Cherry Blossom 21,531 Posted February 24, 2022 just saw a video of a Ukrainian father kissing his daughter goodbye on twitter and it broke my heart. my heart hurts for the citizens of ukraine and i hope this doesn’t escalate to something even worse and is resolved quickly 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominikx4 25,404 Posted February 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Gorgeous Gardenia said: I'm not condoning this. I'm explaining the rationale and precedence here. I believe Ukraine deserves sovereignty. I also understand that its territories have been indistinguishably linked to Russia for over 400 years. I think Zelenskyy should put aside his pride, understand he is dealing with a dictator, and cease any aim for buddyship with U.S. through NATO if it means protecting his people. this is not about pride. you realize thats an admission of the west caving in, coming with all the possible implications for the future? so, next time putin doesnt get what he wants, he just invades another country, it worked so well last time? and other countries with batshit leaders are gonna follow suit. delusional 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgeous Gardenia 29 Posted February 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, House of Balloons said: i understand that you're not condoning the situation, but i just want to make it clear that being 'indistinguishably linked' to a land does not give you the right to invade it. this is the exact argument the zionists use to justify the israelian occupation. Alright, queen. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgeous Gardenia 29 Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dominikx4 said: this is not about pride. you realize thats an admission of the west caving in, coming with all the possible implications for the future? so, next time putin doesnt get what he wants, he just invades another country, it worked so well last time? and other countries with batshit leaders are gonna follow suit. delusional I suppose, but I don't personally see Putin as a tyrannical leader whose aim is world domination. I see him as a sad man trying to reassemble the vestiges of a lost Empire. Passivity may risk further expansion into those former territories, but I don't think it'll set a precedent at large. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Ink 5,906 Posted February 24, 2022 Those who start a war and bring death and hurt to others are always wrong. Always. 16 Quote Honey, you make me feel I'm invincible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalvaWHORE 34,006 Posted February 24, 2022 We might have some misunderstandings i suppose, but gorls, there are people DYING, there are literally innocent people got involved in this bullshit. Let's start there. 9 Quote @WHORE OF TROPICO ⇨ @SALVAWHORE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,175 Posted February 24, 2022 i think about everything that's been happening in the world in the past few years (covid-19, climate crisis, war & instability, prices rising, etc.) & it really feels like we're heading towards very dark times... i wonder if people who have lived through ww1, ww2, & the great depression, ever felt the same way when times were difficult? perhaps they did, maybe they still had hope, but it just feels like we're going past a point of no return... 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominikx4 25,404 Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gorgeous Gardenia said: I suppose, but I don't personally see Putin as a tyrannical leader whose aim is world domination. I see him as a sad man trying to reassemble the vestiges of a lost Empire. Passivity may risk further expansion into those former territories, but I don't think it'll set a precedent at large. a sad tyrant is still a tyrant, what kind of point are you trying to make? and yea right, let us all pretend china didnt wait for a situation like that to see what international reactions a possible invasion of Taiwan might provoke 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Movie 51,663 Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Surf Noir said: i think about everything that's been happening in the world in the past few years (covid-19, climate crisis, war & instability, prices rising, etc.) & it really feels like we're heading towards very dark times... i wonder if people who have lived through ww1, ww2, & the great depression, ever felt the same way when times were difficult? perhaps they did, maybe they still had hope, but it just feels like we're going past a point of no return... I think that that's a sentiment people have felt throughout all of history. I've been thinking about the past as well. The world in general to me sometimes seems like one giant dark time. And I feel like the point of no return was past years and years ago (although that's just me lol) Dark times in our world have happened before and, sadly, will most likely continue to do so. But I try to remember that other people have felt this way too. It's not much in terms of helpfulness, but it's something. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgeous Gardenia 29 Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dominikx4 said: a sad tyrant is still a tyrant, what kind of point are you trying to make? and yea right, let us all pretend china didnt wait for a situation like that to see what international reactions a possible invasion of Taiwan might provoke I'm not entirely in favor of nations involving themselves in foreign conflicts. U.S. intervention may only escalate the situation. As far as China goes, say what you will about Putin, but he isn't a genocidal maniac like Xi Ping. And similar sanctions should have been placed on China ages ago. But of course that ain't happening. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,175 Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Gorgeous Gardenia said: I'm not entirely in favor of nations involving themselves in foreign conflicts. U.S. intervention may only escalate the situation. As far as China goes, say what you will about Putin, but he isn't a genocidal maniac like Xi Ping. And sanctions should have been placed on China ages ago. But of course that ain't happening. his actions are still killing innocent people & putting their lives at danger, so...? 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
house of balloons 12,792 Posted February 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gorgeous Gardenia said: I see him as a sad man trying to reassemble the vestiges of a lost Empire. awwwww poor putin aww he misses his dear empire toy that fell apart a long time ago awww i guess we just have to give him ukraine, the entire world even, maybe then he would no longer feel sad :((( 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the ocean 67,601 Posted February 24, 2022 i wanna stay informed but i also feel sick reading and seeing all of this 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgeous Gardenia 29 Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Surf Noir said: his actions are still killing innocent people & putting their lives at danger, so...? War, for the purpose of its conquest, as brutal and as inhumane as it is, is a reality of the world. Ethnic cleansing is another story. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plastiscguy 63,437 Posted February 24, 2022 We are defending Putin now? 13 Quote My rose garden dreams set on fire by fiends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,175 Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Gorgeous Gardenia said: War, for the purpose of its conquest, as brutal and as inhumane as it is, is a reality of the world. Ethnic cleansing is another story. just because something is "the reality of the world" doesn't mean it's okay, there's 1000s of things that are the "reality of the world" which are harmful/negative to people/society, let's just let innocent people with lives, dreams, & families die because it's "just the way the world is" 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the ocean 67,601 Posted February 24, 2022 57 dead and 169 injured so far according to ukrainian television 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godsmonster 14,221 Posted February 24, 2022 also, i saw on Twitter but i have to record i’m that it’s true, that over 700 Russian citizens have been arrested for protesting the invasion 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rightofjupiter 16,591 Posted February 24, 2022 so, so, so sad for this violent world and for everyone suffering the effects of this war already 17 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrence Loves Me 72,692 Posted February 24, 2022 please don't be rude to this question but don't things like this happen all the time but it just isn't so public and spoken about? im confused as to why people are calling it a war? again please don't come for me i'm genuinly curious 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites