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NFR! Album Timeline (from what we can infer based on what Lana and Jack have said and conclusions made on LB!) Just thought it would be nice to compile all the info here
 
 
Early 2016 / 2017 re-work
The Next Best American Record 
- originally written and recorded for Lust for Life in 2016
- NFR version likely rewritten/rerecorded in 2017 with "Topanga lyrics" (in an interview with Zane Lowe on July 12, 2017, Lana stated that TNBAR was "all about Topanga")
 
February - March 2017
California
- written/produced with Zach Dawes while Lana had her side-band from December 2016 to March 2017
- additional production with Jack in 2018/2019
 
Late 2017
Bartender 
- written/produced with Rick Nowels prior to Jack's involvement 
- mentioned by Lana to Pitchfork at the Grammys on January 28, 2018 - regarded as "a weird track...[that] doesn't belong to an album yet"
 
Happiness is a Butterfly
- Rick is credited as a writer, so we can conclude that HiaB was in its early stages while Lana was primarily working with Rick
 
 
January 2018 - sessions with JACK ANTONOFF begin
At this point, The Next Best American Record, California, and Bartender are the first three songs "finished" for the album.
 
Love Song
- written the morning after the Clive Davis Party/the morning of the Grammys (January 28, 2018) with Jack in approx. an hour
- first song formally written for the album with Jack
 
Hope is a Dangerous Thing For a Woman Like Me to Have - But I Have it 
- journaled by Lana slowly over three years 
- same session as "Love Song" (January 28, 2018)
- recorded a cappella / subsequently accompanied by Jack on piano 
 
 
February - March 2018
Norman Fucking Rockwell
- confirmed as the third song written in an Instagram Live in the studio on September 4, 2019
- originally titled "Bird World"
- regarded as "the cliffnotes of the album" by Jack in an Instagram Live in the studio on September 4, 2019
 
Mariners Apartment Complex 
- confirmed as written at the same time/shortly after the title track in an Instagram Live in the studio on September 4, 2019
- referred to by Lana as what she hoped would be "at the heart of the record" in an Instagram Live on September 3, 2019
 
Venice Bitch
- confirmed as written at the same time/shortly after the title track and "Mariners Apartment Complex" in an Instagram Live in the studio on September 4, 2019
- title was used as a caption in an Instagram post of Lana's mural on a building in Venice, California on February 22, 2018
 
Happiness is a Butterfly
- first snippet posted by Lana on March 29, 2018
- marks Jack's involvement with the song since Lana and Rick starting it in 2017
 
September 2018
- in an interview with Zane Lowe on September 18, 2018 to premiere Venice Bitch, Lana confirms:
- the album is called Norman Fucking Rockwell
- at this point, it has 11 tracks
 
 
October 2018
Cinnamon Girl
- some lyrics written on October 3/4 2018 after Lana was "fucked up in Boston" (Instagram Live, September 4, 2019) along with "How to Disappear"
 
How to Disappear
- some lyrics written on October 3/4 2018 after Lana was "fucked up in Boston" (Instagram Live, September 4, 2019) along with "Cinnamon Girl"
- references "Joe," a boxer who Lana is presumed to have had a relationship with
- regarded as "the last song recorded" for NFR! by Lana at the Apple Event in Brooklyn, NY on October 30, 2018
 
November - December 2018
The Greatest
- references Lana's comments on Kanye West's Instagram post from September 30, 2018
- must have been recorded AFTER "How to Disappear" considering Lana's activity and references, and comments on/in the song.
- potentially "the last song" at one stage of mastering, as Lana confirmed the album was "finished" and "mastered" in an Instagram Live on December 30, 2018.
 
March - April 2019
Doin' Time
- recorded for the Sublime doc. produced by Interscope
- in an interview with Vogue Korea in May 2019, Lana stated that NFR! has 13 tracks, which would make sense if Doin' Time were the last song tacked onto the record at the time
- in an interview with 104.3 MYfm on August 28, 2019, Lana revealed that she wanted to include Doin' Time on the tracklist next to "Venice Bitch" a few days after finishing the track; this makes sense as "Fuck It, I Love You," which appears next to "Venice Bitch" in the tracklist instead, had likely not been recorded yet.
 
May - June 2019
Fuck It, I Love You
- regarded as the "last song" recorded for the album in an interview with Annie Mac on August 22, 2019
- the version that appears on physical copies of the record was likely finished and mastered in May 2019, as Lana stated in an interview with KROQ on August 29, 2019, that she has to have finished a record 90 days before the release date so the vinyl can be pressed in time
- the version that appears in the music video was likely finished in June 2019, as Lana stated in an interview with KROQ on August 29, 2019, that she "was definitely done [the record] in June, just putting some final touches on it" - the final touches likely being the added "surf drums." 

Uhm. Emile Haynie had a q&a on insta and someone’s asked him about his fav BTD song and Emile replied: „Without You is slept on. Unless you’re Taylor Swift.” We have to stan this man and wish he worked with Lana again. 

Leak the real one papi 

Even with the new lyrics, BAR remains one of her most captivating tracks sound wise

https://dbree.org/v/232089
 
amen yall 

imagine NFR losing AOTY to Ed Sheeran's fun with friends album   

White Hot Forever sound like these fake unreleased albums I've got. And I'm loving it.

She's noticed me on three other livestreams before since she follows me and answered my question about new additions for the then upcoming setlist for LATTM, so I'll try to ask her some things (might re-ask the setlist question).. what things should I ask?? x

I was a rose in the rose garden in national anthem, it was such an experience

I don't like rich people. Especially rich people who think their wealth makes them better than other people.

I was the missile in The Next Best Am... Oh wait, White Mustang

i was the butterfly in HIAB mv but win edwards stepped on me behind the scenes that's why she's not releasing that video

haha you not a real fan? girl i've never bought anything from lana, not a cd, album, merch, tickets, i even have pirated streaming services because i can't afford them
 
but i guess i need to "hush x" because i am poor
 
im really happy for everyone who can afford things, enjoy your life, I would too, but dont look down on people who can't. I actually have enough money rn because i got college scolarship and i can buy everything from nfr but i know damn well i shouldn't because i will need that money for rent, food and books when uni starts. so don't tell me to hush bitch you dont know my life

ooo look at me i go to every single lana concert she does i am her biggest fan and if you dont spend thousands yearly then dont even THINK of calling yourself a fan bla bla 
 
Congratulations. Here's the praise you wanted sir

Much like my old Timeline of LFL songs thread, I will be attempting to create a very rough and questionable (at times) list going in chronological order of the creation of songs on NFR. Of course, we only know about when a handful of songs were written so this is kind of messy.
 
Early 2015 - November 2016:
The Next Best American Record [Lana mentions "you did it all for fame" being the title track of the album to a leaker in November 2016, putting the songs recording to about early to mid 2016.] Sylvia Plath [Lana talks about the history of this song in an interview saying she fine tuned it's lyrics over 3 years, giving a rough estimate of the song's beginnings around this time.] March 2017 - July 2017:
Mariners Apartment Complex [Pure speculation, but Lana talked about this song noting it was written after a guy she was seeing made a comment she didn't like. We know she's been with Chase since early 2018 meaning the guy before that would've been G-Eazy, which puts this song around the time of their fling. Would also make sense since it contains a Yosemite lyric]  
December 2017 - January 2018:
Bartender [Lana first mentions having done this track at an awards show but not having an album to stick it to at that moment. It was recorded with Rick before Jack's entrance into the album] Love Song [Lana spoke about going to record this song with Jack at his studio the day after reconnecting with him (January 29th, 2018)] January 2018 - February 2018: 
Sylvia Plath (First Recording?) [Lana has also mentioned recording a song with a Jack that she had written. It's unknown if this was the first time Hope was recorded] March 2018:
Norman Fucking Rockwell [Lana mentioned in September 2018 that she got the title track of the record down in March.] Happiness is a Butterfly [Lana posts the first very rough sounding snippet of HIAB in late March, giving a good estimate of the recording happening either that day or that week.] October 2018 - January 2019:
How to Disappear [Lana first teased this track on her Instagram with it's piano demo in October, which gives it's recording date around that time. The song can then be heard being worked on in a livestream done by Del Rey which featured Jack in January 2019. Lana also stated it was the last song recorded for the album in an interview taking place in December 2018, though that was before she went back and added more to the record.] February 2019 - April 2019:
Fuck It, I Love You [The last song recorded, we know it was around this time due to the information  below on Doin' Time] Doin' Time [Recorded around this time, Lana has said it was done just as the album was finished. To which she went back and re-did the tracklist to include it.] Tracks I really can't determine:
California [since it was with a different producer, we really have nothing to go off of to determine it's recording date.]
The Greatest [Anytime after January 29th, 2018. Since that was the first day she worked with Jack. Mentions of Hawaii missing the fireball could denote it's writing taking place around January 2018, though the Kanye west fiasco didn't happen until October.]
Venice Bitch [Anytime after January 29th, 2018. Since that was the first day she worked with Jack]
 
Again, this is based on loose information. We know how Lana is with dates and stuff, plus songs can go through many many different variations and demos and could've been sat on for years, like Hope was, until it gets re-done.

Here's the LFL timeline thread if you wanna check that out:
http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/9444-lust-for-life-timeline-of-song-creations/&do=findComment&comment=555930

some of you may know me as SunChild... but my real name? My true identity?
 
Stingy... Bitter... Bitch !

my neighbors will be listening to the same 14 songs from now on 

Satan is holding a spot for you in the 9th circle of hell
 
(all love x)

Okay everyone, I see you.

 

Just know I really am doing my hardest to be on top of things the best I can right now. It may not look like it, but I really am. That's why I had to snap up from my recovery and heavily attend to the site yesterday, and will be doing so intently from this moment on. I understand your frustrations of the site being understaffed, and I will look into adding some additional mods, especially since traffic will be heavy. For everyone who has been facing issues prior to this, I apologise. I really am going through something very serious and I am both physically and mentally unwell. I do my best to do what I can, but at this very moment in time it is hard considering I haven't even left my room in weeks and even the simplest of everyday tasks such as eating or moving around has become an immense struggle. 

 

LanaBoards is always in my mind throughout all of this though, and I will be doing my best to attend to it the best I can midst my recovery. I know some of you are frustrated about mod queues and banishments, and there are always solutions. First, I should remind you all that the LanaBoards Rules are always present under the Help & Support section to review at any time. Additionally, any members who joined after I became the owner were given a link to the Rules & Posting Guide in their Welcome PM to review before beginning to post. You all know and have known asking for & linking leaks is against the rules, we go through this every album cycle. Unreleased leaks are treated a bit differently, but we take Officially Released Content leaks very seriously. Not only that, but the rules still stand after the album is released too. This is a LEGAL issue. It is ILLEGAL to host or share any unauthorized links to content that is officially released for purchase or streaming. LanaBoards is NOT a hub for illegal activity. This is a piracy issue. I have to always take steps to protect the site as I can. Also, someone made a good point in an earlier post that this site is free for you all. I do not charge you all anything to be members, and pay for all of the costs myself, willingly, because I want you all to have a fun and safe environment to discuss our favourite artist. Again, I do the best I can, but I cannot deny that it is especially hard for me at this point in time.

Due to my health status, I am on a medical leave from my full-time job, so I will have more time to attend to LanaBoards, especially during this tumultuous time leading up to the album release. As I said earlier, I will also look into on boarding additional staff.

 

A note about those warned and banned, those who were banned have reached out. I will be communicating with them to review their situation and see if a compromise can be found. But again, after this point, there WILL be no exceptions. I feel like I shouldn't have to remind you all of the rules every time an album release comes around as the Rules are always up to review, and it is just common sense.. again this isn't just a LanaBoards rule, this is a LAW. Piracy. C'mon guys. You should know better. LanaBoards is a source for DISCUSSION, not for illegal activity. I have to protect the site, as I am the one who hosts and pays for it to continue to run, and am therefore at the forefront of core responsibility.

Also, I do advise everyone to use spoilers if you're sharing content about the album for the benefit of other users who want this to continue to be a safe space to share hype about the album during this pre-release stage. If you are on mobile or unable to use the spoiler button, the format is as follows WITHOUT SPACES:

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Again, I am sorry for all the frustration that is occurring, but trust me when I say I am doing my best despite all the heaviness happening in my personal life. This community is like a family to me and I have so much love for you all. I'm sorry for any disappointment I have caused, and we will do better xx

i thought I'd never... EVER say this but, what if someone reaches Win Edwards? He's her friend

Can't believe we all live in NZ here

The snippets on clyp all together!
 
https://clyp.it/dj5g4qoi