shady 3,752 Posted August 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, bornfree said: Guys, a question: when lana launched a.k.a, was the stage name she used lana del rAy or lizzy grant? I think it was Lizzy Grant but was planning to transition to Lana Del Ray hence the name of the album. I remember being so confused with Ray when organizing my mp3 files. 2 Quote I'm fucking crazy, but I'm free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamesss 3,818 Posted August 11, 2022 guys why is she crying https://ibb.co/F6qkwRj 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
venicebitch 14,585 Posted August 11, 2022 26 minutes ago, jamesss said: guys why is she crying https://ibb.co/F6qkwRj shes not, its photoshopped 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanaismamom 11,577 Posted September 8, 2022 was cola really recorded in september 2011? and do u consider 4th of july as a separate song or as a concept demo for put me in a movie 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 207,204 Posted September 8, 2022 4 hours ago, lanaismamom said: was cola really recorded in september 2011? and do u consider 4th of july as a separate song or as a concept demo for put me in a movie i don’t think we know cola’s recording date, it’s possible she could’ve conceptualized it in late 2011, but i think the album version was probably recorded at some point in 2012 i consider 4th of july as a separate song, it just happens to sample the put me in a movie early mix 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanaismamom 11,577 Posted September 13, 2022 what is that Cola with monologue, is that a different version or its fanmade and an actual song and monologue with cola instrumental are separate things 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 48 Posted September 16, 2022 Recently I toured Sun Studio in Memphis, Tennessee. This is famously where Elvis got his start and recorded all of his first hits (as well as Johnny Cash, Roy Orbison, etc). The whole studio is really small, pretty much just one room, but totally steeped in music history. Anyway, the guide was talking about all of the artist who have recorded there over the years and name dropped none other than our girl. Does anybody know what Lana recorded there? When I searched it, I see that Lana toured Sun and Graceland a few years ago but I didn’t find any info on music she recorded there. I guess I should have asked the guide but a lot of people were chatting him up after the tour and I figured he probably wouldn’t know. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niandra lades 2,455 Posted September 20, 2022 wait what is this?? 2 Quote last.fm: dope_n_diamonds // twitter: lovinglydelrey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tropico Angel 2,103 Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, niandra lades said: wait what is this?? This I think 2 Quote Everytime I try to fly, I fall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluechemtrails 28,729 Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, niandra lades said: wait what is this?? found two others with higher BMI work ids (higher than e.g. IYLDWM): who's Bubblegum Boyfriend? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrettyPartyFav0r 106 Posted September 25, 2022 Help! I have several questions. Sorry! Was Lizzy Grant and The Phenomena before The Rich Whores and do we have a date of when the transition happened? Was there a reason? What is the difference? The ReverbNation page for Lizzy Grant and The Phenomena said, " Members: Lizzy Grant- Vocals, Arthur Lynn- Guitar, Aaron Brooks- Drums, Drew Martelli- Bass Guitar, Tags- Drums, Tim- Bass Guitar." When Lizzy's myspace url was therichwhores the band line-up was Arthur Lynn on guitar, Aaron Brooks for drums, Drew Martelli as the bass guitarist, and Tags (Arthur Tagliamonte) as Percussion. Was the difference the band line-up? Also, I've seen the July 9th, 2007 performance at The Cutting Room being confused as both a Lizzy Grant and The Phenomena performance and The Rich Whores performance. Per ReverbNation it was a Lizzy Grant and The Phenomena performance. Is there a separate performance date listed as being The Rich Whores performance people are talking about? Where did the full length The Rich Whores rehearsal session recordings of “Brite Lites,” “Disco,” and “Yayo” happen? Was it the same date and location as the snippets of “Disco,” “Brite Lites,” “Yayo,” “Me & My Boyfriend,” and “It’s Not You, It’s Just Me,” performed live with The Rich Whores? Does the studio version of "Me & My Boyfriend" that was produced by Kahne feature The Rich Whores or was it only Lana? Is The Phenomena of Lizzy Grant mixtape a Lizzy Grant and The Phenomena mixtape? Thank you in advance! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 207,204 Posted September 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Pr3ttyP4rtyFav0r said: Help! I have several questions. Sorry! Was Lizzy Grant and The Phenomena before The Rich Whores and do we have a date of when the transition happened? Was there a reason? What is the difference? The ReverbNation page for Lizzy Grant and The Phenomena said, " Members: Lizzy Grant- Vocals, Arthur Lynn- Guitar, Aaron Brooks- Drums, Drew Martelli- Bass Guitar, Tags- Drums, Tim- Bass Guitar." When Lizzy's myspace url was therichwhores the band line-up was Arthur Lynn on guitar, Aaron Brooks for drums, Drew Martelli as the bass guitarist, and Tags (Arthur Tagliamonte) as Percussion. Was the difference the band line-up? Also, I've seen the July 9th, 2007 performance at The Cutting Room being confused as both a Lizzy Grant and The Phenomena performance and The Rich Whores performance. Per ReverbNation it was a Lizzy Grant and The Phenomena performance. Is there a separate performance date listed as being The Rich Whores performance people are talking about? Where did the full length The Rich Whores rehearsal session recordings of “Brite Lites,” “Disco,” and “Yayo” happen? Was it the same date and location as the snippets of “Disco,” “Brite Lites,” “Yayo,” “Me & My Boyfriend,” and “It’s Not You, It’s Just Me,” performed live with The Rich Whores? Does the studio version of "Me & My Boyfriend" that was produced by Kahne feature The Rich Whores or was it only Lana? Is The Phenomena of Lizzy Grant mixtape a Lizzy Grant and The Phenomena mixtape? Thank you in advance! 1. i actually don’t know but i kinda feel like “the rich whores” came after? or maybe she used both of those names interchangeably? 2. perhaps? there’s only like 1 difference but it’s common for bands to have their members change over time 3. this is also something i don’t know because i always knew them as “the rich whores” and i would honestly consider both bands one in the same 4. all five of those tracks seem to be from the same rehearsal, i don’t know what day those were recorded, if you sleuth around the forums you may find more information 5. probably not 6. i would say, no, since the rich whores seem to be mid-2007 while this mixtape was created in early 2007 (january or february) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrettyPartyFav0r 106 Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) Thanks. It seems like some things we will never know for sure. I'll keep sleuthing but I think I've exhausted all leads. Maybe I'll look more into Arthur Lynn and angiescreams. I wish he hadn't deleted his blog. Ugh. One more question. Is it safe to say that songs exclusively The Rich Whores tracks are "It's Not You, It's Just Me" and "Me & My Boyfriend"? I know "Me & My Boyfriend" is considered an outtake of aka by some because of the confirmed studio version. The Rich Whores and Lizzy Grant/Lana Del Ray projects overlap... Hmmm. Frustrating. I found this in the Early Shows FAQ: "While she played a number of shows with the members of The Rich Whores/The Phenomena (a large portion of which comprised the line-up of angiescreams), the July 7, 2007 Cutting Room show was the only one billed as Lizzy Grant and the Phenomena, and only on their ReverbNation page. Every other show they played and every other reference to that show billed the band as Lizzy Grant. While a Jezebel Music write-up plugging her November 14, 2007 performance at Laila Lounge references "a full band, The Rich Whores", it does not appear the band shared billing." Edited September 26, 2022 by Pr3ttyP4rtyFav0r New information 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acid 980 Posted September 26, 2022 Does anyone know what this is referring to? https://ibb.co/JCZrY6v 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Venice Peach 54,665 Posted September 26, 2022 This is so nice and interesting @zombie girl Thanks for putting it all together. The only thing (which doesn't really change the order) is that I don't think IYLDWM was re recorded since the vocals sound really 2013/14 Lana. I guess they just added the outro and maybe subtle changes like the muted piano chords but we can't know for sure 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 207,204 Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Pr3ttyP4rtyFav0r said: Thanks. It seems like some things we will never know for sure. I'll keep sleuthing but I think I've exhausted all leads. Maybe I'll look more into Arthur Lynn and angiescreams. I wish he hadn't deleted his blog. Ugh. One more question. Is it safe to say that songs exclusively The Rich Whores tracks are "It's Not You, It's Just Me" and "Me & My Boyfriend"? I know "Me & My Boyfriend" is considered an outtake of aka by some because of the confirmed studio version. The Rich Whores and Lizzy Grant/Lana Del Ray projects overlap... Hmmm. Frustrating. I found this in the Early Shows FAQ: "While she played a number of shows with the members of The Rich Whores/The Phenomena (a large portion of which comprised the line-up of angiescreams), the July 7, 2007 Cutting Room show was the only one billed as Lizzy Grant and the Phenomena, and only on their ReverbNation page. Every other show they played and every other reference to that show billed the band as Lizzy Grant. While a Jezebel Music write-up plugging her November 14, 2007 performance at Laila Lounge references "a full band, The Rich Whores", it does not appear the band shared billing." i kinda would consider those two tracks “exclusively” from the rich whores sessions, even though there is a version recorded by arthur lynn (if you look through this thread you’ll also find another song about lizzy titled “dizzy”) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Coloringbooks 14,308 Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 3:02 AM, Pr3ttyP4rtyFav0r said: Thanks. It seems like some things we will never know for sure. I'll keep sleuthing but I think I've exhausted all leads. Maybe I'll look more into Arthur Lynn and angiescreams. I wish he hadn't deleted his blog. Ugh. One more question. Is it safe to say that songs exclusively The Rich Whores tracks are "It's Not You, It's Just Me" and "Me & My Boyfriend"? I know "Me & My Boyfriend" is considered an outtake of aka by some because of the confirmed studio version. The Rich Whores and Lizzy Grant/Lana Del Ray projects overlap... Hmmm. Frustrating. I found this in the Early Shows FAQ: "While she played a number of shows with the members of The Rich Whores/The Phenomena (a large portion of which comprised the line-up of angiescreams), the July 7, 2007 Cutting Room show was the only one billed as Lizzy Grant and the Phenomena, and only on their ReverbNation page. Every other show they played and every other reference to that show billed the band as Lizzy Grant. While a Jezebel Music write-up plugging her November 14, 2007 performance at Laila Lounge references "a full band, The Rich Whores", it does not appear the band shared billing." I consider The Phenomena/The Rich Whores to be "live-only" bands, if you get what I mean. Like they were Lizzy Grant shows, and she was simply performing with her backup band(s). On 9/26/2022 at 4:12 AM, zombie girl said: this is a very late reply, most of these we don’t know for sure but i’ve made some predictions Born to Die I believe the first song written was Diet Mountain Dew because we have demos of that song dating back to 2009–I don’t think there are demos that old for any of the other tracks. That also relates to me believing that the last song written was Summertime Sadness, because it’s the only Nowels song on the album that we don’t have a demo by a different producer for, and iirc Lana started working with Nowels pretty late during the making of Born to Die. The other songs he did for that album have earlier versions that were made with other producers, so those are likely older. Ultraviolence First one written for this album could be considered Old Money because it samples a demo Lana made all the way back in 2006, but technically I think it’s Black Beauty (but it could be Money Power Glory as well, Greg Kurstin mentioned that one was written very early in the album process and Lana didn’t know what direction she wanted to go with the album yet). Last one, again we have no idea, but it was probably Cruel World or Pretty When You Cry, they were likely only written a few days apart. All of the songs that were brought to Dan in January 2014 were written in fall 2013 besides Cruel World and Florida Kilos, which was written in 2012 with Harmony Korine for the Spring Breakers soundtrack. Pretty When You Cry was written in January 2014, but separate from the sessions with Dan (it was recorded at Electric Lady instead of Easy Eye). Cruel World was written once the sessions with Auerbach had already started that same month. I don’t believe we know which part of the month she was in New York, so it’s hard to tell which one came first. Norman Fucking Rockwell Bartender came first, Love Song was next, written in January 2018. Last song written was Fuck It I Love You in May-June 2019. Just adding onto this~ The earliest version of Diet Mountain Dew we have (Diet Mt. Dew Baby) was recorded in 2008 Methamphetamines/Meth Love that turned into Black Beauty is from 2009, not 2006 The first song written on NFR would actually be The Next Best American Record (2016) Also I think you're right about Money Power Glory being one of the older songs on UV. According to Honeymouns, it was going to be on a scrapped Tropico EP along with: Body Electric, Gods & Monsters, I Talk to Jesus, Black Beauty and Bel Air. 4 Quote ✧ I do it just to amuse me ✧ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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