yourolllikethunder 4,886 Posted June 30, 2021 Did anyone else watch Sour Prom?! It was so fun! Aesthetic queen with impressive talent and work ethic, we love to see it 3 Quote I write/release my own music—if you’re bored, you can stream my witchy ode to 90s alt/shoegaze, 2:30 is 🔥 👀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Get Drunk 17,972 Posted July 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, BluebirdXO said: Lana also borrowed many things. Olivia is just a regular teen trying to make her way. I hate that Courtney Love post I think Olivia doesn't get much artistic direction to be honest. Her album was very quickly rushed, and she's very young. She probably has most things chosen for her and she just says yes/no to them, if even that. So, I can see why it looks cruel for Courtney to go after such a young girl but the issue needs to be called out that a major label is pushing a young artist for a cash grab and in the meantime is stealing other people's work. I feel bad for Olivia but also for the other artists who have had their art ripped off by the label writing & producing songs for Olivia. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluebirdXO 7,679 Posted July 2, 2021 4 hours ago, VioletBunny said: I think Olivia doesn't get much artistic direction to be honest. Her album was very quickly rushed, and she's very young. She probably has most things chosen for her and she just says yes/no to them, if even that. So, I can see why it looks cruel for Courtney to go after such a young girl but the issue needs to be called out that a major label is pushing a young artist for a cash grab and in the meantime is stealing other people's work. I feel bad for Olivia but also for the other artists who have had their art ripped off by the label writing & producing songs for Olivia. Wasn't Sour Prom took from Carrie? Courtney didn't invent the crying beauty queen. Other artists used the same concept before and after Courtney. It's not as original as the Houses of Holy for example (even that wasn't original. It was inspired by a book). She's an adult and Olivia is an insecure teen. The best way of solving this would have been calling her team on private and even sue if she was so sure that this an original concept. She credited Taylor and Jack for sampling New Year's Day and I believe that she should also have credited Paramore. Spoiler We also could enter into a much deeper discussion. Ideas and concepts are borrowed many times in art. Picasso stole concepts, Balanchine stole it, Elvis did it too. Is this ethical? We're still finding out. I don't believe in plagiarism in the objective sense of the word. If you bring to the subjective, I still don't believe it depending on the case, but some people do. Me and my friends discussed it a few months ago and we arrived to nowhere. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Get Drunk 17,972 Posted July 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, BluebirdXO said: Wasn't Sour Prom took from Carrie? Courtney didn't invent the crying beauty queen. Other artists used the same concept before and after Courtney. It's not as original as the Houses of Holy for example (even that wasn't original. It was inspired by a book). She's an adult and Olivia is an insecure teen. The best way of solving this would have been calling her team on private and even sue if she was so sure that this an original concept. She credited Taylor and Jack for sampling New Year's Day and I believe that she should also have credited Paramore. Hide contents We also could enter into a much deeper discussion. Ideas and concepts are borrowed many times in art. Picasso stole concepts, Balanchine stole it, Elvis did it too. Is this ethical? We're still finding out. I don't believe in plagiarism in the objective sense of the word. If you bring to the subjective, I still don't believe it depending on the case, but some people do. Me and my friends discussed it a few months ago and we arrived to nowhere. Honestly, yeah. The discussion could go round in circles and I just think it’s evil that powerful industry figures are allowing Olivia to be a scapegoat for money. You’re right though, Courtney should know better than to call out Olivia publicly when it most likely isn’t her fault (if there is even fault to be had). ive also never really looked at imagery as plagiarism, it’s a much different experience than listening. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lamms 11,605 Posted July 13, 2021 going back to it, i have to say that the cursive singing isn't as jaring as i initially found it to be. it's a very enjoyable album after all and deserves its success. now i kinda wished she dropped a deluxe version though, because it still feels too short. 3 Quote ???????, ??? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flamingos 564 Posted July 14, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 6:30 AM, yourolllikethunder said: Did anyone else watch Sour Prom?! It was so fun! Aesthetic queen with impressive talent and work ethic, we love to see it The Happier/Deja Vu mix at the beginning was very nice, Driver‘s License was so far her strongest live performance, to me. Good For U is my favorite song on the album but everytime she performs it live it just doesn’t click. Her live version of it is so boring. 2 Quote 💜 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clementines 9,893 Posted July 14, 2021 i can’t stop listening to sour it’s truly the best album of the year so far 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13beachess 7,616 Posted July 30, 2021 Listening to her album for the first time (the only song of hers I've listened to before is Drivers License once or twice). So far it's quite good, I'd say! 2 Quote If I get a little prettier can I be your baby? I believe in Flipside/Is This Happiness?/Your Girl supremacy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanilla Icy 29,602 Posted August 12, 2021 olivia said dark but just a game is one of her all time favorite songs 4 Quote i love you, but you don't understand me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flamingos 564 Posted August 12, 2021 Her photoshoots lately - Goddess! ? 7 Quote 💜 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweetener 4,158 Posted August 14, 2021 I find her extremely overhyped / overrated compared to the material she has released but I see potential in her (Deja Vu, Favorite Crime) so let's see. This album rollout + marketing was one of the best I've seen in ages so at least she's doing something right. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildflowerwildfire 6,727 Posted August 15, 2021 who did it better 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LanaDelEye 376 Posted August 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, wildflowerwildfire said: who did it better Honestly, Hole/CL did it better (I might be bias cuz i love Hole) but I agree that Courtney shouldn't bash a TEEN in public whilst she also took inspiration from Carrie. I feel like she just did it for attention since no one's giving her some these days lol 7 Quote SIRENS INTERRUPT THE SILENCE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightmare 9,850 Posted August 15, 2021 4 hours ago, wildflowerwildfire said: who did it better olivia wbk 1 Quote come to my house let's die together, friendships that would last forever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildflowerwildfire 6,727 Posted August 18, 2021 anyone know which version this is? it say's nothing about color just limited edition? https://www.fnac.com/a15899932/Olivia-Rodrigo-Sour-Edition-Limitee-Vinyle-album#omnsearchpos=1 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yosemite 23,787 Posted August 25, 2021 So, this happened (?) lmao 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lamms 11,605 Posted August 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Yosemite said: So, this happened (?) lmao Spoiler It's insane what's going on with the album's writing credit's etc. Can they all fuck off and stop this bullshit? Ever since Katy Perry's lawsuit regarding Dark Horse everyone wants to be very careful. However since when do you have to credit fucking inspirations? Does the album sound like her favs? Yes, but that doesn't mean St. Vincent, Jack Antonoff, Taylor Swift (except maybe for 1 Step Forward, 3 Steps Back and New Year's Day) and now Paramore should dig their teeth into it?? I was already baffled when she credited Taylor on Deja Vu, when it doesn't sound like or uses anything from Cruel Summer. These credits would never hold in court, if they WOULD that would set off a terrible precedent. 4 Quote ???????, ??? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhatAJokeYouAre 17 Posted October 9, 2021 sour finally clicking on me, such a spectacular project 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanice Jones 1,334 Posted October 21, 2021 Ladies, are u ready to cry? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flamingos 564 Posted October 22, 2021 She‘s so pretty, and I hope she will never cut her long hair like Dua. 0 Quote 💜 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
