and purging Palestine for 70 years now, but I guess it's not important in the slightest 
     
     
    Exactly. Every country defending Israel is just protecting their interest. It has nothing to do with the fact they're Jews or surviving children of the Shoah. They couldn't care less about that. If they were truly shocked and moved by genocide, they would have lifted a finger for the freedom of Palestine long ago.
     
    Those hypocrites also would have welcomed Jews when they needed a place the most (Palestine wasn't even the promise land... Many Jews back in the day sought refuge in America, but were drove back because no one wanted them. It was apparently easier to give them a piece of land Western countries didn't truly own.)
     
    Also, friendly reminder that not every Jew is pro-Israel and even not every Israeli is pro-Israel (in the sense they're not ok with their government's decisions) just like not every Palestinian is pro-Hamas. All those civilians, whether they're from Israel or Palestine, mostly want peace. They're all victims of the actions of their own government, and that's what's so tragic. 
     
    All those celebs picking sides like it's a fucking football game are privileged, ignorant assholes sheltered in a safe country. When they praise Biden leadership, they just ignore the wish of agonizing populations that are fucking tired of politics and just want to be able to live another day. 
  6. luna de miel liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I'm a little sad and annoyed but honestly ? Not surprised at all. She's always been ignorant. I hate to be reminded of that, but she did write QFTC and she did date that awful cop (among other stuff).
     
    Most of the time, her heart probably is in the right place but you obviously can't do good if you're not informed enough. 
     
    I wouldn't be surprised she has no clue about the situation in Palestine and just saw there was hostages and went with the narrative pushed by the pro-Israel propaganda. 
     
     

    Still can't like posts but I would if I could. 
  7. shadesofblue liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    If it can enlighten people as to why this letter is so criticized:
    It is mostly full of shit regarding the conflict. It's not only poorly worded but plain disgusting when you read between the lines.
    Of course it's a good thing to ask for the release of hostages and I sure hope all of them are safe and will soon go back to their family, unharmed.
     
    But:
    "Thank you for your unshakable moral conviction"
    I wouldn't qualify funding the bombing of civilians to be an unshakable moral conviction, but ok.
     
    "and for the Palestinians who have also been terrorized, oppressed, and victimized by Hamas"
    Totally shifting the Apartheid politics perpetuated by Israel on the enemy's side. It's a gross manipulation I can't overlook. Anyone with two brain cells and access to Internet can learn how Israel deported, murdered, jailed Palestinians and destroyed any of their infrastructures since late 40s.
    Also, Israel helped create Hamas in the 80s to politically destabilize Palestine and smother any Palestinian authority to face them. Just saying.
     
    "We all want the same thing: freedom for Israelis and Palestinians to live side by side in peace"
    I believe these celebs they do. But the government of Israel don't. None of their actions show a urge to make peace. Look up the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. 
    Or the shady stuff surrounding Marwan Barghouti. Some Palestinian politicians could have led a pacific government had Israel not throw a wrench in the gears.
     
    "And most urgently, in this moment, freedom for the hostages."
    The wounded in Gaza having no access to water or really any ressources to even survive are just as important. No mention of Palestinians being bombed without the possibility of escaping, as Israel is encircling them. They're literally in an open-air prison. Their fate isn't different from hostages.
     
    A true peace statement would call for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid. That letter is garbage.
  8. violettiaras liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I agree with everything you've posted, but I have to add to that: Palestine is all innocent. Hamas might be tied to Palestine but it isn't Palestine. It's kinda like the IRA/Ireland: the actions of one group shouldn't condemn civilians... especially when Israel has the means to send troops instead of blindly bombing lands. They're deliberately choosing to kill innocents. 
     
    They're also currently bombing the West Bank despite Hamas having no ties to Jordanians. Basically, they're using the deaths of their own people as an excuse to further expand the occupation. 
     
    What makes me super mad about that letter, though, is that line about Hamas terrorizing Palestine for 15 years. What a way to twist the truth... Israel has been deporting and purging Palestine for 70 years now, but I guess it's not important in the slightest 
     
     
    Exactly. Every country defending Israel is just protecting their interest. It has nothing to do with the fact they're Jews or surviving children of the Shoah. They couldn't care less about that. If they were truly shocked and moved by genocide, they would have lifted a finger for the freedom of Palestine long ago.
     
    Those hypocrites also would have welcomed Jews when they needed a place the most (Palestine wasn't even the promise land... Many Jews back in the day sought refuge in America, but were drove back because no one wanted them. It was apparently easier to give them a piece of land Western countries didn't truly own.)
     
    Also, friendly reminder that not every Jew is pro-Israel and even not every Israeli is pro-Israel (in the sense they're not ok with their government's decisions) just like not every Palestinian is pro-Hamas. All those civilians, whether they're from Israel or Palestine, mostly want peace. They're all victims of the actions of their own government, and that's what's so tragic. 
     
    All those celebs picking sides like it's a fucking football game are privileged, ignorant assholes sheltered in a safe country. When they praise Biden leadership, they just ignore the wish of agonizing populations that are fucking tired of politics and just want to be able to live another day. 
  9. shadesofblue liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I agree with everything you've posted, but I have to add to that: Palestine is all innocent. Hamas might be tied to Palestine but it isn't Palestine. It's kinda like the IRA/Ireland: the actions of one group shouldn't condemn civilians... especially when Israel has the means to send troops instead of blindly bombing lands. They're deliberately choosing to kill innocents. 
     
    They're also currently bombing the West Bank despite Hamas having no ties to Jordanians. Basically, they're using the deaths of their own people as an excuse to further expand the occupation. 
     
    What makes me super mad about that letter, though, is that line about Hamas terrorizing Palestine for 15 years. What a way to twist the truth... Israel has been deporting and purging Palestine for 70 years now, but I guess it's not important in the slightest 
     
     
    Exactly. Every country defending Israel is just protecting their interest. It has nothing to do with the fact they're Jews or surviving children of the Shoah. They couldn't care less about that. If they were truly shocked and moved by genocide, they would have lifted a finger for the freedom of Palestine long ago.
     
    Those hypocrites also would have welcomed Jews when they needed a place the most (Palestine wasn't even the promise land... Many Jews back in the day sought refuge in America, but were drove back because no one wanted them. It was apparently easier to give them a piece of land Western countries didn't truly own.)
     
    Also, friendly reminder that not every Jew is pro-Israel and even not every Israeli is pro-Israel (in the sense they're not ok with their government's decisions) just like not every Palestinian is pro-Hamas. All those civilians, whether they're from Israel or Palestine, mostly want peace. They're all victims of the actions of their own government, and that's what's so tragic. 
     
    All those celebs picking sides like it's a fucking football game are privileged, ignorant assholes sheltered in a safe country. When they praise Biden leadership, they just ignore the wish of agonizing populations that are fucking tired of politics and just want to be able to live another day. 
  10. viktoria liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    Seriously, it made me sigh in disbelief lmaoo. I was 100% sure that ISIS was Daech (that's how we call it in France) but I had to double check if Hamas was also called like that in English. I couldn't comprehend why was ISIS suddenly on the table 
     
    It really shows you that people have absolutely little to no idea about what's happening in Middle East. I hate oversimplification and misinformation so much. 
  11. china doll liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
    Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
    Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
     
    Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 
  12. honeymo0n liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I obviously don't know what's on her mind but it's hard for me to believe she wouldn't condemn the killing of civilians if she knew the truth. Lana is out of touch, she's always been. Unless she shows true support for Israel, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. I don't think she has political or personal reason to do so anyway. It's not too far fetched to think she genuinely believes she's doing the right thing. When you're not informed, it's hard not to believe such massive propaganda.
  13. unidentified dragonslayer liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    If it can enlighten people as to why this letter is so criticized:
    It is mostly full of shit regarding the conflict. It's not only poorly worded but plain disgusting when you read between the lines.
    Of course it's a good thing to ask for the release of hostages and I sure hope all of them are safe and will soon go back to their family, unharmed.
     
    But:
    "Thank you for your unshakable moral conviction"
    I wouldn't qualify funding the bombing of civilians to be an unshakable moral conviction, but ok.
     
    "and for the Palestinians who have also been terrorized, oppressed, and victimized by Hamas"
    Totally shifting the Apartheid politics perpetuated by Israel on the enemy's side. It's a gross manipulation I can't overlook. Anyone with two brain cells and access to Internet can learn how Israel deported, murdered, jailed Palestinians and destroyed any of their infrastructures since late 40s.
    Also, Israel helped create Hamas in the 80s to politically destabilize Palestine and smother any Palestinian authority to face them. Just saying.
     
    "We all want the same thing: freedom for Israelis and Palestinians to live side by side in peace"
    I believe these celebs they do. But the government of Israel don't. None of their actions show a urge to make peace. Look up the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. 
    Or the shady stuff surrounding Marwan Barghouti. Some Palestinian politicians could have led a pacific government had Israel not throw a wrench in the gears.
     
    "And most urgently, in this moment, freedom for the hostages."
    The wounded in Gaza having no access to water or really any ressources to even survive are just as important. No mention of Palestinians being bombed without the possibility of escaping, as Israel is encircling them. They're literally in an open-air prison. Their fate isn't different from hostages.
     
    A true peace statement would call for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid. That letter is garbage.
  14. Nahime liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
    Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
    Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
     
    Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 
  15. cherrycolalime liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I agree with everything you've posted, but I have to add to that: Palestine is all innocent. Hamas might be tied to Palestine but it isn't Palestine. It's kinda like the IRA/Ireland: the actions of one group shouldn't condemn civilians... especially when Israel has the means to send troops instead of blindly bombing lands. They're deliberately choosing to kill innocents. 
     
    They're also currently bombing the West Bank despite Hamas having no ties to Jordanians. Basically, they're using the deaths of their own people as an excuse to further expand the occupation. 
     
    What makes me super mad about that letter, though, is that line about Hamas terrorizing Palestine for 15 years. What a way to twist the truth... Israel has been deporting and purging Palestine for 70 years now, but I guess it's not important in the slightest 
     
     
    Exactly. Every country defending Israel is just protecting their interest. It has nothing to do with the fact they're Jews or surviving children of the Shoah. They couldn't care less about that. If they were truly shocked and moved by genocide, they would have lifted a finger for the freedom of Palestine long ago.
     
    Those hypocrites also would have welcomed Jews when they needed a place the most (Palestine wasn't even the promise land... Many Jews back in the day sought refuge in America, but were drove back because no one wanted them. It was apparently easier to give them a piece of land Western countries didn't truly own.)
     
    Also, friendly reminder that not every Jew is pro-Israel and even not every Israeli is pro-Israel (in the sense they're not ok with their government's decisions) just like not every Palestinian is pro-Hamas. All those civilians, whether they're from Israel or Palestine, mostly want peace. They're all victims of the actions of their own government, and that's what's so tragic. 
     
    All those celebs picking sides like it's a fucking football game are privileged, ignorant assholes sheltered in a safe country. When they praise Biden leadership, they just ignore the wish of agonizing populations that are fucking tired of politics and just want to be able to live another day. 
  16. viktoria liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
    Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
    Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
     
    Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 
  17. marinasrep liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I'm a little sad and annoyed but honestly ? Not surprised at all. She's always been ignorant. I hate to be reminded of that, but she did write QFTC and she did date that awful cop (among other stuff).
     
    Most of the time, her heart probably is in the right place but you obviously can't do good if you're not informed enough. 
     
    I wouldn't be surprised she has no clue about the situation in Palestine and just saw there was hostages and went with the narrative pushed by the pro-Israel propaganda. 
     
     

    Still can't like posts but I would if I could. 
  18. LemonadeTea liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I agree with everything you've posted, but I have to add to that: Palestine is all innocent. Hamas might be tied to Palestine but it isn't Palestine. It's kinda like the IRA/Ireland: the actions of one group shouldn't condemn civilians... especially when Israel has the means to send troops instead of blindly bombing lands. They're deliberately choosing to kill innocents. 
     
    They're also currently bombing the West Bank despite Hamas having no ties to Jordanians. Basically, they're using the deaths of their own people as an excuse to further expand the occupation. 
     
    What makes me super mad about that letter, though, is that line about Hamas terrorizing Palestine for 15 years. What a way to twist the truth... Israel has been deporting and purging Palestine for 70 years now, but I guess it's not important in the slightest 
     
     
    Exactly. Every country defending Israel is just protecting their interest. It has nothing to do with the fact they're Jews or surviving children of the Shoah. They couldn't care less about that. If they were truly shocked and moved by genocide, they would have lifted a finger for the freedom of Palestine long ago.
     
    Those hypocrites also would have welcomed Jews when they needed a place the most (Palestine wasn't even the promise land... Many Jews back in the day sought refuge in America, but were drove back because no one wanted them. It was apparently easier to give them a piece of land Western countries didn't truly own.)
     
    Also, friendly reminder that not every Jew is pro-Israel and even not every Israeli is pro-Israel (in the sense they're not ok with their government's decisions) just like not every Palestinian is pro-Hamas. All those civilians, whether they're from Israel or Palestine, mostly want peace. They're all victims of the actions of their own government, and that's what's so tragic. 
     
    All those celebs picking sides like it's a fucking football game are privileged, ignorant assholes sheltered in a safe country. When they praise Biden leadership, they just ignore the wish of agonizing populations that are fucking tired of politics and just want to be able to live another day. 
  19. fishtails liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    If it can enlighten people as to why this letter is so criticized:
    It is mostly full of shit regarding the conflict. It's not only poorly worded but plain disgusting when you read between the lines.
    Of course it's a good thing to ask for the release of hostages and I sure hope all of them are safe and will soon go back to their family, unharmed.
     
    But:
    "Thank you for your unshakable moral conviction"
    I wouldn't qualify funding the bombing of civilians to be an unshakable moral conviction, but ok.
     
    "and for the Palestinians who have also been terrorized, oppressed, and victimized by Hamas"
    Totally shifting the Apartheid politics perpetuated by Israel on the enemy's side. It's a gross manipulation I can't overlook. Anyone with two brain cells and access to Internet can learn how Israel deported, murdered, jailed Palestinians and destroyed any of their infrastructures since late 40s.
    Also, Israel helped create Hamas in the 80s to politically destabilize Palestine and smother any Palestinian authority to face them. Just saying.
     
    "We all want the same thing: freedom for Israelis and Palestinians to live side by side in peace"
    I believe these celebs they do. But the government of Israel don't. None of their actions show a urge to make peace. Look up the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. 
    Or the shady stuff surrounding Marwan Barghouti. Some Palestinian politicians could have led a pacific government had Israel not throw a wrench in the gears.
     
    "And most urgently, in this moment, freedom for the hostages."
    The wounded in Gaza having no access to water or really any ressources to even survive are just as important. No mention of Palestinians being bombed without the possibility of escaping, as Israel is encircling them. They're literally in an open-air prison. Their fate isn't different from hostages.
     
    A true peace statement would call for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid. That letter is garbage.
  20. TRENCH liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
    Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
    Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
     
    Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 
  21. Disney Slut liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
    Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
    Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
     
    Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 
  22. lizzycobain liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I'm a little sad and annoyed but honestly ? Not surprised at all. She's always been ignorant. I hate to be reminded of that, but she did write QFTC and she did date that awful cop (among other stuff).
     
    Most of the time, her heart probably is in the right place but you obviously can't do good if you're not informed enough. 
     
    I wouldn't be surprised she has no clue about the situation in Palestine and just saw there was hostages and went with the narrative pushed by the pro-Israel propaganda. 
     
     

    Still can't like posts but I would if I could. 
  23. rabbit liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    If it can enlighten people as to why this letter is so criticized:
    It is mostly full of shit regarding the conflict. It's not only poorly worded but plain disgusting when you read between the lines.
    Of course it's a good thing to ask for the release of hostages and I sure hope all of them are safe and will soon go back to their family, unharmed.
     
    But:
    "Thank you for your unshakable moral conviction"
    I wouldn't qualify funding the bombing of civilians to be an unshakable moral conviction, but ok.
     
    "and for the Palestinians who have also been terrorized, oppressed, and victimized by Hamas"
    Totally shifting the Apartheid politics perpetuated by Israel on the enemy's side. It's a gross manipulation I can't overlook. Anyone with two brain cells and access to Internet can learn how Israel deported, murdered, jailed Palestinians and destroyed any of their infrastructures since late 40s.
    Also, Israel helped create Hamas in the 80s to politically destabilize Palestine and smother any Palestinian authority to face them. Just saying.
     
    "We all want the same thing: freedom for Israelis and Palestinians to live side by side in peace"
    I believe these celebs they do. But the government of Israel don't. None of their actions show a urge to make peace. Look up the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. 
    Or the shady stuff surrounding Marwan Barghouti. Some Palestinian politicians could have led a pacific government had Israel not throw a wrench in the gears.
     
    "And most urgently, in this moment, freedom for the hostages."
    The wounded in Gaza having no access to water or really any ressources to even survive are just as important. No mention of Palestinians being bombed without the possibility of escaping, as Israel is encircling them. They're literally in an open-air prison. Their fate isn't different from hostages.
     
    A true peace statement would call for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid. That letter is garbage.
  24. how the light shines in liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    I obviously don't know what's on her mind but it's hard for me to believe she wouldn't condemn the killing of civilians if she knew the truth. Lana is out of touch, she's always been. Unless she shows true support for Israel, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. I don't think she has political or personal reason to do so anyway. It's not too far fetched to think she genuinely believes she's doing the right thing. When you're not informed, it's hard not to believe such massive propaganda.
  25. cherrytropico liked a post in a topic by Mash Tragic in Lana signed an open letter to President Joe Biden, thanking him for his ‘leadership’ and calling for the release of all Hamas hostages.   
    If it can enlighten people as to why this letter is so criticized:
    It is mostly full of shit regarding the conflict. It's not only poorly worded but plain disgusting when you read between the lines.
    Of course it's a good thing to ask for the release of hostages and I sure hope all of them are safe and will soon go back to their family, unharmed.
     
    But:
    "Thank you for your unshakable moral conviction"
    I wouldn't qualify funding the bombing of civilians to be an unshakable moral conviction, but ok.
     
    "and for the Palestinians who have also been terrorized, oppressed, and victimized by Hamas"
    Totally shifting the Apartheid politics perpetuated by Israel on the enemy's side. It's a gross manipulation I can't overlook. Anyone with two brain cells and access to Internet can learn how Israel deported, murdered, jailed Palestinians and destroyed any of their infrastructures since late 40s.
    Also, Israel helped create Hamas in the 80s to politically destabilize Palestine and smother any Palestinian authority to face them. Just saying.
     
    "We all want the same thing: freedom for Israelis and Palestinians to live side by side in peace"
    I believe these celebs they do. But the government of Israel don't. None of their actions show a urge to make peace. Look up the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. 
    Or the shady stuff surrounding Marwan Barghouti. Some Palestinian politicians could have led a pacific government had Israel not throw a wrench in the gears.
     
    "And most urgently, in this moment, freedom for the hostages."
    The wounded in Gaza having no access to water or really any ressources to even survive are just as important. No mention of Palestinians being bombed without the possibility of escaping, as Israel is encircling them. They're literally in an open-air prison. Their fate isn't different from hostages.
     
    A true peace statement would call for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid. That letter is garbage.
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