NikoGo 61,444 Posted December 27, 2023 I’m not a huge fan of Drew, and I say I’m not a fan of Jack, but some of my all time favorite Lana songs are Jack songs so. I do think tunnel is as good as it is because there were multiple producers working together. I don’t think Drew is a good producer by himself at all, but when he works with Zach or Jack he really shines. 3 Quote "Don’t forget me" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plastiscguy 63,439 Posted December 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, ivory almond said: ive been saying this from the beginning, but we all need to blame laura sisk ocean blvd is so poorly mastered, ESPECIALLY kintsugi which could've been an even more beautiful song than it already is this is the face of a villain So true, that's why you're my favorite member here 4 Quote My rose garden dreams set on fire by fiends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plastiscguy 63,439 Posted December 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, taco truck said: The best music is the stuff you aren’t expecting tbh I never would’ve expected most of the stuff we got on Ocean Blvd after Blue Banisters, and so I think people that are saying we are definitely getting piano ballads and/or country are just… wrong? Like we may be getting that but honestly we have no idea and the things she said are very vague and also seems like she hasn’t fully started even creating the album, and we know she can and will completely scrap ideas and albums will change A LOT over the course of creating it. So I think we are in a ride for LDR10 and personally I have a feeling it’s gonna be one of my favorites! Exactly this! And even if she makes another "piano bore" album, it'll be interesting in some way. Again, maybe I'm biased, but even her "worst songs" (according to other ppl) are still good, they're not bad at all. Blue Banisters might not be amazing, but every single track has something wonderful about it. Like, Arcadia... People HATE that track, but for me... it has the most beautiful melody Lana has come up with 5 Quote My rose garden dreams set on fire by fiends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco truck 33,413 Posted December 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, plastiscguy said: Exactly this! And even if she makes another "piano bore" album, it'll be interesting in some way. Again, maybe I'm biased, but even her "worst songs" (according to other ppl) are still good, they're not bad at all. Blue Banisters might not be amazing, but every single track has something wonderful about it. Like, Arcadia... People HATE that track, but for me... it has the most beautiful melody Lana has come up with I always think it’s funny I genuinely do not like BB as an album (for Lana standards) but it has some of my favorite songs on it and it was my #8 most streamed album this year 1 Quote ❀❀ ˖° ⋆.ೃ࿔ this is my idea of fun °⋆.ೃ࿔*:・ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigspender 8,368 Posted December 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, ivory almond said: ive been saying this from the beginning, but we all need to blame laura sisk ocean blvd is so poorly mastered, ESPECIALLY kintsugi which could've been an even more beautiful song than it already is this is the face of a villain what would you change about kintsugi? i think the issue lies more in the mixing which is mostly jacks fault 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivory almond 16,320 Posted December 27, 2023 Tbh I've never gotten the BB hate. From first listen, it was already my favorite album from hers. It's her most comforting and inviting work, and for me, nostalgic in a sense (especially Violets For Roses, Thunder, Living Legend, etc.). I'm always transported back to first listen every time, and I think that speaks to its warmth and freshness. 5 Quote the earth shattered, the sky opened that rain was fire, but we were wooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivory almond 16,320 Posted December 27, 2023 1 minute ago, bigspender said: what would you change about kintsugi? i think the issue lies more in the mixing which is mostly jacks fault to me, it sounds fuzzy/muffled overall, especially her voice. according to the credits, both Laura and Jack were involved in mixing and mastering, but Laura is more of an audio engineer than a producer, and my problem with kintsugi is the technical aspect 3 Quote the earth shattered, the sky opened that rain was fire, but we were wooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Stargirl Pinky 72,187 Posted December 27, 2023 27 minutes ago, ivory almond said: this is the face of a villain 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lanaparadiserey 23,965 Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, plastiscguy said: Drew is very hit or miss... more miss than hit, tho HOWEVER, the person that should indeed be fired is whoever mixes her vocals... They're way too muffled, and way louder than they should be... (like Arcadia for example) Besides, if you listen to the instrumentals, you can find so many interesting moments if you pay attention, but the way the final songs are mixed is so... I know most of y'all don't care about stems, but I personally get upset when a song has many layers and you cannot notice them because of the poorly job the person who mixes and masters the songs do The mixing on Ocean instantly makes me enjoy it less, Fishtail would be a hit with better mixing. That is something I really miss with Rick is that everything sounded crisp always 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Get Drunk 17,997 Posted December 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, bigspender said: what would you change about kintsugi? i think the issue lies more in the mixing which is mostly jacks fault The mixing is fine I think, Laura just likes to compress everything so it comes out flat as hell 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaitForLife 5,250 Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, GaboSpaceCowboy said: Some here love those laptop demos but hate Kintsugi. I don't get it too. Imagine an Album full of Laptop Demos would outsell every Lana Album. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakingOut 2,337 Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, GaboSpaceCowboy said: Some here love those laptop demos but hate Kintsugi. the unreleased syndrome 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lanaparadiserey 23,965 Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, plastiscguy said: Drew is very hit or miss... more miss than hit, tho HOWEVER, the person that should indeed be fired is whoever mixes her vocals... They're way too muffled, and way louder than they should be... (like Arcadia for example) Besides, if you listen to the instrumentals, you can find so many interesting moments if you pay attention, but the way the final songs are mixed is so... I know most of y'all don't care about stems, but I personally get upset when a song has many layers and you cannot notice them because of the poorly job the person who mixes and masters the songs do The mixing on Ocean instantly makes me enjoy it less, Fishtail would be a hit with better mixing. That is something I really miss with Rick is that everything sounded crisp always 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoneymoonHaze 121 Posted December 27, 2023 is lana and the weeknd actually making a new song? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wait For Life 16,818 Posted December 28, 2023 Super obscure but I just found this article bashing Lana from Fordham University's student newspaper "The Fordham Ram" (Lana's alma mater) "Lana Del Rey’s “Chemtrails Over the Country Club” Is More Unoriginal Than Exceptional" https://thefordhamram.com/80210/culture/lana-del-reys-chemtrails-over-the-country-club-is-more-unoriginal-than-exceptional/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daytona Beach Sparkler 5,427 Posted December 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Wait For Life said: Super obscure but I just found this article bashing Lana from Fordham University's student newspaper "The Fordham Ram" (Lana's alma mater) "Lana Del Rey’s “Chemtrails Over the Country Club” Is More Unoriginal Than Exceptional" https://thefordhamram.com/80210/culture/lana-del-reys-chemtrails-over-the-country-club-is-more-unoriginal-than-exceptional/ OOP 1 Quote 𝒟𝑜 𝐼 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒 𝒞𝒽𝓇𝒾𝓈𝓉𝓂𝒶𝓈𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒? ⋆⁺₊❅.⋆꙳•̩̩͙❅*̩̩͙‧͙ ‧͙*̩̩͙❆ ͙͛ ˚₊⋆ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertimus 9,668 Posted December 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Lanaparadiserey said: The mixing on Ocean instantly makes me enjoy it less, Fishtail would be a hit with better mixing. That is something I really miss with Rick is that everything sounded crisp always A-men. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delete NOW 2,326 Posted December 28, 2023 8 hours ago, TrashMagiq said: So far the only Jack produced Lana song I dislike is Kintsugi, and that's mainly because Lana sounds muffled as hell on it. Other than that he has always delivered, even when Lana was forcing him to remove instrumentals for a stripped back sound with Chemtrails. I'm here for another Jack album How do you listen to UV if you think that’s muffled? And what do you think of Honeymoon or LFL? 8 hours ago, ivory almond said: ive been saying this from the beginning, but we all need to blame laura sisk ocean blvd is so poorly mastered, ESPECIALLY kintsugi which could've been an even more beautiful song than it already is this is the face of a villain Ocean Blvd is mastered to perfection. We should be thanking and kissing her feet. Every single “muffled sound” or “rough sound” is intentional and artistically done. Unlike Blue Tankisters which sounds like technical errors. That was just really unprofessional and amateurly done. For me, I can listen to any song on Ocean Blvd. I can’t finish a song on Blue Tankisters. It physically hurts my ears. Arcadia esp is an assault with the title track following right behind it. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veinsineon 77,697 Posted December 28, 2023 Laura Sisk is the enemy 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanascarlitos 828 Posted December 28, 2023 fishtail is so underrated 1 Quote pass me my vape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites