The Stargirl Pinky 71,658 Posted May 22, 2021 The cadence here: ”But maybe finally that’ll make it right ~at the end~ Of all these sleepless nights” It’s so eargasmic 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjatib 5,172 Posted May 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Contemplating God said: From my perspective, we see the thread of the text book reappear in the chorus when she sings "let's re-write history." Her own personal history and the history of the world have been ingrained in text books, more often than not histories that have been passed down by the "victors," and she's attempting to reconcile with that fact while also wanting to continually reshape and reforge her own story. I enjoy the epics of this perspective, yet actually don't see Lana thinking on such analytical terms, hahaha Thanks a lot for the answer! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yosemite 23,786 Posted May 22, 2021 She's a server... she serves a lot 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertimus 9,558 Posted May 22, 2021 Is the woman she refers to in TB, ‘then there was the issue of her’ a reference, another reference, to her mother? Or another woman the cop was also seeing? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anwdelrey 9,269 Posted May 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Vertimus said: Is the woman she refers to in TB, ‘then there was the issue of her’ a reference, another reference, to her mother? Or another woman the cop was also seeing? I thought she was referring to herself in third person 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertimus 9,558 Posted May 22, 2021 1 minute ago, anwdelrey said: I thought she was referring to herself in third person Thanks—I hadn’t considered that. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How2Disappear 976 Posted May 22, 2021 Just now, Vertimus said: Thanks—I hadn’t considered that. or maybe - didn't sean have a daughter? maybe she felt the pressure of having to be a good step mom to a daughter when she didn't really have a good example to follow or felt she couldn't be a good example for her 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lamms 11,605 Posted May 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Vertimus said: Is the woman she refers to in TB, ‘then there was the issue of her’ a reference, another reference, to her mother? Or another woman the cop was also seeing? This was already answered, but I‘d just like to add, that this could be a reference to HIADTFAWLMTH-BIHI: Quote Shaking my ass is the only thing that‘s Got this black narcissist off my back She couldn’t care less, and I never cared more She talks about herself in third person here too 2 Quote ???????, ??? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How2Disappear 976 Posted May 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, lamms said: This was already answered, but I‘d just like to add, that this could be a reference to HIADTFAWLMTH-BIHI: She talks about herself in third person here too oh yes i love that even more! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
War In My Mind 2,999 Posted May 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, lamms said: This was already answered, but I‘d just like to add, that this could be a reference to HIADTFAWLMTH-BIHI: She talks about herself in third person here too To be fair in that second quote, she's personifying the narcissist that's "on (her) back" so while the narcissist may indeed be her, in the song, it is two separate entities. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lamms 11,605 Posted May 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, War In My Mind said: To be fair in that second quote, she's personifying the narcissist that's "on (her) back" so while the narcissist may indeed be her, in the song, it is two separate entities. I get your point, however the way she calls the black narcissist also with the pronoun she in the next line makes it kinda obvious, that she is talking about her (depressed) self- the third line is basically the same thing she does in TB: she and I, but both are about her 1 Quote ???????, ??? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
War In My Mind 2,999 Posted May 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, lamms said: I get your point, however the way she calls the black narcissist also with the pronoun she in the next line makes it kinda obvious, that she is talking about her (depressed) self- the third line is basically the same thing she does in TB: she and I, but both are about her As I said, when you interpret the song, yes they are both about her. But the personification of her narcissism/depression in literary practice makes the two separate entities within the song. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominikx4 25,413 Posted May 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, lamms said: I get your point, however the way she calls the black narcissist also with the pronoun she in the next line makes it kinda obvious, that she is talking about her (depressed) self- the third line is basically the same thing she does in TB: she and I, but both are about her idk, shes not really calling herself a "black narcissist", its more that she's personifying her depression as a separate entity that is not really her referring to herself in the 3rd person on TB is kinda weird ngl 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lamms 11,605 Posted May 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, War In My Mind said: As I said, when you interpret the song, yes they are both about her. But the personification of her narcissism/depression in literary practice makes the two separate entities within the song. Oh lol I think, I just got your point now, thanks for clearing it up! You’re right about it 0 Quote ???????, ??? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yosemite 23,786 Posted May 22, 2021 The second verse after the chorus hits so hard, damn....... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lili 3,177 Posted May 22, 2021 35 minutes ago, Dominikx4 said: idk, shes not really calling herself a "black narcissist", its more that she's personifying her depression as a separate entity that is not really her referring to herself in the 3rd person on TB is kinda weird ngl My interpretation is that she was very much influenced by Sylvia Plath whose relationship with her mother was quite strained as Lana’s own relationship with her mother seems to be. Sylvia’s mother is suspected to be a narcissist and had this idea of perfect womanhood Sylvia felt like she failed to fit into. Lana might have experienced the same thing which explains her affinity with Plath. I think with “the issue of her” in this case, Lana could be either referring to her mother, or the perfect Elizabeth Grant she was deemed to be mold into or both. As for the line in HIADT, my opinion is she’s talking about her mother. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweetHenny 14,579 Posted May 22, 2021 I guess you could call it...text book 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doll Harlow 12,367 Posted May 22, 2021 Lana sounds so soft and sad on Text Book. It's impactful. God, I wish I was with my father He could see us in all our splendor All the things I couldn't want for him 11 Quote You call me lavender, you call me sunshine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Make me your Dream Life 87,892 Posted May 22, 2021 old man river keeps rooooooollllinnnnnn hmmmmm mmmmmm old man riVER KEEPS ROOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHllliiiiiiiiiiin hmmmmmm mmmmm 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Make me your Dream Life 87,892 Posted May 23, 2021 the old man river metaphor 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites