Mash Tragic

Honestly I feel like it's very bad for her and for us. 
 
We won't hear about her and the tracks she worked on will forever be vaulted.
 
She's 100% too lazy to try and book shows or interviews herself. I don't know if Capitol was still doing basic advertizing for her, but I imagine they did because she doesn't seem like the type to care about that. Like, if she was still late to sing even though it's her passion, I don't see her picking up her phone ever again to attend another MET gala. 
 
I can't imagine another major label signing her after her Capitol days. Even if she's in the right, Capitol will probably end her reputation among their peers. Indie labels have little to no money and we know she wants better budgets. So...? 
 
I hope I'm wrong but I'm pretty pessimistic about her situation and Masochism existence for now. 

Huuun, ok. I stand corrected! I have no idea how labels really work, so thanks for the info. 
 
I would've argued that she probably let that to management then, but I'm not sure I understand: if she complained she had to do stuff her label was supposed to do, but said stuff isn't the label's but management's... Does it mean she doesn't have a (real) manager? Or does she have as much clue as me about what labels are supposed to do? 
 
We'll never know the truth behind Sky and Capitol's beef, but just from that, it seems there's a misunderstanding or a lack of knowledge on Sky's part? If labels don't do that shit and she doesn't have management, it's normal they are asking HER to do that, right? So she can't really accuse her labels of not doing... what they're not supposed to do? Not saying she's a liar but I'd find that wild she knows as much as me considering she's been in the business for years.
 
I do remember she said that (having to do stuff she didn't think was her job) but frankly, I'm past believing her. Sky's never been the most reliable source. Also, I'm not forgetting (ironically) that Don't Forget video she shelved herself. Girlie thinks promo isn't her job but she fires the editor to do his work? Just to never release that shit?  I get not liking the editor's vision but... just do the fucking work you gave to yourself then?? This is part of the many inconsistencies that makes me believe in the perfectionnist-excuse-actual-lazy-ass explanation. I'd love to believe her but she's the reason I have trust issues. 
 
Sorry for the long rant but I'm genuinely so confused about all of that. And tired. I only want Pretty Dull to finally move on from her and that hell of a thread.

Honestly I feel like it's very bad for her and for us. 
 
We won't hear about her and the tracks she worked on will forever be vaulted.
 
She's 100% too lazy to try and book shows or interviews herself. I don't know if Capitol was still doing basic advertizing for her, but I imagine they did because she doesn't seem like the type to care about that. Like, if she was still late to sing even though it's her passion, I don't see her picking up her phone ever again to attend another MET gala. 
 
I can't imagine another major label signing her after her Capitol days. Even if she's in the right, Capitol will probably end her reputation among their peers. Indie labels have little to no money and we know she wants better budgets. So...? 
 
I hope I'm wrong but I'm pretty pessimistic about her situation and Masochism existence for now. 

Honestly I feel like it's very bad for her and for us. 
 
We won't hear about her and the tracks she worked on will forever be vaulted.
 
She's 100% too lazy to try and book shows or interviews herself. I don't know if Capitol was still doing basic advertizing for her, but I imagine they did because she doesn't seem like the type to care about that. Like, if she was still late to sing even though it's her passion, I don't see her picking up her phone ever again to attend another MET gala. 
 
I can't imagine another major label signing her after her Capitol days. Even if she's in the right, Capitol will probably end her reputation among their peers. Indie labels have little to no money and we know she wants better budgets. So...? 
 
I hope I'm wrong but I'm pretty pessimistic about her situation and Masochism existence for now. 

Honestly I feel like it's very bad for her and for us. 
 
We won't hear about her and the tracks she worked on will forever be vaulted.
 
She's 100% too lazy to try and book shows or interviews herself. I don't know if Capitol was still doing basic advertizing for her, but I imagine they did because she doesn't seem like the type to care about that. Like, if she was still late to sing even though it's her passion, I don't see her picking up her phone ever again to attend another MET gala. 
 
I can't imagine another major label signing her after her Capitol days. Even if she's in the right, Capitol will probably end her reputation among their peers. Indie labels have little to no money and we know she wants better budgets. So...? 
 
I hope I'm wrong but I'm pretty pessimistic about her situation and Masochism existence for now. 

Honestly I feel like it's very bad for her and for us. 
 
We won't hear about her and the tracks she worked on will forever be vaulted.
 
She's 100% too lazy to try and book shows or interviews herself. I don't know if Capitol was still doing basic advertizing for her, but I imagine they did because she doesn't seem like the type to care about that. Like, if she was still late to sing even though it's her passion, I don't see her picking up her phone ever again to attend another MET gala. 
 
I can't imagine another major label signing her after her Capitol days. Even if she's in the right, Capitol will probably end her reputation among their peers. Indie labels have little to no money and we know she wants better budgets. So...? 
 
I hope I'm wrong but I'm pretty pessimistic about her situation and Masochism existence for now. 

Honestly I feel like it's very bad for her and for us. 
 
We won't hear about her and the tracks she worked on will forever be vaulted.
 
She's 100% too lazy to try and book shows or interviews herself. I don't know if Capitol was still doing basic advertizing for her, but I imagine they did because she doesn't seem like the type to care about that. Like, if she was still late to sing even though it's her passion, I don't see her picking up her phone ever again to attend another MET gala. 
 
I can't imagine another major label signing her after her Capitol days. Even if she's in the right, Capitol will probably end her reputation among their peers. Indie labels have little to no money and we know she wants better budgets. So...? 
 
I hope I'm wrong but I'm pretty pessimistic about her situation and Masochism existence for now. 

I'm liking this comment. I mean, I still can't, but I'm liking this comment lmao.
I was soooo happy when I saw Nov 3 in the trailer just to be crushed when I searched for a cinema nearby 
 
Right? It's such a weird thing to expect lmao. Of course the actors won't look like the people they portray... because they're not these people. Their performance is more important. That's what acting is. 
I really like the actors' mannerisms we saw in the trailer. They might not look the part but it seems they're doing a really good job. Plus, I trust Sofia's vision to give us a raw, truthful and nuanced version of Priscilla's story. 

I'm liking this comment. I mean, I still can't, but I'm liking this comment lmao.
I was soooo happy when I saw Nov 3 in the trailer just to be crushed when I searched for a cinema nearby 
 
Right? It's such a weird thing to expect lmao. Of course the actors won't look like the people they portray... because they're not these people. Their performance is more important. That's what acting is. 
I really like the actors' mannerisms we saw in the trailer. They might not look the part but it seems they're doing a really good job. Plus, I trust Sofia's vision to give us a raw, truthful and nuanced version of Priscilla's story. 

I'm just as confused. I'm also a Nov 4 baby (hi ) and I, too, wanted to see it for my birthday. 

I agree with everything you've posted, but I have to add to that: Palestine is all innocent. Hamas might be tied to Palestine but it isn't Palestine. It's kinda like the IRA/Ireland: the actions of one group shouldn't condemn civilians... especially when Israel has the means to send troops instead of blindly bombing lands. They're deliberately choosing to kill innocents. 
 
They're also currently bombing the West Bank despite Hamas having no ties to Jordanians. Basically, they're using the deaths of their own people as an excuse to further expand the occupation. 
 
What makes me super mad about that letter, though, is that line about Hamas terrorizing Palestine for 15 years. What a way to twist the truth... Israel has been deporting and purging Palestine for 70 years now, but I guess it's not important in the slightest 
 
 
Exactly. Every country defending Israel is just protecting their interest. It has nothing to do with the fact they're Jews or surviving children of the Shoah. They couldn't care less about that. If they were truly shocked and moved by genocide, they would have lifted a finger for the freedom of Palestine long ago.
 
Those hypocrites also would have welcomed Jews when they needed a place the most (Palestine wasn't even the promise land... Many Jews back in the day sought refuge in America, but were drove back because no one wanted them. It was apparently easier to give them a piece of land Western countries didn't truly own.)
 
Also, friendly reminder that not every Jew is pro-Israel and even not every Israeli is pro-Israel (in the sense they're not ok with their government's decisions) just like not every Palestinian is pro-Hamas. All those civilians, whether they're from Israel or Palestine, mostly want peace. They're all victims of the actions of their own government, and that's what's so tragic. 
 
All those celebs picking sides like it's a fucking football game are privileged, ignorant assholes sheltered in a safe country. When they praise Biden leadership, they just ignore the wish of agonizing populations that are fucking tired of politics and just want to be able to live another day. 

I obviously don't know what's on her mind but it's hard for me to believe she wouldn't condemn the killing of civilians if she knew the truth. Lana is out of touch, she's always been. Unless she shows true support for Israel, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. I don't think she has political or personal reason to do so anyway. It's not too far fetched to think she genuinely believes she's doing the right thing. When you're not informed, it's hard not to believe such massive propaganda.

First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
 
Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 

I'm a little sad and annoyed but honestly ? Not surprised at all. She's always been ignorant. I hate to be reminded of that, but she did write QFTC and she did date that awful cop (among other stuff).
 
Most of the time, her heart probably is in the right place but you obviously can't do good if you're not informed enough. 
 
I wouldn't be surprised she has no clue about the situation in Palestine and just saw there was hostages and went with the narrative pushed by the pro-Israel propaganda. 
 
 

Still can't like posts but I would if I could. 

I agree with everything you've posted, but I have to add to that: Palestine is all innocent. Hamas might be tied to Palestine but it isn't Palestine. It's kinda like the IRA/Ireland: the actions of one group shouldn't condemn civilians... especially when Israel has the means to send troops instead of blindly bombing lands. They're deliberately choosing to kill innocents. 
 
They're also currently bombing the West Bank despite Hamas having no ties to Jordanians. Basically, they're using the deaths of their own people as an excuse to further expand the occupation. 
 
What makes me super mad about that letter, though, is that line about Hamas terrorizing Palestine for 15 years. What a way to twist the truth... Israel has been deporting and purging Palestine for 70 years now, but I guess it's not important in the slightest 
 
 
Exactly. Every country defending Israel is just protecting their interest. It has nothing to do with the fact they're Jews or surviving children of the Shoah. They couldn't care less about that. If they were truly shocked and moved by genocide, they would have lifted a finger for the freedom of Palestine long ago.
 
Those hypocrites also would have welcomed Jews when they needed a place the most (Palestine wasn't even the promise land... Many Jews back in the day sought refuge in America, but were drove back because no one wanted them. It was apparently easier to give them a piece of land Western countries didn't truly own.)
 
Also, friendly reminder that not every Jew is pro-Israel and even not every Israeli is pro-Israel (in the sense they're not ok with their government's decisions) just like not every Palestinian is pro-Hamas. All those civilians, whether they're from Israel or Palestine, mostly want peace. They're all victims of the actions of their own government, and that's what's so tragic. 
 
All those celebs picking sides like it's a fucking football game are privileged, ignorant assholes sheltered in a safe country. When they praise Biden leadership, they just ignore the wish of agonizing populations that are fucking tired of politics and just want to be able to live another day. 

First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
 
Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 

First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
 
Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 

I obviously don't know what's on her mind but it's hard for me to believe she wouldn't condemn the killing of civilians if she knew the truth. Lana is out of touch, she's always been. Unless she shows true support for Israel, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. I don't think she has political or personal reason to do so anyway. It's not too far fetched to think she genuinely believes she's doing the right thing. When you're not informed, it's hard not to believe such massive propaganda.

I'm a little sad and annoyed but honestly ? Not surprised at all. She's always been ignorant. I hate to be reminded of that, but she did write QFTC and she did date that awful cop (among other stuff).
 
Most of the time, her heart probably is in the right place but you obviously can't do good if you're not informed enough. 
 
I wouldn't be surprised she has no clue about the situation in Palestine and just saw there was hostages and went with the narrative pushed by the pro-Israel propaganda. 
 
 

Still can't like posts but I would if I could. 

Seriously, it made me sigh in disbelief lmaoo. I was 100% sure that ISIS was Daech (that's how we call it in France) but I had to double check if Hamas was also called like that in English. I couldn't comprehend why was ISIS suddenly on the table 
 
It really shows you that people have absolutely little to no idea about what's happening in Middle East. I hate oversimplification and misinformation so much. 

First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
 
Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 

If it can enlighten people as to why this letter is so criticized:
It is mostly full of shit regarding the conflict. It's not only poorly worded but plain disgusting when you read between the lines.
Of course it's a good thing to ask for the release of hostages and I sure hope all of them are safe and will soon go back to their family, unharmed.
 
But:
"Thank you for your unshakable moral conviction"
I wouldn't qualify funding the bombing of civilians to be an unshakable moral conviction, but ok.
 
"and for the Palestinians who have also been terrorized, oppressed, and victimized by Hamas"
Totally shifting the Apartheid politics perpetuated by Israel on the enemy's side. It's a gross manipulation I can't overlook. Anyone with two brain cells and access to Internet can learn how Israel deported, murdered, jailed Palestinians and destroyed any of their infrastructures since late 40s.
Also, Israel helped create Hamas in the 80s to politically destabilize Palestine and smother any Palestinian authority to face them. Just saying.
 
"We all want the same thing: freedom for Israelis and Palestinians to live side by side in peace"
I believe these celebs they do. But the government of Israel don't. None of their actions show a urge to make peace. Look up the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. 
Or the shady stuff surrounding Marwan Barghouti. Some Palestinian politicians could have led a pacific government had Israel not throw a wrench in the gears.
 
"And most urgently, in this moment, freedom for the hostages."
The wounded in Gaza having no access to water or really any ressources to even survive are just as important. No mention of Palestinians being bombed without the possibility of escaping, as Israel is encircling them. They're literally in an open-air prison. Their fate isn't different from hostages.
 
A true peace statement would call for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid. That letter is garbage.

First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
 
Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 

First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
 
Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement. 

First of all, it's not ISIS but Hamas.
Then, the vile actions of Hamas shouldn't result in the death of thousands of innocent civilians, that have nothing to do with those (especially considering most of the population in Gaza is underage and couldn't vote for Hamas in 2006).
Finally, there was another letter (Artists 4 Ceasefire) that was way more nuanced and definitely hurting for both sides. 
 
Also, I can't believe I'm writing that: encouraging Israel bombings will never be a pro-peace statement.