ArtDecoDelRey 15,284 Posted May 10, 2020 you're acting like she is shit talking her mom when in fact she wrote a very lovely comforting letter to women everywhere who may not have your typical mother-daughter relationship lol... don't know why this offends you hmmm... theres a difference between writing a letter to women who have complex relationships with their mothers (we exist) and writing a letter stating that you don't like your mother. its not really a cry for help - but rather a comforting letter to those who may be hurting on this day for whatever reason I agree completely tbh. I don't suck up to lana with everything she does but i genuinely don't have a problem with what she did. I know mother's day is very triggering to myself, and when you're constantly shoved with pictures of everyone and their perfect relationships with their mothers, it can get to be very tiring. I don't have the worst situation imaginable, but i think what she said on twitter is encouraging to people who don't feel content with their family relationships on a day that is so family-centred and too idealistic for many people. 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urgirl 5,747 Posted May 10, 2020 Did she really say I feel like a mother because I appreciate Mother Nature OMG 16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rorman Nockwell 56,714 Posted May 11, 2020 Did she really say I feel like a mother because I appreciate Mother Nature OMG Honestly, all of this is messy as fuck, but I LOVE that bit because it's sooo her 13 Quote ur legit gonna look the same stop buying oil of Olay face cream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry 5,934 Posted May 11, 2020 Posted in wrong thread 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mkultraviolence 5,832 Posted May 11, 2020 I don't feel that embarrassed feeling that some of you are feeling. I feel kinda proud for her. It's not easy to say you don't like your mom, it's very difficult to cut someone like that out of your life or even just distance yourself from them. she isn't perfect. she was probably well-meaning with her post about chosen family, but anger slipped through because it was looming so large in her. as someone who was abused by my mom, i feel very comforted by this post. it's incredibly hard to cut someone like that out of your life and i think a lot of times, people border on whether they should stay in the relationship or leave. i feel like she has probably been in limbo on whether cutting her mother out is the right choice to make and i think it has probably been very freeing and healing to say "ya know what, you hurt me, fuck you." i get that there are better times to do this, but with all the emotions she must be having, can we not accept that some people ARE still working on themselves. she might not be at a place mentally where she understands the impact of what she's doing. i think we can all agree she struggles with her mental health, and i think that's okay. let her struggle. let her make a mistake. if i got backlash like this every time i messed up or relapsed, i would never get better. she needs support. we can't attack every thing she does. also, this is like 100% projection and is opening some old wounds so please don't kill me for saying this. ahhh now i'm fucking anxious great 28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fetish 284 Posted May 11, 2020 Wow she really keeps digging her mom's grave. Writing a whole essay about the women in her life, but not once mentioning your own mother. That relation is wrecked beyond repair, damn. Regardless, I feel for her in this, she clearly is aching to be a mother but somehow this hasn't happened to her. Why does this sound like a boomer wrote it and what happened to ~my mother said I have a chameleon soul~. I bet her mom actually told her nothing of this sort and was done with Lana's shit early on. Lana's always pretended people have found her more interesting than she actually is. I know once people started reading her interviews and shit, they realize how vapid and ignorant she really is. She was better off keeping quiet and sticking to the ~so mysterious~ bullshit her managers demanded every media outlet spread so we wouldn't know she's as basic as every other girl out there, she just happens to be talented at music. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gasstationkween 5,615 Posted May 11, 2020 her recent selfie is gorge 7 Quote i like your ultra-violent swing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urgirl 5,747 Posted May 11, 2020 I know once people started reading her interviews and shit, they realize how vapid and ignorant she really is. you can say some specific comment is vapid or ignorant (and I totally agree in this case) but if you think SHE is just vapid and ignorant why r u a fan? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatadelrey 4,617 Posted May 11, 2020 I don't feel that embarrassed feeling that some of you are feeling. I feel kinda proud for her. It's not easy to say you don't like your mom, it's very difficult to cut someone like that out of your life or even just distance yourself from them. she isn't perfect. she was probably well-meaning with her post about chosen family, but anger slipped through because it was looming so large in her. as someone who was abused by my mom, i feel very comforted by this post. it's incredibly hard to cut someone like that out of your life and i think a lot of times, people border on whether they should stay in the relationship or leave. i feel like she has probably been in limbo on whether cutting her mother out is the right choice to make and i think it has probably been very freeing and healing to say "ya know what, you hurt me, fuck you." i get that there are better times to do this, but with all the emotions she must be having, can we not accept that some people ARE still working on themselves. she might not be at a place mentally where she understands the impact of what she's doing. i think we can all agree she struggles with her mental health, and i think that's okay. let her struggle. let her make a mistake. if i got backlash like this every time i messed up or relapsed, i would never get better. she needs support. we can't attack every thing she does. also, this is like 100% projection and is opening some old wounds so please don't kill me for saying this. ahhh now i'm fucking anxious great I agree with everything that you stated here. I’m sorry about your situation and I can relate to it. It’s comforting that Lana posted this so we know we’re not alone. If you ever need someone to talk to, I’m always around. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 202,304 Posted May 11, 2020 i think some people are forgetting that parent/child relationships are rarely stagnant and just because lana's feeling disdain towards her mother now, doesn't mean she always has. there's times where they probably get along great, and some times where they do not. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mkultraviolence 5,832 Posted May 11, 2020 Why does this sound like a boomer wrote it and what happened to ~my mother said I have a chameleon soul~. I bet her mom actually told her nothing of this sort and was done with Lana's shit early on. Lana's always pretended people have found her more interesting than she actually is. I know once people started reading her interviews and shit, they realize how vapid and ignorant she really is. She was better off keeping quiet and sticking to the ~so mysterious~ bullshit her managers demanded every media outlet spread so we wouldn't know she's as basic as every other girl out there, she just happens to be talented at music. being told she was a chameleon soul was probably not a compliment. if she was told "she has an inner decisiveness as wide and as wavering as the ocean" and a "chameleon soul", she's being told she doesn't have a concrete sense of self. not really a compliment. 16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobody 21,523 Posted May 11, 2020 Why does this sound like a boomer wrote it and what happened to ~my mother said I have a chameleon soul~. I bet her mom actually told her nothing of this sort and was done with Lana's shit early on. Lana's always pretended people have found her more interesting than she actually is. I know once people started reading her interviews and shit, they realize how vapid and ignorant she really is. She was better off keeping quiet and sticking to the ~so mysterious~ bullshit her managers demanded every media outlet spread so we wouldn't know she's as basic as every other girl out there, she just happens to be talented at music. ok 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,795 Posted May 11, 2020 Why does this sound like a boomer wrote it and what happened to ~my mother said I have a chameleon soul~. I bet her mom actually told her nothing of this sort and was done with Lana's shit early on. Lana's always pretended people have found her more interesting than she actually is. I know once people started reading her interviews and shit, they realize how vapid and ignorant she really is. She was better off keeping quiet and sticking to the ~so mysterious~ bullshit her managers demanded every media outlet spread so we wouldn't know she's as basic as every other girl out there, she just happens to be talented at music. I agree to a certain extent, she was definitely more interesting when she kept some sort of secrecy around who she really was, call it the persona thing, I don't know. But truth be told, once Lana started to be more out there and really expose who she really is, she def came off as basic. If there's anything that I've learned from the past two albums/eras, is that the so called "real" Lana is indeed beige, basic and to a certain extent actually quite ignorant. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,795 Posted May 11, 2020 i think some people are forgetting that parent/child relationships are rarely stagnant and just because lana's feeling disdain towards her mother now, doesn't mean she always has. there's times where they probably get along great, and some times where they do not. That's so true, but it just seems weird for her to go on tangents and write about all the women she loves in her life and basically forgo the one person this whole day is dedicated to, it just seems petty, but I guess I can understand that all of this comes from a place of plain. Also, her tweet is probably what irked me the most, it was like "oh I'm in a cult and it's been eyeopening as far as family dynamics go, thank you God", which is iffy af to me. I really don't know what their actual dynamic is, or what happened between the two of them, but there is clearly resentment on Lana's part. Granted I do have somewhat of a good relationship with my own mother, but I do know that not everyone does, and that toxic moms are definitely a thing, so I'm not disregarding or invalidating her narrative here. So I can understand that today of all day is probably triggering for her, but still. I just feel like she just did the most today to make sure we read between the lines and made it clear that she and her mother do not have a relationship. It was just like: Lana, doth shalt protest too much. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yosemite 23,786 Posted May 11, 2020 I agree to a certain extent, she was definitely more interesting when she kept some sort of secrecy around who she really was, call it the persona thing, I don't know. But truth be told, once Lana started to be more out there and really expose who she really is, she def came off as basic. If there's anything that I've learned from the past two albums/eras, is that the so called "real" Lana is indeed beige, basic and to a certain extent actually quite ignorant. Not to sound rude but like, you said "I agree to a certain extent" in regards to that person's comment, right? However, you literally said what they did. Shouldn't you say "I fully agree with you"? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mkultraviolence 5,832 Posted May 11, 2020 the thought of lana being abused hurts my heart. i really hope she wasn't. it gives me sad images in my mind. i know lana messes up a lot and is often ignorant, but i want her to be happy and i love her so much 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West Coast 45,795 Posted May 11, 2020 Not to sound rude but like, you said "I agree to a certain extent" in regards to that person's comment, right? However, you literally said what they did. Shouldn't you say "I fully agree with you"? I mean you did ended up sounding rude, so maybe you should've said "I sound rude, because". jk. Anyway, I guess I just don't really think that Lana is vapid per se, but I feel like she makes herself look more sophisticated and precocious than what she actually is, not saying she's dumb, because I don't think she is. But sometimes I feel like she puts her foot in her mouth. Also, I do feel like she used to project a certain image of herself, but once she stripped that way and wanted to appear more "genuine" (quote on quote) she came off a bit basic and bland. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yosemite 23,786 Posted May 11, 2020 Like some of you said rightfully, you don't know how is Lana's relationship with her mom to call her petty or that she's forgotten her own mother. She has the right not to celebrate this day w/ her mother if, in fact, their relationship is toxic/they're not close anymore. Things happen and that could be from her mother's end of even Lana's. In regards of her so called persona: people change, in 10 years they won't like the same things they like, they won't be as carefree as they are or partying like they were. I do agree that some things might have been treated as "imagery" and then people just linked the two things. In my opinion, in the beginning it was like 20% "persona" and 80% her, which isn't a lot. I mean you did ended up sounding rude, so maybe you should've said "I sound rude, because". jk. Anyway, I guess I just don't really think that Lana is vapid per se, but I feel like she makes herself look more sophisticated and precocious than what she actually is, not saying she's dumb, because I don't think she is. But sometimes I feel like she puts her foot in her mouth. Also, I do feel like she used to project a certain image of herself, but once she stripped that way and wanted to appear more "genuine" (quote on quote) she came off a bit basic and bland. Tha_dont_make_no_cents_luv.gif Yeah, I can see where you coming from but like, you're still calling her basic which I don't think she is. But yeah, it's your opinion and it's as valid as mine 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mind Melt 10,095 Posted May 11, 2020 some of yall sound like you dont even like this girl let her have her feelings and leave her alone lol 24 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yosemite 23,786 Posted May 11, 2020 some of yall sound like you dont even like this girl let her have her feelings and leave her alone lol this. You don't have to "approve" everything she does or says just because you're a fan, but like, she's human give her a break and let her be 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites