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yes but if WAP isn't being criticized as a wrong representation of straight ppl why are people criticizing rush for the same thing but for queer culture

if there's nothing wrong with mvs like anaconda or wap there's definitely nothing wrong with rush

also, another example for me of how queerphobia is being deep rooted in our brains is how you instantly went on linking both things - a queer artist releasing a sexual video and queer people being naked on the streets - these are two completely different things and i don't really think they're related at all! if a straight artist did something nasty the public never judge the entire straight culture because of it, like we can just be critical of his individual art and not feed into this whole propaganda against queer people because even if we're somehow a community we should never be judged as a whole

Pre-ordered my copy! 
 
So excited to see what she has to share with us. 

I have a love/hate relationship with this album. I love that dance pop is finally back in this year (this album, Ava Max, Bebe Rexha, Ellie Goulding). The album is pretty great for workouts and just mindless happy music. I also want it to be a success since I do like this type of music and for trans representation.

But so many of the songs I’ve already heard and overplayed, either because they were leaks (my fault for listening) or singles. A lot of the new songs are just fine to me - I don’t dislike them but don’t like them enough to really seek them out on their own outside of listening to the album in full. A lot of the songs I can’t decide if I like or dislike.

Like Alone isn’t bad, but I never cared for the song it samples, and I’m so tired of artists using samples of older successful songs to make a new song. The only new songs I really love are Feed the Beast, uhoh, and Claws. I love/loved Hit It From the Back, brrr, and Coconuts, but I’ve already overplayed them. The rest are just mid but still enjoyable to me. I loved Unholy at the beginning, but I’m SO sick of it now. I didn’t even save it when I saved the album. 

I also feel conflicted with Dr. Luke involvement, and Larry Rudolf (Britney’s former manager that was there the entirety of her conservatorship). And I respect doing what you need to do to be successful, but the way she just kept throwing whatever she could to the wall to make it stick makes the album seem like it really didn’t have a strong artistic vision, which I guess isn’t necessary for all music, especially mindless dance pop, but still. 

Also, to whoever in this thread told us to try listening to If Jesus Was a Rockstar after Minute and before Coconuts, you’re a genius. I didn’t even care for that song as a single, but having it there in the track list makes me love it. It should’ve been included even though it flopped. 

I’m all for competition, especially when every social media company seems to be imploding at the moment, but I honestly rather be on Elon-run Twitter than anything run by Meta/Facebook/Zuckerberg. All of Meta’s apps are a privacy nightmare.
 
I’m enjoying Mastodon quite a bit.

I’m all for competition, especially when every social media company seems to be imploding at the moment, but I honestly rather be on Elon-run Twitter than anything run by Meta/Facebook/Zuckerberg. All of Meta’s apps are a privacy nightmare.
 
I’m enjoying Mastodon quite a bit.

I’m all for competition, especially when every social media company seems to be imploding at the moment, but I honestly rather be on Elon-run Twitter than anything run by Meta/Facebook/Zuckerberg. All of Meta’s apps are a privacy nightmare.
 
I’m enjoying Mastodon quite a bit.

imo, Threads & Instagram will have a bright future if they get rid of M*rk. I hate this man even more than Elon Musk. He is THE REAL enemy.
 

EVERYTHING I DROP DROP DROP DROP 
 

I have a love/hate relationship with this album. I love that dance pop is finally back in this year (this album, Ava Max, Bebe Rexha, Ellie Goulding). The album is pretty great for workouts and just mindless happy music. I also want it to be a success since I do like this type of music and for trans representation.

But so many of the songs I’ve already heard and overplayed, either because they were leaks (my fault for listening) or singles. A lot of the new songs are just fine to me - I don’t dislike them but don’t like them enough to really seek them out on their own outside of listening to the album in full. A lot of the songs I can’t decide if I like or dislike.

Like Alone isn’t bad, but I never cared for the song it samples, and I’m so tired of artists using samples of older successful songs to make a new song. The only new songs I really love are Feed the Beast, uhoh, and Claws. I love/loved Hit It From the Back, brrr, and Coconuts, but I’ve already overplayed them. The rest are just mid but still enjoyable to me. I loved Unholy at the beginning, but I’m SO sick of it now. I didn’t even save it when I saved the album. 

I also feel conflicted with Dr. Luke involvement, and Larry Rudolf (Britney’s former manager that was there the entirety of her conservatorship). And I respect doing what you need to do to be successful, but the way she just kept throwing whatever she could to the wall to make it stick makes the album seem like it really didn’t have a strong artistic vision, which I guess isn’t necessary for all music, especially mindless dance pop, but still. 

Also, to whoever in this thread told us to try listening to If Jesus Was a Rockstar after Minute and before Coconuts, you’re a genius. I didn’t even care for that song as a single, but having it there in the track list makes me love it. It should’ve been included even though it flopped. 

I have a love/hate relationship with this album. I love that dance pop is finally back in this year (this album, Ava Max, Bebe Rexha, Ellie Goulding). The album is pretty great for workouts and just mindless happy music. I also want it to be a success since I do like this type of music and for trans representation.

But so many of the songs I’ve already heard and overplayed, either because they were leaks (my fault for listening) or singles. A lot of the new songs are just fine to me - I don’t dislike them but don’t like them enough to really seek them out on their own outside of listening to the album in full. A lot of the songs I can’t decide if I like or dislike.

Like Alone isn’t bad, but I never cared for the song it samples, and I’m so tired of artists using samples of older successful songs to make a new song. The only new songs I really love are Feed the Beast, uhoh, and Claws. I love/loved Hit It From the Back, brrr, and Coconuts, but I’ve already overplayed them. The rest are just mid but still enjoyable to me. I loved Unholy at the beginning, but I’m SO sick of it now. I didn’t even save it when I saved the album. 

I also feel conflicted with Dr. Luke involvement, and Larry Rudolf (Britney’s former manager that was there the entirety of her conservatorship). And I respect doing what you need to do to be successful, but the way she just kept throwing whatever she could to the wall to make it stick makes the album seem like it really didn’t have a strong artistic vision, which I guess isn’t necessary for all music, especially mindless dance pop, but still. 

Also, to whoever in this thread told us to try listening to If Jesus Was a Rockstar after Minute and before Coconuts, you’re a genius. I didn’t even care for that song as a single, but having it there in the track list makes me love it. It should’ve been included even though it flopped. 

I have a love/hate relationship with this album. I love that dance pop is finally back in this year (this album, Ava Max, Bebe Rexha, Ellie Goulding). The album is pretty great for workouts and just mindless happy music. I also want it to be a success since I do like this type of music and for trans representation.

But so many of the songs I’ve already heard and overplayed, either because they were leaks (my fault for listening) or singles. A lot of the new songs are just fine to me - I don’t dislike them but don’t like them enough to really seek them out on their own outside of listening to the album in full. A lot of the songs I can’t decide if I like or dislike.

Like Alone isn’t bad, but I never cared for the song it samples, and I’m so tired of artists using samples of older successful songs to make a new song. The only new songs I really love are Feed the Beast, uhoh, and Claws. I love/loved Hit It From the Back, brrr, and Coconuts, but I’ve already overplayed them. The rest are just mid but still enjoyable to me. I loved Unholy at the beginning, but I’m SO sick of it now. I didn’t even save it when I saved the album. 

I also feel conflicted with Dr. Luke involvement, and Larry Rudolf (Britney’s former manager that was there the entirety of her conservatorship). And I respect doing what you need to do to be successful, but the way she just kept throwing whatever she could to the wall to make it stick makes the album seem like it really didn’t have a strong artistic vision, which I guess isn’t necessary for all music, especially mindless dance pop, but still. 

Also, to whoever in this thread told us to try listening to If Jesus Was a Rockstar after Minute and before Coconuts, you’re a genius. I didn’t even care for that song as a single, but having it there in the track list makes me love it. It should’ve been included even though it flopped. 

I have a love/hate relationship with this album. I love that dance pop is finally back in this year (this album, Ava Max, Bebe Rexha, Ellie Goulding). The album is pretty great for workouts and just mindless happy music. I also want it to be a success since I do like this type of music and for trans representation.

But so many of the songs I’ve already heard and overplayed, either because they were leaks (my fault for listening) or singles. A lot of the new songs are just fine to me - I don’t dislike them but don’t like them enough to really seek them out on their own outside of listening to the album in full. A lot of the songs I can’t decide if I like or dislike.

Like Alone isn’t bad, but I never cared for the song it samples, and I’m so tired of artists using samples of older successful songs to make a new song. The only new songs I really love are Feed the Beast, uhoh, and Claws. I love/loved Hit It From the Back, brrr, and Coconuts, but I’ve already overplayed them. The rest are just mid but still enjoyable to me. I loved Unholy at the beginning, but I’m SO sick of it now. I didn’t even save it when I saved the album. 

I also feel conflicted with Dr. Luke involvement, and Larry Rudolf (Britney’s former manager that was there the entirety of her conservatorship). And I respect doing what you need to do to be successful, but the way she just kept throwing whatever she could to the wall to make it stick makes the album seem like it really didn’t have a strong artistic vision, which I guess isn’t necessary for all music, especially mindless dance pop, but still. 

Also, to whoever in this thread told us to try listening to If Jesus Was a Rockstar after Minute and before Coconuts, you’re a genius. I didn’t even care for that song as a single, but having it there in the track list makes me love it. It should’ve been included even though it flopped. 

not gonna lie when i first read the title of this thread i was tempted to just reply "because people are fucking tasteless" and just leave it at that   

there's a lot of people on social media nowadays, mostly young people, who somehow think her lizzy grant days were problematic/traumatic for her for no reason, they claim that she was a prostitute, living in poverty because she was living in a trailer park, being groomed, or addicted to drugs, i'm actually a massive fan of the lizzy grant era and AKA is my #1 favorite album of all time, so clearly i'm very biased towards AKA and the music she made during that time  for what it's worth, a lot of people here really like AKA and it seems like the lizzy grant era in general has become more popular here in the past few years, i honestly don't have any social media really so i really don't know for sure what people feel about AKA, i feel like some people may prefer lana's mainstream major-label albums because they do sound quite different compared to AKA, AKA isn't nearly as cinematic or luscious sonically, it's a completely different feel, people are allowed to like what they like, but my issue is people acting like it's wrong to listen to it because they claim it's problematic
 
i actually was watching a video yesterday of somebody showing off their vinyl collection and all they could really say about AKA was that it was "camp" and i honestly felt a bit offended  because it seems like "camp" is just a code-word for "bad", AKA is genuinely a masterpiece, not ironically, not in a campy way, GENIUNELY, SERIOUSLY a masterpiece

Imagine not liking AKA

no because there isn't a drag show for kids. a drag queen might read a book to kids, but where is the harm? who is that hurting? colleen had a 13yo girl lay on her back on stage at a show and open her legs and made a fart noise. who knows what that was meant to be or why she did it, but it's... not funny. there's no world where it's okay. no drag queen is doing this to kids. she sent someone underwear? that's weird as fuck too. no drag queen is doing this either. there is no time or place for an adult to be sending messages to a teenager or kid "sexually" or in any sexual manner or sends them underwear, or talks about their sex life, or asks about their sex life. drag queen or colleen.
 
but if it's a man who conducts inappropriate behavior, he's called a pedophile, etc. etc. she needs to be held accountable as much as anyone else would be. just like shane should've been, but that's another topic. she shouldn't get away with asking a teenager for ass pics. but at the same time, that teenager shouldn't be talking to a group chat with adults in it (or anyone really, but teenagers are teenagers) saying their "ass looks so good rn". that's on the parents for not teaching their kid boundaries. same with his little sex jokes and sex toy mentions. if she was mentioned in a message about a sex toy, she should draw the line - she was the adult, not adam. she should've ignored it or said something like "hey, i don't think this is appropriate so let's not talk about that." it really isn't fucking hard to do
 
sometimes it's hard to know when you're a teenager what is appropriate and what's not - and sometimes when you're online as much as we are these days and as much as i was when i was a teenager even, 10 years ago, you sometimes say stuff you wouldn't say in person and even if you say it in person, it's typically amongst your friends and it's around people who are making similar jokes or talking similar. but it's age appropriate because you're both around the same age and both are exploring life as a teenager
 
i will say, i don't like him because this seems opportunistic and he seems to just want attention so i've only seen shit on tiktok but her apology or whatever the hell that was was a joke and she doesn't understand that it's not okay. she became a victim so she doesn't feel bad about doing it - she feels bad about getting caught for doing it

this thread being entirely fucking dead since 2013 until now is so funny 

I can’t get over how much better this version is compared to the released. I know she probably felt like she was in a very different headspace for Chemtrails and obviously the production didn’t really match the rest of the album, but damn, this is just so much more effective and powerful. 
 
LMLYAW just sounds like your pretty standard love song but with a bit of a conservative anti-feminism sounding title which isn’t the best look.
 
Pink Champagne isn’t really a love song, it’s kind of a desperate plea for a guy to let Lana love him as a form of escapism for how miserable she is. I mean, the line about getting hard to stay sober really gets me considering she actually has been sober. Plus the context of her dreaming of being a famous artist all her live and her dream not living up to what she thought she wanted. And then there’s the production. It’s just all around such a more interesting song. LMLYAW is gorgeous, but forgettable. And the title wouldn’t even sound cringey with the context of how the song was originally written. 

Twins! My first album that I remember is Baby One More Time CD that my mom got for me at a garage sale after I begged her for it there.  

 
 

My first vinyl record was a 12 inch "Baby One More Time" single. I think I purchased it for myself, either on my birthday, or as an early birthday present
*Not my image

 
 

Hallucinogenics will forever have me in a blissful choke hold  and Buddy's Rendezvous is a lush experience of time travelling splendour 
 
also Dayglo Reflection goes hard  

I love all her songs with Barrie (UFB, Riverside, Summer Wine, If You Lie Down With Me, Brooklyn Baby...), they're heaven.
I also like all her work with Abel (Stargirl, Lust for Life, Party Monster, Prisoner...); yes his voice sounds "whiny" sometimes but his sound is incredible for Lana. I want more collabs from them.
 
However I feel like Ocean Blvd has her best features ever, which was a surprise to me as I wasn't expecting much when the tracklist was released.
 
Candy Necklace I think is my favorite LDR collab. Jon's piano skills speak for themselves. His voice at the end is a highlight. Pure cinematic magic.
The samples used in Paris Texas and Grandfather are beautiful. Jack's verse in Margaret is my favorite part of the song.
Let the Light In is a damn classic.
 
But then we have the Judah Smith Interlude which I hate, and as much as I love Peppers, I could've lived without Tommy's sample.
 
As for live performances, Wicked Games with Chris Isaak was iconic. Her vocals towards the end are gorgeous.