LDR Album Process Discussion

[ImenaOphelia 9,663]

@BlackoutZone sorry for @ but im kinda confused - could u list real & fake syth versions we've got? 

[Pico Ocean Boulevard 41,094]

I'm shook, shocked & speechless

Thank you so much for all the information & clarifying

So we lived in a lie for years 

Ok but still very glad we have Fine China & Your Girl in some form bc never hearing them would be super sad & tragic but yeah it's good to know the truth now even though it took some time,  but I'm a bit mad bc we probably almost got the Fine China real version in good quality on BB but then Lana said no. We were so close yet so far

 

This all so crazy  

Absolutely loved the string version of Yes To Heaven,  a bit bittersweet it never was a real thing but Patrick snapped with those strings either way 

[PatentLeatherDoOver 25,783]

Can I ask if Ocean Blvd sounds like the rest of the record? Or is that too close to giving info about the other tracks (ignore A&W of course)

[HeyBlueBaby 3,332]

So, the only legit YTH version is that “Honeymoon Version”? Or

 

and I thought we had YG demo? So that’s an edit too?

It’s all so confusing!

[the ocean 67,601]

25 minutes ago, ImenaOphelia said:

is this correct? i'm kind of lost ngl

ultraviolence final doesn't exist, james ford was the last to be considered for UV

[ImenaOphelia 9,663]

Just now, This Feeling said:

So, the only legit YTH version is that “Honeymoon Version”? Or

 

and I thought we had YG demo? So that’s an edit too?

It’s all so confusing!

the legit ones are honeymoon version & its demo if i understand right

[Fingertips 72,043]

It kind of makes sense that only two versions of Yes to Heaven we have are real. The "fake" ones are so bad 

[Dark Angel 202,395]

Just now, This Feeling said:

So, the only legit YTH version is that “Honeymoon Version”? Or

 

and I thought we had YG demo? So that’s an edit too?

It’s all so confusing!

 

these are the only two real versions

 

james ford version (2014) https://krakenfiles.com/view/VYTzrJE5jj/file.html

 

STINT version (2015) https://krakenfiles.com/view/c333GNMNVk/file.html

[americangothic 1,691]

1 minute ago, IanadeIrey said:

You’re remembering correctly! Rick Nowels has production credits for the vocals, so it seems the 2013 vocal takes were retained in the final version. 

Same thing happened with "Black Beauty". They kept the audio/vocal takes produced by Rick, and Dan/Paul worked only on the instrumentals!

[IanadeIrey 62,021]

8 minutes ago, This Feeling said:

So, the only legit YTH version is that “Honeymoon Version”? Or

 

and I thought we had YG demo? So that’s an edit too?

It’s all so confusing!

We have two legit versions of SYTH. One version considered for Ultraviolence (produced by James Ford, the one with the “music mafia” tag in the bridge) and one version considered for Honeymoon (produced by STINT). 
 

Your Girl, Fine China, and what we previously knew as versions 1 & 2 of SYTH are, yes, stem edits!

[Super Movie 51,705]

I’m just happy that the best versions of Yes To Heaven are legit 

[ImenaOphelia 9,663]

1 minute ago, the ocean said:

ultraviolence final doesn't exist, james ford was the last to be considered for UV

corrected but i'm still not sure

[Glitter Boy 16,558]

6 minutes ago, This Feeling said:

So, the only legit YTH version is that “Honeymoon Version”? Or

 

and I thought we had YG demo? So that’s an edit too?

It’s all so confusing!

there are 2 legit Say Yes to Heaven versions.

The one produced by James Ford (circa April 2014) - the Music mafia one, which we only have tagged.

The one produced by STINT, during the Honeymoon era. It's a demo, the final remains unleaked.

And the previous 2013 versions are mixdowns by Patrick Warren, using partial stems and reconstructions he did (same for Fine China and Your Girl)

[BlackoutZone 4,701]

2 minutes ago, ImenaOphelia said:

@BlackoutZone sorry for @ but im kinda confused - could u list real & fake syth versions we've got? 

Sorry but I don't keep track of fake versions lol, why would you want to list that on the wikia if it's fake.

 

Just add the Patrick Warren version, the James Ford version (which btw was never considered for COCC what ) and the STINT version

[Eugene 26,669]

2 minutes ago, This Feeling said:

So, the only legit YTH version is that “Honeymoon Version”? Or

 

and I thought we had YG demo? So that’s an edit too?

It’s all so confusing!

The Honeymoon version and the version tagged musicmafia (which is actually the James Ford version).

[Get Drunk 17,971]

1 hour ago, evalionisameme said:

This was a member here who stated ages ago they were mostly stem edits-can’t remember who?

I remember people speculating that Your Girl was a file pack of stems and then the leaked version was ‘put together’ by Eclipse, but I think that was pure speculation and might be what you’re remembering?

 

Your Girl does sound a little bit off like I’m not surprised by it, but FC and SYTH are a shock!

[The Dragonslayer 1,074]

@BlackoutZone do you ever plan on sharing any mp3s with us were ofc very grateful for this info, but it hurts to find out that some of my favorite songs of the last few years are edited 

[IanadeIrey 62,021]

2 minutes ago, americangothic said:

Same thing happened with "Black Beauty". They kept the audio/vocal takes produced by Rick, and Dan/Paul worked only on the instrumentals!

Yes, that’s right! I actually think only Rick and Paul have credits on Black Beauty. And that also happened with Ultraviolence, as most of the vocals from Dan Heath’s 2013 demo were in the final version too!

[West Coast 45,795]

Is there a Cruel World demo, or Rick version? Or was that a song she made with Blake and Dan without Rick being involved? And also follow up question: did she consider a different opening track at some point? @BlackoutZone

[honeymo0n 8,622]

this is why i have trust issues