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Grammy Awards 2024 - Lana Del Rey Nominated for 5 Awards

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4 hours ago, Black to Blue said:

Does anyone know how Grammy voting works exactly? I was thinking about this earlier: I’m a really big fan of reggae music but it’s not a genre that a lot of people are familiar with. Time and time again we see that if the Marleys are nominated for Best Reggae Album nine times out of ten they win even if they’re undeserving.  (Ziggy Marley’s wife is also on some board for the Academy so it’s likely to do with that too lol)

 

Do these voters actually listen to the nominations in every category or do they just see “oh I like so and so” or “oh I recognize that name I’m gonna vote for them”? I believe that for certain niche categories it should be primarily voted on by peers in that genre. E.g. people in the alternative music space voting for people in the alt categories. And for main awards it should be a general vote that everyone participates in.
 

Like I said I’m not sure if this is how it works but I think a system like this would avoid the “Oh such and such artist was really popular this year I’m gonna vote for them” scenario.  

I don't think voters take the time to listen to all the music in nearly 100 categories, so it's probably all about name recognition... :agree:

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I know it’s not Taylor’s fault and I know she had no bad intentions dragging Lana on stage.. but my god, she should read the room 

 

Lana as soon as she lost tried to hide her face, after congratulating Taylor she tried to return to her seat and when Taylor pulled her arm she initially tried to retreat. She also wouldn’t go up to the podium when on stage when Taylor asked everyone to join, and to me it looked like Jack attempted to convince her but she stayed resilient and stood still 

 

you can chime in that “if she really didn’t want to go on stage, she wouldn’t”.. that’s just not true is it, everyone is watching her and Taylor is happy and dragging her.. is she supposed to make a scene and tell Taylor no at that point? It would’ve ultimately made Lana look the bad guy, so she swallowed her pride and went up 


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56 minutes ago, bluechemtrails said:

I don't think voters take the time to listen to all the music in nearly 100 categories, so it's probably all about name recognition... :agree:

 

 

Obviously, they don't even listen to the music. Someone needs to do an internal review of the voting process. Clearly, they've lost the plot to their own ceremony, and lost all their credibility over the years. It's literally just a popularity contest. All they've got going for them at this point is the brand name, longevity, and the money to make it look glam.

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4 hours ago, Americanboy said:

The think pieces about Taylor are embarrassing. This is not the first time Lana lost multiple Grammy nominations in one night. It's not Taylor's fault. Let's be real, Lana had little chance of winning ROTY & SOTY with such tough competition with Flowers, SOS, and Midnights all being commercial smashes. Her best bets were the Alternative nominations, but she lost those too. It's sad, but we can't place blame on Taylor. Lana is a grown woman, if she didn't really want to get on stage, she wouldn't have. She was probably supporting her friend. Lana knows very well she is an underdog even though I'm sure she really would like a win.

 

But some of y'all are the same people who tried to convince yourselves Lana lowkey doesn't like Taylor so.....whatever I guess. 

The fact that THAT was the "tough competition" is such a joke

Some of you are really overthinking Taylor bringing Lana up on stage btw:rip:

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Viewership was apparently up 34% from last year's Grammys I wonder why. Couldn't be because of Lana's enormous fanbase no has to be something else. Makes me happy that she won all those Grammys cuz if she hadn't then I might've thought she was just being used for ratings 🥰

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sorry y'all i had to... all of these heaux are so annoying

 

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Ok, so 2 days later nobody in real world remembers any winner except for Taylor's AOTY.

Boybasic's 2 seconds of fame are over. You all should just go to Lasso thread and leave this Billboard music award show behind.

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Hopefully, LDR is just philosophical about the grammys and enjoys them for what they are, an awards show that lags behind trends. BTW, you can go to grammys.com and search your favorite artists, by typing their name in the search field. If they've had grammy activity, you can see what it is (e.g., Depeche Mode, 5 noms 0 wins; Carly Simon 15 noms 2 wins; David Bowie 19 noms 5 wins-- 4 wins posthumous, and oddly they don't count his "lifetime achievement award", wtf). You can even find out what artists were nominated and won for by following the artist-name link. I find that capability at their website a refreshingly honest admission from them.

 

Taylor winning AOTY is definitely consistent with "popularity contest". However, I didn't mind too much, because her acceptance speech was a bit dissful to the awards (paraphrasing here): "hey, winning these awards has no more dopamine for me than just getting the bridge of a song right". Maybe LDR could take solace in that. It was also "nice" LDR had such a great seat and a "virtual tour" of what it's like to be accepting the AOTY award from the podium (bummer it wasn't real, or bummer that paradoxically it was real). The whole thing seemed very surreal (sort of the opposite of when Kanye refuted Taylor's grammy win over Beyonce**), and the image of Taylor dragging LDR to stage is definitely going to be a keeper for me.

 

Misc comments: A song like A & W isn't going to win song of the year; it's just way too dark and lyrically inappropriate. OB is definitely an alt-album, but also very unpopular in its artistic choices (e.g. Fingertips being like a Gregorian chant in single-voice; I wouldn't expect that to catch on much, though I still like the song a lot). LDR performing the title track at the grammys might have been great restitution for her no wins, and I think she would have actually liked to do it, even knowing she were going to lose every nomination (i.e., as many have noted: "when's it gonna be my turn?" is an iconic lyric). Finally, her dress was an interesting choice. Someone close to me (but not an LDR-scholar/fanatic, like I am) opined it looked like a mourning dress, which I think is reasonable, given some of the mourning-type lyrics found on OB.

 

** oh no, it was the VMAs, so I'll just leave this erratum note here

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5 minutes ago, slang said:

Finally, her dress was an interesting choice. Someone close to me (but not an LDR-scholar/fanatic, like I am) opined it looked like a mourning dress, which I think is reasonable, given some of the mourning-type lyrics found on OB.

 

I feel like we need to discuss this much more. Her outfit was so so so Ocean Blvd; to me, she completely captured the essence of the album and made it a look. The moment I saw her, I was like, she looks ready to accept the AOTY. It would've been a beautiful image.

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10 hours ago, Quincy said:

Everyone knows it, but one of the biggest award shows totally snubs her?
 

After some reflection, I think they all knew she wasn’t going to win. They didn’t want her to. The consolation was to give her a bunch of nominations to try to lessen the blow, give the appearance that she had a chance. Pity nominations. 
 

The thing with Taylor, I really lost a lot of respect of her dragging Lana up and addressing her like that. I still respect her as an artist, but the award show, her behavior and the “voting,” it’s all a bunch of fake ass shit. 

I too hate it when people call me a legacy artist and inspiration for others

39 minutes ago, oldandugly said:

Imagine what the 2025 Grammys r gonna be like all the music coming out that year is gonna be so good

Like what? I haven’t heard anything remotely interesting :crai:

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1 hour ago, slang said:

Hopefully, LDR is just philosophical about the grammys and enjoys them for what they are, an awards show that lags behind trends. BTW, you can go to grammys.com and search your favorite artists, by typing their name in the search field. If they've had grammy activity, you can see what it is (e.g., Depeche Mode, 5 noms 0 wins; Carly Simon 15 noms 2 wins; David Bowie 19 noms 5 wins-- 4 wins posthumous, and oddly they don't count his "lifetime achievement award", wtf). You can even find out what artists were nominated and won for by following the artist-name link. I find that capability at their website a refreshingly honest admission from them.

 

Taylor winning AOTY is definitely consistent with "popularity contest". However, I didn't mind too much, because her acceptance speech was a bit dissful to the awards (paraphrasing here): "hey, winning these awards has no more dopamine for me than just getting the bridge of a song right". Maybe LDR could take solace in that. It was also "nice" LDR had such a great seat and a "virtual tour" of what it's like to be accepting the AOTY award from the podium (bummer it wasn't real, or bummer that paradoxically it was real). The whole thing seemed very surreal (sort of the opposite of when Kanye refuted Taylor's grammy win over Beyonce), and the image of Taylor dragging LDR to stage is definitely going to be a keeper for me.

 

Misc comments: A song like A & W isn't going to win song of the year; it's just way too dark and lyrically inappropriate. OB is definitely an alt-album, but also very unpopular in its artistic choices (e.g. Fingertips being like a Gregorian chant in single-voice; I wouldn't expect that to catch on much, though I still like the song a lot). LDR performing the title track at the grammys might have been great restitution for her no wins, and I think she would have actually liked to do it, even knowing she were going to lose every nomination (i.e., as many have noted: "when's it gonna be my turn?" is an iconic lyric). Finally, her dress was an interesting choice. Someone close to me (but not an LDR-scholar/fanatic, like I am) opined it looked like a mourning dress, which I think is reasonable, given some of the mourning-type lyrics found on OB.

Wow- so many legendary artists snubbed- it’s even crazier when you look at the person who won against them.. and I’m like who???

 

Lana Del Rey you will always be a legend 


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I think what I loved from this year's Grammys was the host. Trevor Noah did a fantastic job as the host (and I think it's the second time he has been hosting Grammys?) not like that cringy dude from the Golden Globes


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The more I think about it the more I’ve realised that this has backfired on them so hard, because now so many people are coming out and criticising the way the awards are essentially rigged, there’s that article that came out earlier, she’s getting a lot of publicity over how unfair it was for her to be snubbed like that and rightful praise for OB. Also if anything, this cements her status as one of the greats - the almost mythologised artists that have made history and paved the way for entire genres to develop yet don’t receive the recognition they deserve almost as if they’re above the music industry. I mean… look at how the scammys treated Diana Ross!!!

 

Remember Lana said around the time OB was released that she was finally happy and enthused about making music again for the first time since either BTD or AKA (I can’t remember the timeframe she gave) - I hope this is still the case, selfishly for our sake as listeners but primarily for her own sake because she deserves to be living a life full of joy and art

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