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I hope they become friends again.
 

I want her to collab with Billie and Melanie (and not the others). I think all three (LDR, Billie, Melanie) all have unique approaches to music and art that would be wonderful if combined.

Still waiting for the day this thread will be updated 

it's been ten years and i'm still trying to figure out who K is

(i mentioned this in another thread) does anybody else feel like "bel air" could be alluding to "k" or whoever this mysterious dead boyfriend figure is? something which i feel like stands out is the lyric "i know your name", i thought of "k" when i heard this lyric because obviously nobody really knows his name, except for her, & obviously the heavenly/afterlife themes in the song would also fit this theory

shes the most interesting lady ever and youre right we really won't know until she decides to share.. there are just so much interesting stuff about rob that keeps me going back to him.. being her opposite zodiac sign (capricorn), his favorite holiday being the 4th of july, him being involved with music too, his affinity for the moon. its so fun to speculate!!

To echo the talk about K, I’ve actually always thought he was a real, living person! 
 
There is the obvious reference to him in the two “For K” tracks, but I believe the story about his death. For one, the entire record being called Born to Die is even more chilling when you add that piece to the whole pie. Lana has said before that it’s in reference to how her existence was overshadowed by awareness of her own mortality as a child — which was fleetingly eased upon experiencing true love — but given the subject matter of songs like the title track, Blue Jeans, Video Games, Dark Paradise, and Summertime Sadness, it really seems like there was a literal loss and Lana is reconciling these worlds of love and death. 

I think the “K” trilogy of BTD, BJ, and VG is interesting, though, because we know VG’s verses are about Josh, but the choruses are about how she wished things went with someone else (and perhaps she can only wish, because he’s no longer here). BJ suggests a tumultuous road, the result of which sees Lana vow to love him till the end of time (perhaps in a way that honours someone whose spirit lives on in your memories, in your heart, etc.). And BTD is the thesis statement that precedes these two tracks — the first verse sees Lana touch upon the afterlife, where she hopes she’ll be reunited with him. 
 
I also found it telling that in a 2012 interview, Lana was asked if the boy in question knew about these songs, to which she replied “he doesn’t know — his mother knows.” I’ll put it in the spoiler below. 
 

Now, Josh has never really fallen out of contact with Lana (as we have seen photos of them together around the early 2000s, in 2009, in 2011, in 2012, Lana posted about his engagement in 2018, and Josh has posted several times about how he inspired Video Games) — so I really do think that this person’s fate as described in Lana’s songs is legitimate and true.
 
But alas, I think this will remain one of the most elusive Lana mysteries unless she herself opens up about it. It’s her story to tell, and if she does choose to tell it, I know it’ll be insightful and moving. 

apropos Kurt Cobain, in Wildflower Wildfire she refers"lithium", which is also a song by Nirvana. Lithium is used medically to treat bipolar disorder, and maybe that's why she feels so connected to him.
 

My timeline:
 
K: 1999-2004, 2004 spent in Alabama
Van Wilson: A&R 5 points, 2006 met him at the WLSC 2006, probably a short fling.
Jimmy G: 2007/2008. I think it was also platonic, and more driven from Lana's side. Probably covered the period she was at the trailer park in NJ
Mike M: Met him first for the interview at Arlene's Grocery in February 2009. With him for 2009, and early 2010 (dated by tweets), but I guess he did not want her to pursue her music anymore, and they broke up (lyrics of Afraid really encapsulate their break-up). The guy rebounded quickly to the woman he got married to in October 2010. I think many of her songs deal with this relationship and the break-up.
 
Reeve Carney, can't place him in the timeline, maybe 2008 after JG.
 
I don't think Lana has had many relationships. She has said in multiple interviews that in real life she is very quiet, lonely, does not talk much, and therefore continues to feel very strongly about her main relationships (K and MM), because few people really understand her. I think the rings she wears is significant, particularly the one that covers both fingers, because I guess that indicates her eternal feelings for two men. I just hope she can move on at some point, and find someone (I hate thinking of her lonely and alone), although any boyfriend would have to learn to live with the ghosts of two people in the room, K and MM.

@Sam Gho, I think she tries desperately to find someone who'll understand her and fill the emptiness she feels, know who she is and what's going on in her head and heart. As you said she's a shy and lonely person, she need someone else to make her feel enthousiast, excited and "electric". She keeps holding on these memories because of that even though these relationships were far from being perfect or healthy.

Welcome to LANALYSIS, where we get real unhealthy in our obsessions and absolutely revel in it.

This is a project I've been maintaining for a while now--Lana + Analysis...get it? The basic purpose is to relate every one of her songs (that's right, every last one of them) to her known and assumed relationships. Not a stone is left unturned. Privacy is violated. The fans rejoice. Mind you, it’s all pure speculation, but ~this is what makes us stans~

It’s pretty long but an interesting read, if I do say so myself. I hope you enjoy it in all it’s updated glory, and I will continue to update as new information is revealed and new songs come out. I will also be adding pictures, sources, etc. Stay tuned!

Let’s get started!



EARLY RELATIONSHIPS (1985 - ~2005)



LOCAL ROCKSTARS (~2005 - 2009)



YOU MADE ME NICE FOR A WHILE (2009 - 2011)



POST-BREAKTHROUGH (2011+)



IN THE LAND OF DISCREPANCIES



ADVANCED LANALYSIS



IN SUMMARY..

Lingering questions…
- Who the fuck is K?
- Who the fuck is Ray?
- Who the fuck is Bill? Is Bill really K? Does Bill matter at all?
- What significance do cars play? She mentions eight in total (white Corvette, white Pontiac, blue Chevy Nova/Chevrolet, Cadillac convertible, Mercedes, pickup truck, Lamborghini, Bugatti Veyron)
- When was she/who was she with in New York City and New Jersey? Ditto LA? Most mysterious and pressing, her time in the South?
- Did she have a fling with Bradley Soileau?
- Did Chris C. matter enough to her for her to write songs about him?

Assumptions Made:
- Lana was a gogo dancer.
- K is a drug dealer/murderer, dead or on death row.
- Jimmy is her ex-fiancé, addicted to cocaine despite a Wikipedia page stressing how healthy he is, associated with Chevrolets.
- Much of Sirens is about completely different relationships.
- She fucked Bradley.
- Mike controlled her career but their relationship wasn’t associated with anything fucked up like drugs or stripping.


Thanks for reading! I crave both your feedback and theories! This remains a forum collaboration and I don't claim to have the final say on Lanalytical manners.

For the sake of believability, I'm always hunting receipts, and currently:
- The interview where she refers to "Yayo" as the prequel to "Video Games"
- The interview where she describes "Video Games" as dealing with mutual sobriety in a relationship--her and her partner both staying clean.
- The interview where she talks about meeting her boyfriend in rehab and being dazzled by his small-scale celebrity.

i totally agree. i think the take on axl rose is interesting and it’s possible, however, it does give this heavenly, utopian feel to it. the first time i listened to it i instantly thought of going into heaven. the children’s laughter also adds more of that heavenly feeling to it. it’s such a beautiful song, and i totally agree that she could’ve been inspired by axl rose, but there was something else that really drove the song. i went to bel air briefly a few months ago and it reminded me of the song. coincidently, i saw roses as well. it was such a fun, calming feeling. 

that's possible, it's a cool way to interpret it, but i just can't imagine that she'd make a song that's so emotionally rich that feels so reminiscent of this afterlife/heavenly feel about somebody who she either just really admired or had a fling with, but only lana would know, also, considering the fact that she's never performed it makes me feel like it's a song she's sensitive about, like lucky ones and quite a few tracks off of honeymoon, also, the sounds of the children laughing, it gives it a heavenly, utopian feel, so whether the song is just about axl rose, or something more deep, i think the heavenly vibe is intentional, maybe it's about different things and different people, she could've been inspired by axl rose or her surroundings in bel air, but it could be more

bel air (imo) is almost undoubtedly about axl rose 
 
for starters, he lives in bel air and used to drive (he might still drive it but idk) a vintage chevy bel air. and then the song also has references to guns and roses:
 
"sweet child of mine, you're divine" - sweet child of mine is a hit song by guns n' roses, the band axl is in 
 
"idol of roses, iconic soul" - imo this is a reference to axl's band and how it's iconic to her and to the music world
 
i think the chorus is just about lana driving through bel air at night (the spotlight, etc, being her headlights - also makes sense because she talks about palm trees late at night and bel air is full of palm trees) - lana def purposefully used wording that brings about a heavenly/afterlife sort of vibe w lines like "walk in the way of my soft resurrection" but i think she was just comparing a fun little fling to heaven - the song could be interpreted diff but i think objectively it makes sense that it's about axl - also i can't find it but i'm almost 100% sure i saw a pic on social media years ago of axl rose's bel air home and he actually had gargoyle statues by his gate to his home which confirmed it to me - i can't find the pic now but i remember it vividly

I do wonder how that ordeal with Interscope during the UV recording process impacted her relationship with them and how much say they have over what the final product sounds like. It's nice to think she has complete control over the material and what gets released but that isn't the majority in a lot of cases with major labels.
 
Could definitely be argued they had her re-work Lust For Life, given the demo versions.

I don't really know where to post this, so it's here, but mods if you can find the right place, help a twink out? This article just came out, before the new Black Keys album releases tomorrow and Dan talks about working on UV and being open to working with Lana again in the future. 
 
Here's what was said and I'll link the article here as well:
 

I made it my status, but do people still want an LDR x Marina collab? I think an EH or Froot-era Marina collab would be cute..

Tommy Genesis is a woman..???

some tasteless fad is not an excuse to shit on melanie’s name y’all better put some respect 

poor tommy she has to put up with lana wanting revenge for sotb 😭

None, this is 2022 not 2014

It's still on Tubi for me, maybe it's just a regional thing? https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/462977
 
YouTube playlists with all the episodes in good quality: 
 
S1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RGC844HbXU&list=PLaQSIBY1EHttcVv9alIw3kKJ87za2glBg
S2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jFdo9rn7M0&list=PLaQSIBY1EHtvlUrx675AH-MSVd297ZF57
S3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZzrGHO-73o&list=PLaQSIBY1EHttQ_8tiBWRJwtY-3Ow6rECr
S4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiojLXVFd2k&list=PLaQSIBY1EHtsuO1zGgkbWJ4jtxERWHrW1
S5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XReE0tvs_c&list=PLaQSIBY1EHttLJgTwVCkItClKwf1kr4ae
 
 

thank you so much !! to everyone who gave me recommendations- i really appreciate it 

me clocking into this thread a decade later to say so valid. popstar princess right here. like yes it’s trash but it’s not ?? idk

thank you so much, ily 
 
update/edit: they took it off of tubi and you have to pay on youtube (there are certain episodes uploaded though)

thank you so much !! to everyone who gave me recommendations- i really appreciate it