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Geez some of yโ€™all need to get a gripย :crossed:


Hayden isnโ€™t making music to cater to a specific audience. She had an idea for a body of work thatโ€™d be in a completely different genre, some of its parts less accessible or formally challenging, because sheโ€™s an artist.ย 
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If itโ€™s your first encounter with this kind of music, thatโ€™s alright. If you gave it a listen and it didnโ€™t resonate, thatโ€™s fine too


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32 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

the lack of brain cells some of you bitches exhibit on here is astounding ๐Ÿ˜ญ i'm going to assume lots of peopleย are children to make me feel better about the overallย decline in intelligence i feel like i've observed on LBย in the last 6 months..

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anyways stream crush and american teenager!! good songs!! catchy!! structured!! with discernible intention and meaning!!

Youโ€™re calling people stupid while itโ€™s you who was exposed to valid arguments and still dismissed the album as pointless. Youโ€™ve got the right to feel this way, but your way of expressing this doesnโ€™t make you look smart, quite the opposite, actually.ย 


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6 minutes ago, Furor Poeticus said:

Hayden isnโ€™t making music to cater to a specific audience. She had an idea for a body of work thatโ€™d be in a completely different genre, some of its parts less accessible or formally challenging

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every artist's music caters to a specific audience whether that's their intention or not.. i'm also not sure that the notion thatย boring and monotonous extreme drilling noises can be passed off as "challenging"/"less accessible" is really clicking for me asย it insinuates thatย if someone doesn't like it it's because of them and their lack of sophistication/comprehension and not the music itself, and that's just NOT the case with this particular record ย :lanahairflip:

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7 minutes ago, Furor Poeticus said:

...becauseย sheโ€™s an artist.ย 

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99% of singer/songwriter/producers don't make bizarre conceptual music. are they not artists?

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8 minutes ago, Furor Poeticus said:

Youโ€™re calling people stupid while itโ€™s you who was exposed to valid arguments and still dismissed the album as pointless. Youโ€™ve got the right to feel this way, but your way of expressing this doesnโ€™t make you look smart, quite the opposite, actually.ย 

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where did i callย the album pointless? let'sย not misinterpret statements. you've got the right to feel this way, but your way of expressing this doesn't make you look smart, quiteย the opposite, actually. (what really doesn't make you look smart is the comma splice in this sentence but i've copied it directly as a homage)

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1 minute ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

99% of singer/songwriter/producers don't make bizarre conceptual music. are they not artists?

This is not what I said??? Music thatโ€™s not bizarre (which is such an arbitrary and subjective way of describing it)ย can be called art just like any avant garde or niche release.ย 
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Youโ€™ll be alright, this isnโ€™t a permanent shift in her music. While youโ€™ll be waiting for another catchy TikTok friendly song, we will be enjoying drilling noise, because weโ€™re such pretentious try hardsย 


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most of this convo about what does and doesn't pass as "real music" often comes from people who don't make music themselves. take it with a grain of salt. for those who appreciate ethel as an artist, lets stream perverts.


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I wanted to become an Ethel Cain girly and listened to a shit ton of her stuff but the only song I like is Crying During Sex :daydream:ย ugh I tried yโ€™all. Sheโ€™s still a queen tho and yay for the new album

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edit: oh and Misuse Oh is good 2

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1 minute ago, neon palms sway said:

I wanted to become an Ethel Cain girly and listened to a shit ton of her stuff but the only song I like is Crying During Sex :daydream:ย ugh I tried yโ€™all. Sheโ€™s still a queen tho and yay for the new album

crying during sex is one of my faves of inbred


SOPHIEย โ€ข ARCAย โ€ข SKY FERREIRAย โ€ข YEULEย โ€ข CHARLI XCXย โ€ข WILL TOLEDOย โ€ข JAMIE STEWARTย โ€ข CHELSEA WOLFE โ€ข YUNG LEANย โ€ข ECCO2Kย โ€ข NATURAL SNOW BUILDINGSย โ€ข EARTHEATERย โ€ข FIONA APPLEย โ€ข BJร–RKย โ€ข ANNA VON HAUSSWOLFFย โ€ขย KRISTIN MICHAEL HAYTERย โ€ข RICHARD D JAMESย โ€ข DEADMAU5 โ€ข MICHAEL GIRAย โ€ข LIZ PHAIR โ€ขย LANA DEL REYย โ€ข TINASHE โ€ข FKA TWIGSย โ€ข DEATH GRIPSย โ€ข SNOW STRIPPERSย โ€ข A. G. COOKย โ€ข ETHEL CAINย โ€ข NICOLE DOLLANGANGERย โ€ข KATIE JANE GARSIDEย โ€ข SHYGIRLย โ€ข BABYMETALย โ€ข CARLY RAE JEPSENย โ€ข PERFUMEย โ€ข BEYONCร‰ย โ€ข MACHINE GIRLย โ€ข KILL ALTERSย โ€ข RINA SAWAYAMAย โ€ข A$AP ROCKY โ€ข FRIENDZONEย โ€ข JOANNA NEWSOMย โ€ข JANE REMOVERย โ€ข UBOAย โ€ข KATE BUSHย โ€ข SARAH BONITOย โ€ข SLAYYYTERย โ€ข AYESHA EROTICAย โ€ข CAROLINE POLACHEKย โ€ข KELELAย โ€ข DEVONTร‰ HYNESย โ€ข WEYES BLOODย โ€ข JULIA HOLTERย โ€ข COCTEAU TWINSย โ€ข TORI AMOSย โ€ข HANNAH DIAMONDย โ€ข FLORENCE WELCHย โ€ข GIA MARGRETย โ€ข SKULLCRUSHERย โ€ข DEFTONESย โ€ข KESHAย โ€ข LORDEย โ€ข BONNIE MCKEEย โ€ข COBRAHย โ€ข GOODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPERORย โ€ข YUNG SHERMANย โ€ข SEA OLEENAย โ€ข POPPYย โ€ข DEAN BLUNTย โ€ข DEAR NORAย โ€ข T.A.T.U.ย โ€ข NAMASENDAย โ€ข POISON GIRLFRIENDย โ€ข TOVE LOย โ€ข ZHEANIย โ€ข ORTIESย โ€ข BLADEEย โ€ข AESPAย โ€ข BANKSย โ€ขย ONEOHTRIXย POINTย NEVERย โ€ข OTAY:ONIIย โ€ข TEAADORA โ€ข IMOGEN HEAPย โ€ข ROSE MELBERGย โ€ขย 

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18 minutes ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

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where did i callย the album pointless? let'sย not misinterpret statements. you've got the right to feel this way, but your way of expressing this doesn't make you look smart, quiteย the opposite, actually. (what really doesn't make you look smart is the comma splice in this sentence but i've copied it directly as a homage)

Idk to meย implyingย the songs are devoid ofย discernible intention and meaning!! soundsย likeย calling it pointless. Oh and since you had to point out my punctuation use, sorry, not everybody masters it in a second language. Remember you were the one who started insulting people firstย 


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7 minutes ago, Furor Poeticus said:

Idk to meย implyingย the songs are devoid ofย discernible intention and meaning!! soundsย likeย calling it pointless

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i didn't do anything of the sort. i just gave a few examples of ethel cain songs that i enjoy and provided a few reasons for why i like them (such as discernible intention and meaning). obviously the songs i listed do happen to have more structural integrity and a theme that carries itself through the song than the songs on her most recent record (this is a fact)ย butย in noย way was i implyingย her album is meaningless lol ย :kiss3:

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1 hour ago, lakeemmahottie said:

if you wish to dive deeper in the genre i can give you some recs! drone music is kinda art in some ways. Natural Snow Buildings and Boris are great examples of this, they do the music live from scratch, thats the art of drone.ย 

https://youtu.be/QF3kzeyw-30?si=xckm0Gu8pgIfeUqD

This is a good video on it which mentions NSB and Boris as examples

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5 hours ago, fl0r1dakil0s said:

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:wave:ย what's wrong with supporting CEO's? you know poor people can be CEO's too right? the cute old lady who runs your local flower shop is a CEO.

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1 hour ago, Furor Poeticus said:

Idk to meย implyingย the songs are devoid ofย discernible intention and meaning!! soundsย likeย calling it pointless. Oh and since you had to point out my punctuation use, sorry, not everybody masters it in a second language. Remember you were the one who started insulting people firstย 


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Guys idk what's going on rn but I listened to Perverts last night and OMG it was so amazing... a very unique project that made me feel very uncomfortable at the start but as the EP progressed I felt strangely comfortable. Although I've got to admit I LOVE Preacher's Daughter, I really enjoy this new experimentation and her playing around with different sounds, it's so cool and highly creative!

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