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its "Laying blue in your truck in my party dress btw i love LA"

So we have the title for LDR8 already!

In closing, because I know I’m beating a dead horse and spamming this thread 
 
if 
 
A) her debut album was NFR 
or
B) I was introduced to her with NFR 
 
I wouldn’t be as big of a fan of hers as I am now. Her first 4 albums are definitely a different sound and world than NFR, and my music taste falls more along the records that made me fall in love with her and her world. I’m not saying NFR is a bad album, it’s just vastly different than the world she had built and not so much my cup of tea. Do I want her to go back to an old sound? Heck no! I want her to evolve and grow. But if anything LMLYLAW is NFR 2.0 and I can’t help but be a little more disappointed. 
 
After QFTC and her instagram post of her stripping in Tropico with the caption ‘#fuckoff’ I got really hopeful. THATS what I want. Bad bitch, idgaf vibes. I’m hoping Chemtrials touches on that more and is a return to form. 

I probably came off ruder than I intended. All I’m trying to say is it’s completely okay that some people see NFR as an amazing body of work and don’t see the criticisms I have for it. But at the same time, some of us can’t help but feel disappointed that part of the Lana appeal seemed (to me, not saying everyone thinks the same say) to fade away a little. It isn’t just her lyrical content, I want beats in her songs, I want strings, I want ambiance, I want to really feel like I’m in her world. Norman was good storytelling wise (and having Violets tie into it was an amazing touch) but it is slightly annoying that you can’t say you miss all these things without being labeled a BTD fanboy who just needs to ‘move past’ the album that initially hooked me. 

I probably came off ruder than I intended. All I’m trying to say is it’s completely okay that some people see NFR as an amazing body of work and don’t see the criticisms I have for it. But at the same time, some of us can’t help but feel disappointed that part of the Lana appeal seemed (to me, not saying everyone thinks the same say) to fade away a little. It isn’t just her lyrical content, I want beats in her songs, I want strings, I want ambiance, I want to really feel like I’m in her world. Norman was good storytelling wise (and having Violets tie into it was an amazing touch) but it is slightly annoying that you can’t say you miss all these things without being labeled a BTD fanboy who just needs to ‘move past’ the album that initially hooked me. 

I definitely don’t think BTD is her best, and I don’t want a BTD 2.0 (or 2.0 of any record she’s made) she’s had so many iconic lyrical moments throughout her career (her song writing definitely didn’t just magically stop with BTD), it just seems like the girl who came full circle and sang “Sometimes it feels like I've got a war in my mind I want to get off but I keep riding the ride” went back to singing “lying on your chest, in my party dress, I’m a fucking mess” like...where’s the fire.
 
this is the unpopular opinion thread and I know me not liking NFR is a very unpopular opinion.
 
she went from having lush strings, ambiance sprinkled throughout her songs (God Knows I Tried had crickets, 13B had SO many little sound effects and noises that made the song so full) and NFR had strings that don’t add a thing to the overall song and hardly any kind of beats (CG being an exception, I would have killed for a full song that sounds like the last minute)
 
I can be critical and still like her
 
edit: plus, the two songs I’m quoting as saying I miss aren’t even BTD. They’re paradise (which yes is an EP but also feels very much like it’s own body if work)

I probably came off ruder than I intended. All I’m trying to say is it’s completely okay that some people see NFR as an amazing body of work and don’t see the criticisms I have for it. But at the same time, some of us can’t help but feel disappointed that part of the Lana appeal seemed (to me, not saying everyone thinks the same say) to fade away a little. It isn’t just her lyrical content, I want beats in her songs, I want strings, I want ambiance, I want to really feel like I’m in her world. Norman was good storytelling wise (and having Violets tie into it was an amazing touch) but it is slightly annoying that you can’t say you miss all these things without being labeled a BTD fanboy who just needs to ‘move past’ the album that initially hooked me. 

The lack of communication on Lana’s part is getting super frustrating. I know she lives her own life and has flat out said she doesn’t care about losing fans, but it wouldn’t kill her to communicate even a little. It’s always been a problem with her but it’s getting increasingly bad. First the September 5th date coming and going with her saying nothing, the book signing where she threw two days around, the instagram live on Election Day where she flat out says “I was planning on making an official announcement but this will do”
 
and now her performance planned for Monday. Even if she is going to sing Chemtrails (which I’m finding more and more unlikely) she could at least post a ‘Catch you Monday’ to announce it. 
 
I’m also in agreement with the others who say she’s really losing what made her music unique. The woman who sang her Pussy tastes like Pepsi cola, had to touch herself to pretend her man was there, was being led to war with her man’s brilliant direction...gone, now her mans just being a jerk :/

i hate him so much it all went downhill when she met him

Basically, she just needs to get the hell away from Jack. 
 

nobody said they want lana to make another btd we just want more " im on fire baby" and not another "pls hold me im blue u make me blue"

I definitely don’t think BTD is her best, and I don’t want a BTD 2.0 (or 2.0 of any record she’s made) she’s had so many iconic lyrical moments throughout her career (her song writing definitely didn’t just magically stop with BTD), it just seems like the girl who came full circle and sang “Sometimes it feels like I've got a war in my mind I want to get off but I keep riding the ride” went back to singing “lying on your chest, in my party dress, I’m a fucking mess” like...where’s the fire.
 
this is the unpopular opinion thread and I know me not liking NFR is a very unpopular opinion.
 
she went from having lush strings, ambiance sprinkled throughout her songs (God Knows I Tried had crickets, 13B had SO many little sound effects and noises that made the song so full) and NFR had strings that don’t add a thing to the overall song and hardly any kind of beats (CG being an exception, I would have killed for a full song that sounds like the last minute)
 
I can be critical and still like her
 
edit: plus, the two songs I’m quoting as saying I miss aren’t even BTD. They’re paradise (which yes is an EP but also feels very much like it’s own body if work)

I definitely don’t think BTD is her best, and I don’t want a BTD 2.0 (or 2.0 of any record she’s made) she’s had so many iconic lyrical moments throughout her career (her song writing definitely didn’t just magically stop with BTD), it just seems like the girl who came full circle and sang “Sometimes it feels like I've got a war in my mind I want to get off but I keep riding the ride” went back to singing “lying on your chest, in my party dress, I’m a fucking mess” like...where’s the fire.
 
this is the unpopular opinion thread and I know me not liking NFR is a very unpopular opinion.
 
she went from having lush strings, ambiance sprinkled throughout her songs (God Knows I Tried had crickets, 13B had SO many little sound effects and noises that made the song so full) and NFR had strings that don’t add a thing to the overall song and hardly any kind of beats (CG being an exception, I would have killed for a full song that sounds like the last minute)
 
I can be critical and still like her
 
edit: plus, the two songs I’m quoting as saying I miss aren’t even BTD. They’re paradise (which yes is an EP but also feels very much like it’s own body if work)

The lack of communication on Lana’s part is getting super frustrating. I know she lives her own life and has flat out said she doesn’t care about losing fans, but it wouldn’t kill her to communicate even a little. It’s always been a problem with her but it’s getting increasingly bad. First the September 5th date coming and going with her saying nothing, the book signing where she threw two days around, the instagram live on Election Day where she flat out says “I was planning on making an official announcement but this will do”
 
and now her performance planned for Monday. Even if she is going to sing Chemtrails (which I’m finding more and more unlikely) she could at least post a ‘Catch you Monday’ to announce it. 
 
I’m also in agreement with the others who say she’s really losing what made her music unique. The woman who sang her Pussy tastes like Pepsi cola, had to touch herself to pretend her man was there, was being led to war with her man’s brilliant direction...gone, now her mans just being a jerk :/

The lack of communication on Lana’s part is getting super frustrating. I know she lives her own life and has flat out said she doesn’t care about losing fans, but it wouldn’t kill her to communicate even a little. It’s always been a problem with her but it’s getting increasingly bad. First the September 5th date coming and going with her saying nothing, the book signing where she threw two days around, the instagram live on Election Day where she flat out says “I was planning on making an official announcement but this will do”
 
and now her performance planned for Monday. Even if she is going to sing Chemtrails (which I’m finding more and more unlikely) she could at least post a ‘Catch you Monday’ to announce it. 
 
I’m also in agreement with the others who say she’s really losing what made her music unique. The woman who sang her Pussy tastes like Pepsi cola, had to touch herself to pretend her man was there, was being led to war with her man’s brilliant direction...gone, now her mans just being a jerk :/

keep big eyes' name out of your fuckin mouth 
 

Big Eyes is a masterpiece and one of her best songs

i struggle to remember which shows are from la to the moon and which shows are from the nfr tour because there was literally no growth between those tours they both bore me and they both look exactly the same... i dont even know which tour had that big swing

i feel like she downgraded the second she met Jack. Even the demo of Votd that she sent to him as inspo sounds better than most of the songs on the nfr. Lmlylaw sounds straight out of nfr. Its just getting boring and repetitive.It even has the exact same short melody in the background as most of nfr songs. Summertime was finally something new and you can see how much fans liked it. If Lana stays with Jack for the next albums, i think fans will slowly begin unstanning

except for the odd song here and there, it’s rare-ish for me to actively dislike any song she’s put out.... but now im finding myself actively hating the last three she’s put out in a row  YNWA, Summertime and LMLYLAW. im beginning to think she’s lost everything that made her appeal to me in the first place, or at least gone in a direction i no longer relate to, which is sad because of how hard ive stanned from BTD all the way to NFR. although im hoping that cotcc in full will prove me wrong. 
 
even if this is it though ill still be grateful for all the great albums and unreleased that she’s provided me with  

I always start my NFR! album listening with Mariners Apartment Complex. " You took my sadness out of context " is a  better opening line than   " You fucked me so good  that I almost said I love you" btw
 
Speaking of title tracks..the LFL & NFR!  ones are my least favourite title tracks ...hoping for COTCC to surprise me with a title track that’s good as BTD, UV & HM
 
 

I wouldn't say I lost interest in her as an artist, I'm still a hopeful fan and very looking forward to next releases and stuff. But, you do hit the nail when you say that her work has little to no replay value nowadays. I didn't like 'Lust for Life' as an album, but the songs I loved on there, I loved them and I'm still listening to them to this day. On 'NFR'... I'll listen to the title track sometimes even if the opening line is cringy, or sometimes if I feel like it 'Venice Bitch' or 'The greatest', but that's honestly about it.

thinking about how "cowboy like me" is going to sound.  i just know that's going to be something special

15 hours to go
 

Not me saying “fuck Taylor’s sister album” two seconds ago in the COCC thread to build delulu momentum for Chemtrails and then coming to this thread in actual excitement because Taylor really is delivering this year