evalionisameme 13,928 Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, salvatorelovesyou said: ya well, open a separate thread for that song comparison, I don't find it related to Ocean Blvd. yeah, I was just using it for reference. fair 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LifeOnMars 7,947 Posted December 28, 2022 57 minutes ago, evalionisameme said: Yeah, she was real lucky no lawsuit was filed-see this song further below: you can sing wild at heart over it If Radiohead couldn’t successfully sue her for Get Free, I doubt Lana would have been sued for this. The MAC situation makes more sense. They sound very similar. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venice Peach 54,508 Posted December 28, 2022 Not to start another Jack hate narrative but he always uses the most basic chord progressions it's only natural that there are a hundred similar songs out there with a similar guitar work No one could replicate Rick's guitar on Yosemite for example (only themselves on Dragon Slayer ) 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,928 Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Venice Peach said: Not to start another Jack hate narrative but he always uses the most basic chord progressions it's only natural that there are a hundred similar songs out there with a similar guitar work No one could replicate Rick's guitar on Yosemite for example (only themselves on Dragon Slayer ) The Peter schilling song has an exact vocal melody and production setup-there’s electric guitar and other production sounds in the same places 💀-it’s more than chords 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venice Peach 54,508 Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, evalionisameme said: The Peter schilling song has an exact vocal melody and production setup-there’s electric guitar and other production sounds in the same places 💀-it’s more than chords I know but you usually write the melody according to the chords you're using so it makes sense for it to be similar too and it's only part of the verses. I actually think that chorus is better than the MAC one It's the same situation as the countless songs sounding like Last Christmas while being unreleated to it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fingertips 72,053 Posted December 28, 2022 MAC sounding like some song from a random nobody is nowhere nearly as bad as Get Free/Creep 5 Quote "You can't be a muse and be happy, too. You can't blacken the pages with Russian poetry and be happy." - Blue Banisters Quote I asked Asmodeus (the demon of lust) to make Miley Cyrus suffer. I am not happy with these new developments. After Miley rips off Lana's aesthetic, she bullies Lana into changing her release date. It is infuriating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyBlueBaby 3,380 Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, GeminiLanaFan said: I haven’t read the interview but I doubt it. Doubt Courtney even thinks it. but, to be fair, when UV was out, with its unapologetic lyrics, with her weird interviews (whether she was misquoted or not), with its tragic undertone, I was sure that by the time she was 40, we’d find that Lana had ODed or something on her bathroom floor Glad I was mistaken though and all her other albums after that reassured me. And this is still one of my fears (not an OD) but that something bad will happen to Lana and she won’t be with us anymore. So that’s why the comparison triggered me. I know Courtney was praising her. Mentioning Lana’s sobriety is weird to me though, because even though she sings about it in her songs at times she’s never explicitly spoke about sobriety. Still think CL is a legend of course, but I hate when people mess with Lana! I meant no harm in my previous post <3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluechemtrails 27,994 Posted December 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Venice Peach said: Not to start another Jack hate narrative but he always uses the most basic chord progressions it's only natural that there are a hundred similar songs out there with a similar guitar work No one could replicate Rick's guitar on Yosemite for example (only themselves on Dragon Slayer ) Wasn't it Lana's uncle who taught her to play the guitar and to "write a million songs with just six chords"? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cherrytropico 11,115 Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, evalionisameme said: off topic but I’m hoping for no more mac situations on Oceans, there was a lot of retro singer songwriter inspo on her Jack records which could have lead to lawsuits due to similar melodies/progressions. girl this is literally the same song but in german i cant believe it. even though the same chord progression is used in get free & creep, i didn’t hear enough similarities for radiohead to sue lana. but this…this is sue worthy. it’s not just the chord progression it’s the same melody and riffs 4 Quote we’re gonna party like it’s 1949 ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀ ⠀ :¨ ·.· ¨: ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀ `· . ꔫ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PatentLeatherDoOver 25,783 Posted December 28, 2022 Unrelated to MAC, but a huge amount of Lana’s work used some variation of a progression like Am-F-C-G, so recycling one of the most common progressions isn’t anything new or specific to Jack I’m not a huge Jack fan, but personally, there seems to be just as much work if not more from before Jack that bears melodic similarities to other artists’ work (Old Money, Video Games, Get Free, etc.). I think that this will be less common as Lana’s artistry progresses as she seems to delve more into less conventional melodic structures, and BoZ seems to indicate this about TUOB as well! Comparisons will always be drawn, but I do think Lana’s headed toward a more distinct melodic sound with her next record 8 Quote “…and this is all I looked for all my life – to be able to give of my love, my spontaneous joy, unreservedly, with no fear of…misuse, betrayal.” Sylvia Plath Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco truck 33,835 Posted December 28, 2022 Speaking of melodies if the melody from California (2015) bridge is never reused I will off myself 6 Quote ❀❀ ˖° ⋆.ೃ࿔ this is my idea of fun °⋆.ೃ࿔*:・ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,928 Posted December 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Venice Peach said: I know but you usually write the melody according to the chords you're using so it makes sense for it to be similar too and it's only part of the verses. I actually think that chorus is better than the MAC one It's the same situation as the countless songs sounding like Last Christmas while being unreleated to it. It’s interesting you mention last Christmas because I cannot hear one similarity between creep and get free-different genres, different vocal styles, different pace but I hear last Christmas in get free one hundred percent. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fingertips 72,053 Posted December 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, PatentLeatherDoOver said: Unrelated to MAC, but a huge amount of Lana’s work used some variation of a progression like Am-F-C-G, so recycling one of the most common progressions isn’t anything new or specific to Jack I’m not a huge Jack fan, but personally, there seems to be just as much work if not more from before Jack that bears melodic similarities to other artists’ work (Old Money, Video Games, Get Free, etc.). I think that this will be less common as Lana’s artistry progresses as she seems to delve more into less conventional melodic structures, and BoZ seems to indicate this about TUOB as well! Comparisons will always be drawn, but I do think Lana’s headed toward a more distinct melodic sound with her next record Exactly, exactly 4 Quote "You can't be a muse and be happy, too. You can't blacken the pages with Russian poetry and be happy." - Blue Banisters Quote I asked Asmodeus (the demon of lust) to make Miley Cyrus suffer. I am not happy with these new developments. After Miley rips off Lana's aesthetic, she bullies Lana into changing her release date. It is infuriating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evalionisameme 13,928 Posted December 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, PatentLeatherDoOver said: Unrelated to MAC, but a huge amount of Lana’s work used some variation of a progression like Am-F-C-G, so recycling one of the most common progressions isn’t anything new or specific to Jack I’m not a huge Jack fan, but personally, there seems to be just as much work if not more from before Jack that bears melodic similarities to other artists’ work (Old Money, Video Games, Get Free, etc.). I think that this will be less common as Lana’s artistry progresses as she seems to delve more into less conventional melodic structures, and BoZ seems to indicate this about TUOB as well! Comparisons will always be drawn, but I do think Lana’s headed toward a more distinct melodic sound with her next record Chord progressions are always reused-there’s clear similarities between blue jeans and wicked game but it’s clearly not a rip off-it’s about melody and the style of the song more than anything but yes-let’s see what ocean brings 🙏 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venice Peach 54,508 Posted December 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, bluechemtrails said: Wasn't it Lana's uncle who taught her to play the guitar and to "write a million songs with just six chords"? We have Sirens to prove that (love it tho) 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fingertips 72,053 Posted December 28, 2022 I don't think Get Free was "sue-worthy" per say, but besides Old Money, its the most glaringly obvious example in her entire catalog. I cannot listen to that song without thinking about Creep. MAC is a close third. 1 Quote "You can't be a muse and be happy, too. You can't blacken the pages with Russian poetry and be happy." - Blue Banisters Quote I asked Asmodeus (the demon of lust) to make Miley Cyrus suffer. I am not happy with these new developments. After Miley rips off Lana's aesthetic, she bullies Lana into changing her release date. It is infuriating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cherrytropico 11,115 Posted December 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, evalionisameme said: It’s interesting you mention last Christmas because I cannot hear one similarity between creep and get free-different genres, different vocal styles, different pace but I hear last Christmas in get free one hundred percent. the same chord progression is used in this part but that’s why i never got the comparison because the rest of get free is SO different, i mean one song is rock the other is like dream pop/folk. the overall instrumental and melody just sound completely different, i never understood why she got sued for it. yes the chord progression/“weirdo” & “manifesto” melody in the chorus is the same but that’s literally it…i’ve listened to both songs so many times and just never heard what people were talking about. creep is such an iconic popular song, it’s natural for music that comes after it to sound a bit similar 11 Quote we’re gonna party like it’s 1949 ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀ ⠀ :¨ ·.· ¨: ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀⠀ ⠀ `· . ꔫ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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sjatib 5,176 Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Fingertips said: I don't think Get Free was "sue-worthy" per say, but besides Old Money, its the most glaringly obvious example in her entire catalog. I cannot listen to that song without thinking about Creep. MAC is a close third. Old Money - Romeo and Juliet but, what does MAC resemble? (Once a friend told me it sounded like Wicked Games, but for me Blue Jeans sounds quite more simmilar to that song and that almost never gets pointed at) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco truck 33,835 Posted December 28, 2022 Who cares if some of her songs sound similar to other songs... we all know she out-served them anyway 17 Quote ❀❀ ˖° ⋆.ೃ࿔ this is my idea of fun °⋆.ೃ࿔*:・ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites