Lana with Jack Antonoff at Jim Henson Studios in Los Angeles, CA - April 2nd, 2022

[the ocean 67,621]

2 minutes ago, TrashMagiq said:

I hope she ditches the “everything’s done in one take” thing and records her vocals a couple of times cause some of the vocal moments on Blue Banisters were just very unpleasent to listen to. That rougher unpolished sound only works in her lower register tbh, an off key falsetto is Not cute. It doesn’t give the music a more real sound, it just makes it sound bad.

 

but did you know that something bad can turn into something b e A y o o t i f U l

[TrashMagiq 55,328]

1 minute ago, the ocean said:

 

but did you know that something bad can turn into something b e A y o o t i f U l

 

her vocals on that song are so unbearable

[Three White Butterflies 26,347]

omgggg we’re at the jack hate part of nothing happening that’s how I KNOW SOMETHING IS COMING 

[vrtvie 2,117]

Blue Banisters was a weird album that I do not find the need to revisit at all. Since Jack did not put his hands on it, and I do really enjoy the first three tracks of COCC, I might as well be in love with this new record or despise it the way I do the critics-and-general-public-hello-i'm-calling-you-please-like-me-NFR. The point is, I happen to hate his guitar, and he did even incorporate it in King by Florence + the Machine, damnit... So well, we'll see. A hit or miss.

[the ocean 67,621]

i liked blue banisters (aside from beayOOtiful)

also yeah the youtube rips were definitely questionable but we had the original tracks anyway so it's not really a loss

[BartenderDeco 19,402]

i only ever listen to blue banisters for thunder

[sunday afternoon 1,009]

Pour the hate on me but, I had some hope with the exotic side she had lately (her looks, back to motels, bad boys, Lanita...) but seeing her with Jack has m got cold.  

I was really hoping not to see this again but I have a feeling we're going to drag Jack around for quite a while, so Lana's albums will be boring and pointless. The critics definitely extinguished all the flame that was in her, NFR! should never have been so acclaimed because they are going to want to recreate this success and it's not good. 

I expect to be disappointed again for the next opus. Fortunately, "Cult leader" leaked, it helps to find a good and melodious Lana. I don't like Taylor Swift either, but I guess it's going to delight a lot of fans. As a fan of the first hour it's a continual nightmare 

[the ocean 67,621]

10 minutes ago, BartenderDeco said:

i only ever listen to blue banisters for thunder

 

black bathing suit?

dealer?

text book?

wildflower wildfire?

[Bonita 11,776]

it's where she recorded white dress, please lizzy POSSESS HER AGAIN 

[Super Movie 50,275]

I don't know what those fucking Muppets are putting in the air of that studio, but it has to be gold because some of her best songs ever have been recorded at the studio, so I'm excited 

[West Coast 44,804]

Lana has not made a cohesive or so called conceptual album since Honeymoon. Everything after Honeymoon has been more or less a collection of songs she likes (judging by all the songs she mentions and eventually adds on the next album over and all the unreleased songs that we know of).

Collaborating with Jack didn't help in that department either. I have been harsh towards him, that I know, but he has made great songs with her. I'm just over people putting up with her wanting to downplay everything, musically speaking.

 

I just know Jack is that guy that when Lana says "can you make that part less intense/loud" or "make this and that instrument inaudible" or like "can you make the piano here sound as simplistic as possible", he's like "okay, Lana". Jack isn't a bad producer by any means, and I understand that artist don't necessarily want to make "bombastic music" all the time, but Lana's past three albums have been cute and nothing more (and I say this as someone that liked Chemtrails, but loved Blue Banisters)

 

I'm checking out now.

[Vertimus 8,921]

21 hours ago, BlueINK said:

No attack but you made this sound as if that's a fact when it's mostly true for the mainstream media. NFR is (in my opinion!) in no way the peak of her career musically. UV and Honeymoon (and also AKA) are. They have yet to be dethroned. The only reason why NFR is so popular is because Lana was trying to be more mainstream and was also trying to be "insta baddie" which attracted more casual listeners. The album and Lana herself were palatable and "easy to digest" at the time. But I personally don't need that. I actually came for the cinematography, the richness, the dark and controversial lyrics.

So if the new album exceeds NFR that's great but to me that wouldn't automatically make it a new career highlight.

 

Again, this is MY opinion but I'm sure that many longtime fans don't see NFR as her best album to date either.

And tbh - I don't give a shit about what the mainstream media and casual listeners think of her music or lyrics. I understand Lana would care (although not sure if she really does tbh) but I don't. I don't want anything careful, I want the full fucking drama. No Grammy needed.

Absolutely agree. I found NFR! mediocre overall. Half of the songs sounded "like something she dreamt up in the tub," as one NME critic said about a Kate Bush album years ago. The songwriting was lazy. 

 

And while of course 'Venice Bitch' is a Lana Del Rey track, let's face it: Jack composed the instrumental parts of the song most people are enamored with. 'Doin' Time' was included at the last minute because it had had a positive response  when released for the documentary it was recorded for. The revised version of 'The Next Best American Record' was a shambles. 'Happiness Is A Butterfly' was like three song fragments mashed up into one in a rushed and unprofessional manner. 

 

My opinion. I find NFR! to be the least 'accurate' of her LDR albums, the most diluted, the one on which the authentic Lana appears the least. 

 

I don't hate JA or his work. I've praised it on the last Lorde album. I loved COCC on the whole (no pun intended). 

[Liz Taylor Blues 17,617]

Rightful bashing of beautiful but I have to say this: the worst track of gers ever is BBS. Gross. Terrible vocals. Nonsense lyrics. General laziness with zero coherence. It cannot be a blueprint 

[bluechemtrails 22,927]

what did critics think about nfr in 2019? just a reminder: https://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/summary/2019/

[Blue Ink 5,897]

1 hour ago, Enchanted Mansion said:

I was really hoping not to see this again but I have a feeling we're going to drag Jack around for quite a while, so Lana's albums will be boring and pointless. The critics definitely extinguished all the flame that was in her, NFR! should never have been so acclaimed because they are going to want to recreate this success and it's not good. 

I expect to be disappointed again for the next opus. Fortunately, "Cult leader" leaked, it helps to find a good and melodious Lana. I don't like Taylor Swift either, but I guess it's going to delight a lot of fans. As a fan of the first hour it's a continual nightmare 

They can burn us at the stake together because I fully agree  

[evalionisameme 13,504]

Jack can produce and rollercoaster is an amazing song but keep him away from Lana-she needs big productions not subtly-her voice is already used in a subtle way!

[Jared 3,128]

22 hours ago, BlueINK said:

 The only reason why NFR is so popular is because Lana was trying to be more mainstream and was also trying to be "insta baddie" which attracted more casual listeners. The album and Lana herself were palatable and "easy to digest" at the time. But I personally don't need that. I actually came for the cinematography, the richness, the dark and controversial lyrics.

So what you're proudly admitting is that you're a one-dimensional music consumer who has a preconceived notion of what Lana's music is supposed to sound like. If it doesn't meet your preconceived notion, you just dismiss it. That's the worst way to approach music or any art and it's a very common trait among ''fans'' on this site. And that's why I often say that hardcore fans are the artist's worst enemy because they're the ones who try to put them in a box and constrain them.

NFR is so popular because it's a great album. The strongest and most consistent album of Lana's career. There's no conspiracy there.

 

[Blue Ink 5,897]

20 hours ago, Jared said:

So what you're proudly admitting is that you're a one-dimensional music consumer who has a preconceived notion of what Lana's music is supposed to sound like. If it doesn't meet your preconceived notion, you just dismiss it. That's the worst way to approach music or any art and it's a very common trait among ''fans'' on this site. And that's why I often say that hardcore fans are the artist's worst enemy because they're the ones who try to put them in a box and constrain them.

NFR is so popular because it's a great album. The strongest and most consistent album of Lana's career. There's no conspiracy there.

 

Whatever you think about me is fine with me tbh  I am a lazy person. I'm not gonna fight over this. I know myself better than you do.

[Ocean Boulevard 39,044]

1 minute ago, Jared said:

So what you're proudly admitting is that you're a one-dimensional music consumer who has a preconceived notion of what Lana's music is supposed to sound like. If it doesn't meet your preconceived notion, you just dismiss it. That's the worst way to approach music or any art and it's a very common trait among ''fans'' on this site. And that's why I often say that hardcore fans are the artist's worst enemy because they're the ones who try to put them in a box and constrain them.

NFR is so popular because it's a great album. The strongest and most consistent album of Lana's career. There's no conspiracy there.

 

[Super Movie 50,275]

2 minutes ago, Jared said:

So what you're proudly admitting is that you're a one-dimensional music consumer who has a preconceived notion of what Lana's music is supposed to sound like. If it doesn't meet your preconceived notion, you just dismiss it. That's the worst way to approach music or any art and it's a very common trait among ''fans'' on this site. And that's why I often say that hardcore fans are the artist's worst enemy because they're the ones who try to put them in a box and constrain them.

NFR is so popular because it's a great album. The strongest and most consistent album of Lana's career. There's no conspiracy there.

 

You've made it clear that you don't even like Lana's music outside of her work with Jack, so I could say the same for you