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@American Whore do you know how many gay Muslims there are in this world? Do they not also deserve peace? Should that peace not extend to Palestinians as a whole? 
 
Currently in Palestine, a gay person is 100% more likely to be killed by an airstrike than by homophobic civilians. 

@American Whore This is not a “hive mind” or “group think” situation where people are blindly following an opinion that’s popular for the sake of social capital or maintaining a status quo…given the history of the state of Israel and its violent occupation of Gaza, there is a genocide going on and people are naturally going to be outspoken against that. It’s not uncritical to be critical of Israel, in fact, we’ve seen that the “hive mind” or “safer” stance in terms of maintaining the status quo is to support the oppressor - case in point, look at how many people have lost their careers simply for refusing to support a genocide. Normal people, at that. And nobody is endorsing anti-Semitism by supporting Palestine, the two are not mutually exclusive at all. To play contrarian in the face of people’s and children’s lives lost is beyond reductive, and these innocent civilians do not represent whatever “anti-LGBTQ” sentiments you’re talking about. People are not their governments - you could say the exact same thing about the US.
 
There’s no point in anyone even engaging with some of the points you’ve made if your mind is made up but I hope people’s responses to you make you think twice about doubling down. 

the worst type of people are the ones that justify the deaths of nearly 40,000 people and 15,000 CHILDREN, because a country "displays violence towards gays"
how did the children "fuck around and find out"? half of them cant even talk...
 

Yeah those 14,000 dead kids must have really fucked around to find out huh

Also, i find it kinda funny how much you have to say and how ready you are to give it your all and defend Israel when you don't even know how many people they murdered these past months lmao.

Now for everyone else in here who has more than 2 functioning braincells, it's important to note that the 36k death toll number is extremely inaccurate and hasn't been updated in months due to the destruction of the health sector and hospitals in gaza as well as the murder of the journalists who were reporting on it and the fact that several parts have become virtually inaccessible (eg; north gaza) due to the heavy bombardment.
The real numbers are probably much, much, MUCH worse.

Idk how you type this out and still think you're in the right. Genuinely a rotted individual. That's all I can really say about this cause arguing with someone who does not know what they're talking about and has no interest in looking up the history yet still wants to blabber on and make deranged statements really has no point.

i genuinely cannot believe people think this all started in 2023…like what? where have y’all been? 

people who dickride for such shithole ass backwards fucked up countries are so weird like i just KNOW some of you would've defended hitler lmfao god i hate yall

To be honest, this conflict did not start on Oct 7th, 2023. This goes all the way to 1948. Generations of Palestinians have been suffering ever since. Every decade there has been a conflict that became bigger and bigger whether it was in 1973 or now. But the thing is that Palestinians are still oppressed, for over 70 fucking years. 

They sure make a lot of "mistakes" for such an advanced military

ben follows orgs like Jewish Voice for Peace and ifnotnow and engaged posts advocating for Gaza so I don't think its them that's holding her back. I agree it feels stupid on her part to stay silent since she has propped herself up in the past to speak out especially having songs like Coachella,  or Looking for America. She even posted about Ukraine once. Taylor really never comments on politics besides the US election and she has a huge PR team as well as being in the middle of a major tour so it's less expected from her. a lot of lana's friends and people she works with are Palestinian or have been outspoken about this so it just feels weird. And after the massacre a few days ago I saw lots of posts coming from people I wasn't expecting--Jack, Aaron dessner, Finneas, Ariana grande, etc. this is just a huge tragedy in the world happening right now and the tides and public opinion really are turning and it would be really surprising if Lana was not a part of that

ben follows orgs like Jewish Voice for Peace and ifnotnow and engaged posts advocating for Gaza so I don't think its them that's holding her back. I agree it feels stupid on her part to stay silent since she has propped herself up in the past to speak out especially having songs like Coachella,  or Looking for America. She even posted about Ukraine once. Taylor really never comments on politics besides the US election and she has a huge PR team as well as being in the middle of a major tour so it's less expected from her. a lot of lana's friends and people she works with are Palestinian or have been outspoken about this so it just feels weird. And after the massacre a few days ago I saw lots of posts coming from people I wasn't expecting--Jack, Aaron dessner, Finneas, Ariana grande, etc. this is just a huge tragedy in the world happening right now and the tides and public opinion really are turning and it would be really surprising if Lana was not a part of that

ben follows orgs like Jewish Voice for Peace and ifnotnow and engaged posts advocating for Gaza so I don't think its them that's holding her back. I agree it feels stupid on her part to stay silent since she has propped herself up in the past to speak out especially having songs like Coachella,  or Looking for America. She even posted about Ukraine once. Taylor really never comments on politics besides the US election and she has a huge PR team as well as being in the middle of a major tour so it's less expected from her. a lot of lana's friends and people she works with are Palestinian or have been outspoken about this so it just feels weird. And after the massacre a few days ago I saw lots of posts coming from people I wasn't expecting--Jack, Aaron dessner, Finneas, Ariana grande, etc. this is just a huge tragedy in the world happening right now and the tides and public opinion really are turning and it would be really surprising if Lana was not a part of that

ben follows orgs like Jewish Voice for Peace and ifnotnow and engaged posts advocating for Gaza so I don't think its them that's holding her back. I agree it feels stupid on her part to stay silent since she has propped herself up in the past to speak out especially having songs like Coachella,  or Looking for America. She even posted about Ukraine once. Taylor really never comments on politics besides the US election and she has a huge PR team as well as being in the middle of a major tour so it's less expected from her. a lot of lana's friends and people she works with are Palestinian or have been outspoken about this so it just feels weird. And after the massacre a few days ago I saw lots of posts coming from people I wasn't expecting--Jack, Aaron dessner, Finneas, Ariana grande, etc. this is just a huge tragedy in the world happening right now and the tides and public opinion really are turning and it would be really surprising if Lana was not a part of that

SAY WHAT YOU WANT BUT SAY IT LIKE YOU MEAN IT 

ben follows orgs like Jewish Voice for Peace and ifnotnow and engaged posts advocating for Gaza so I don't think its them that's holding her back. I agree it feels stupid on her part to stay silent since she has propped herself up in the past to speak out especially having songs like Coachella,  or Looking for America. She even posted about Ukraine once. Taylor really never comments on politics besides the US election and she has a huge PR team as well as being in the middle of a major tour so it's less expected from her. a lot of lana's friends and people she works with are Palestinian or have been outspoken about this so it just feels weird. And after the massacre a few days ago I saw lots of posts coming from people I wasn't expecting--Jack, Aaron dessner, Finneas, Ariana grande, etc. this is just a huge tragedy in the world happening right now and the tides and public opinion really are turning and it would be really surprising if Lana was not a part of that

https://x.com/LDRaddic/status/1795901472883753462
Lana followed a douchefluencer on ig

ben follows orgs like Jewish Voice for Peace and ifnotnow and engaged posts advocating for Gaza so I don't think its them that's holding her back. I agree it feels stupid on her part to stay silent since she has propped herself up in the past to speak out especially having songs like Coachella,  or Looking for America. She even posted about Ukraine once. Taylor really never comments on politics besides the US election and she has a huge PR team as well as being in the middle of a major tour so it's less expected from her. a lot of lana's friends and people she works with are Palestinian or have been outspoken about this so it just feels weird. And after the massacre a few days ago I saw lots of posts coming from people I wasn't expecting--Jack, Aaron dessner, Finneas, Ariana grande, etc. this is just a huge tragedy in the world happening right now and the tides and public opinion really are turning and it would be really surprising if Lana was not a part of that

ben follows orgs like Jewish Voice for Peace and ifnotnow and engaged posts advocating for Gaza so I don't think its them that's holding her back. I agree it feels stupid on her part to stay silent since she has propped herself up in the past to speak out especially having songs like Coachella,  or Looking for America. She even posted about Ukraine once. Taylor really never comments on politics besides the US election and she has a huge PR team as well as being in the middle of a major tour so it's less expected from her. a lot of lana's friends and people she works with are Palestinian or have been outspoken about this so it just feels weird. And after the massacre a few days ago I saw lots of posts coming from people I wasn't expecting--Jack, Aaron dessner, Finneas, Ariana grande, etc. this is just a huge tragedy in the world happening right now and the tides and public opinion really are turning and it would be really surprising if Lana was not a part of that

ben follows orgs like Jewish Voice for Peace and ifnotnow and engaged posts advocating for Gaza so I don't think its them that's holding her back. I agree it feels stupid on her part to stay silent since she has propped herself up in the past to speak out especially having songs like Coachella,  or Looking for America. She even posted about Ukraine once. Taylor really never comments on politics besides the US election and she has a huge PR team as well as being in the middle of a major tour so it's less expected from her. a lot of lana's friends and people she works with are Palestinian or have been outspoken about this so it just feels weird. And after the massacre a few days ago I saw lots of posts coming from people I wasn't expecting--Jack, Aaron dessner, Finneas, Ariana grande, etc. this is just a huge tragedy in the world happening right now and the tides and public opinion really are turning and it would be really surprising if Lana was not a part of that

The thing is the letter doesn't even exist anymore it's obviously something her managers attached her to without knowing what it was. I've said this before on this thread but if she was is a zionist it invalidates everything she stands for, especially with her art. Yes I find it infuriating that she's been silent and I really do hope she eventually does speak out about it. If Jack did I don't see what would stop her tbh. And I agree that we should direct our anger to governments instead but at the end of the day, celebrities do unfortunately hold influence. Even swifties are beginning to crack down on Taylor after the recent tragedies in Rafah and honest to god I hope it works especially with the current Eras show in Spain where they're very vocal about it. I know its not any sort of confirmation but I have a feeling in my gut that Lana doesn't stand for whatever Isnotreal stands for, it simply doesn't make sense given the person she is. 

The pin represented a call for a ceasefire though, and she wore it during her Oscar speech which was one of the biggest moments of her career. I know that it’s the bare minimum but at least she did something. Even if you don’t want to use Billie as an example, there is Melanie Martinez who is in the middle of an arena tour and about to headline a major festival. She is always posting about Palestine. 

Jack Antonoff is Jewish and even he posted about Rafah.