slang 1,532 Posted May 24, 2021 3 hours ago, evalionisameme said: Katy Perry is not a better technical singer, she’s throaty and off key and aren’t we at a point now where pop is a genre? All genres involve evolution which is why sub genres exist(this isn’t exclusive to pop) -baby one more time , like a virgin , thriller , boom clap are all pure pop songs Well yeah, you can identify it as a genre by attaching it to key exemplars that may (or may not) go out of date. I just think it's futile, because the definition of pop will change. And while I think Kendrick Lamar has a genre attached to him, that doesn't mean he can't be popular (or even classical). I mean I'm trying to be provocative because of the thread topic, but to classify things as pop when they are a certain way seems way less interesting (and frequently infuriatingly hard) than just saying it's a competition for popularity. Frank Zappa, the iconic non-conformist, said that the reason the music industry was worse during his end times (and possibly our times) was because people had strong expectations for what popular should be (without any talent to back it up). I suspect he thought genre stereotyping was kind of harmful, although it's impossible not to use genres to organize musical discussion. However, "popular" may have been the most damaging one with respect to ham-stringing artist creativity. first half only is relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZazEM8cgt0 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluebirdXO 7,679 Posted May 25, 2021 I don't think that I'll be listening to the album Spoiler Those three songs had a terrible effect on me and I don't think that I can handle more of this. My muscles were so tense that I needed 2 massage sessions to relieve it, the bruxism is almost gone by now but it still sucks. And I also don't want to keep unpacking forgotten memories and feeling guilty by them. Spoiler I talked about this many times since the songs dropped, but really, nothing ever has made me feel like that. I also never voiced any past trauma. I was sent to therapy 4 times while growing up and I never talked about my mom or my childhood. Not even to my friends or even my father and my grandmother But I won't leave the pre-release thread. I'm really curious about her plans for the record 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HighbytheSea 4,790 Posted May 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, BluebirdXO said: I don't think that I'll be listening to the album Hide contents Those three songs had a terrible effect on me and I don't think that I can handle more of this. My muscles were so tense that I needed 2 massage sessions to relieve it, the bruxism is almost gone by now but it still sucks. And I also don't want to keep unpacking forgotten memories and feeling guilty by them. Hide contents I talked about this many times since the songs dropped, but really, nothing ever has made me feel like that. I also never voiced any past trauma. I was sent to therapy 4 times while growing up and I never talked about my mom or my childhood. Not even to my friends or even my father and my grandmother But I won't leave the pre-release thread. I'm really curious about her plans for the record Oh sweet soul, I'm so sorry your travels have been so dark. It sounds awful and you certainly deserve peace. Here's a glass raised to you that she puts at least one semi shallow summer bop on the album so you can stay with us through release. If you ever want to, the album will be here for you to revisit but never feel guilty for processing at your own rate. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Party Favor 10,308 Posted May 25, 2021 36 minutes ago, BluebirdXO said: I don't think that I'll be listening to the album Hide contents Those three songs had a terrible effect on me and I don't think that I can handle more of this. My muscles were so tense that I needed 2 massage sessions to relieve it, the bruxism is almost gone by now but it still sucks. And I also don't want to keep unpacking forgotten memories and feeling guilty by them. Hide contents I talked about this many times since the songs dropped, but really, nothing ever has made me feel like that. I also never voiced any past trauma. I was sent to therapy 4 times while growing up and I never talked about my mom or my childhood. Not even to my friends or even my father and my grandmother But I won't leave the pre-release thread. I'm really curious about her plans for the record that sounds a lot like your subconscious wants you to address some repressed trauma. best of luck to you, bestie 7 Quote leak the barrie-james co-written songs + elvis (2013) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadly Nightshade 12,860 Posted May 25, 2021 4 hours ago, BluebirdXO said: I don't think that I'll be listening to the album Reveal hidden contents Those three songs had a terrible effect on me and I don't think that I can handle more of this. My muscles were so tense that I needed 2 massage sessions to relieve it, the bruxism is almost gone by now but it still sucks. And I also don't want to keep unpacking forgotten memories and feeling guilty by them. Reveal hidden contents I talked about this many times since the songs dropped, but really, nothing ever has made me feel like that. I also never voiced any past trauma. I was sent to therapy 4 times while growing up and I never talked about my mom or my childhood. Not even to my friends or even my father and my grandmother But I won't leave the pre-release thread. I'm really curious about her plans for the record The songs are heavy and not really something that I could listen to casually tbh only when I am in a specific mood . I can't imagine how difficult it can be for someone with trauma . I really hope there are some lighter songs on the album so you can enjoy it more <3 6 Quote 𝚈𝚘𝚞 𝚒𝚖𝚙𝚎𝚛𝚜𝚘𝚗𝚊𝚝𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚜𝚎𝚊𝚜𝚘𝚗𝚜 𝚈𝚘𝚞𝚛 𝚐𝚘𝚕𝚍 𝚊𝚞𝚝𝚞𝚖𝚗𝚊𝚕 𝚑𝚊𝚣𝚎 𝙱𝚞𝚝 𝚜𝚘𝚖𝚎𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚍𝚒𝚎𝚜 𝚒𝚗𝚜𝚒𝚍𝚎 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚆𝚑𝚎𝚗 𝚠𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚜 𝚒𝚝𝚜 𝚏𝚊𝚌𝚎 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProstituteStares 494 Posted May 25, 2021 @BluebirdXO oh my sweetie, another broken soul because of their mother... I am just like you but I have different opinion about that childhood traumas. For me, it is beautiful to see similar soul (read: Lana) who has similar traumatic past because I am looking for a direction and knowledge from these songs. That's why I don't feel like I cant listen to them (right now of course). I am trying to deal with past in an open way (means I want to work on those feelings which memories are still causing) and Lana's WW is like support for this. Anyway, I send you so much love, you do you and remember that you could always talk with us here 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluebirdXO 7,679 Posted May 25, 2021 @HighbytheSea @Party Favor @Deadly Nightshade @ProstituteStares Thank you for the support I hope that all of us that have been through traumatic experiences, can be able to find healing and comfort. Thank you for hearing me ❤ 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunday afternoon 1,037 Posted May 25, 2021 12 hours ago, BluebirdXO said: I don't think that I'll be listening to the album I understand how you feel, and you are right not to listen to her future album if you feel bad. Lana is fascinating but brings back painful memories. Honeymoon arrived at a very traumatic time in my life and it took 5 years before I could really listen to her, the slightest sound took me to very dark memories and in total depression, she has the gift of taking you to the lower even though her music is excellent. I hope you are doing well and that you will be able to overcome these traumas that haunt your life. Stay away from anything that can hurt you. We are like a little family here, and there is enough news on her new album for her to be able to follow her from a distance. Courage my girl and don't hesitate to speak if you are not well 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venice 6,933 Posted May 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Enchanted Mansion said: I understand how you feel, and you are right not to listen to his future album if you feel bad. Lana is fascinating but brings back painful memories. Honeymoon arrived at a very traumatic time in my life and it took 5 years before I could really listen to her, the slightest sound took me to very dark memories and in total depression, she has the gift of taking you to the lower even though his music is excellent. I hope you are doing well and that you will be able to overcome these traumas that haunt your life. Stay away from anything that can hurt you. We are like a little family here, and there is enough news on her new album for her to be able to follow her from a distance. Courage my girl and don't hesitate to speak if you are not well 100%. NFR was released at the worst time of my life and I couldn't handle even songs like FIILY. I feel I still can't listen to that album like normal just because it takes me back to that year. And that's ok!! Hope in the future we can all enjoy tunes we couldn't before 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunday afternoon 1,037 Posted May 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Venice said: 100%. NFR was released at the worst time of my life and I couldn't handle even songs like FIILY. I feel I still can't listen to that album like normal just because it takes me back to that year. And that's ok!! Hope in the future we can all enjoy tunes we couldn't before Her music is like quicksand, we can really sink and when all is not well her music is not a refuge but a trap for many of us. I hope so and I understand how you feel too. Hopefully everything will be better for all of us. Take care of yourself my friend 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doll Harlow 12,367 Posted May 26, 2021 I feel like Freak is a bit underrated on this website. It's a banger and I absolutely love the instrumental. 12 Quote You call me lavender, you call me sunshine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hundred Dollar Bill 21,805 Posted May 26, 2021 Hope is a dangerous thing is so boring and overrated... there I said it 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elle 121,286 Posted May 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Venice said: 100%. NFR was released at the worst time of my life and I couldn't handle even songs like FIILY. I feel I still can't listen to that album like normal just because it takes me back to that year. And that's ok!! Hope in the future we can all enjoy tunes we couldn't before feel this so hard skkk something was really in the water during late summer 2019 huh? similar to you, I still can't listen to that album without certain feelings coming back. also funnily enough, FIILY is one of my least favourite released songs sort of because of that, which I feel is an unpopular opinion within itself x 3 Quote • 4.18.14 • 5.1.14 • 9.20.14 • 5.28.15 • 6.14.15 • 7.28.16 • 7.24.17 • 10.23.17 • 10.24.17 • 1.25.18 • 2.5.18 • 12.5.18 • 10.3.19 • 10.11.19 • 11.16.19 • SF • ATL • ATL • IND • ATL • CHI • LDN • NYC • NYC • DC • ATL • NYC • PDX • SAN • KS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veinsineon 76,885 Posted May 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hundred Dollar Bill said: Hope is a dangerous thing is so boring and overrated... there I said it Literally couldve been such a sexy sad girl esque juxtaposing anthem, but they failed it in every aspect. I listened to it through for the first time in forever the other day, and it wasn't as terrible as i remember, but it was missing sooooo much oomf. It deserved atleast A BEAT... 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,795 Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hundred Dollar Bill said: Hope is a dangerous thing is so boring and overrated... there I said it No shame in that, I get that it's lyrically an amazing song. But the overall melody and vibe does nothing to me. It's just overlong. Agreed with @mansfield ringer it could've been another sexy sad girl-esque anthem, alas it turned out to be a bore. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson and Clover 22,505 Posted May 26, 2021 i'm sorry ik ppl hate NFR but california always pust me in my feelings 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rosesofsaigon 1,559 Posted May 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, JehovahThikness said: i'm sorry ik ppl hate NFR but california always pust me in my feelings That and Bartender. The rest is a snore. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson and Clover 22,505 Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, rosesofsaigon said: That and Bartender. The rest is a snore. Disagree because VB is my forever fave 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fingertips 72,043 Posted May 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, JehovahThikness said: i'm sorry ik ppl hate NFR but california always pust me in my feelings Literally almost everyone outside of this forum loves NFR. 8 Quote "You can't be a muse and be happy, too. You can't blacken the pages with Russian poetry and be happy." - Blue Banisters Quote I asked Asmodeus (the demon of lust) to make Miley Cyrus suffer. I am not happy with these new developments. After Miley rips off Lana's aesthetic, she bullies Lana into changing her release date. It is infuriating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rosesofsaigon 1,559 Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, JehovahThikness said: Disagree because VB is my fave Shit I forgot about her too. Oop. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites