Ultra Violet 19,077 Posted December 6, 2017 I'm sorry, but this situation has nothing to do with feminism, it wouldn't matter either way if she raped a boy or a girl, both victims situation is the exact same. This has to do with how a human should treat another human.The feminism part I meant was strictly about her supporting Yungelita. It actually has a lot to do with feminism, but her sexually abusing those girls is also about feminism. If you treat the abuse of males and females the same that is feminism you know Well feminism does come into play with how seriously people take the situation And that too 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRENCH 15,450 Posted December 6, 2017 this is so fucking upsetting. most of us looked up to her n stuff but little did we know that she's a rapist. honestly im still shocked, like this is all a stunt. ive never stanned problematic people. her music helped me trough a breakup and now that Newsweek article just dug a deeper hole that this DID happened. just wow. cant believe she would be that much of a malicious person 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Party Party 3,532 Posted December 6, 2017 honestly im still shocked, like this is all a stunt. ive never stanned problematic people. her music helped me trough a breakup and now that Newsweek article just dug a deeper hole that this DID happened. just wow. cant believe she would be that much of a malicious person i know and i feel so terrible and saddened for the people hurt by her. they never deserved something like that 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caolicolor 1,118 Posted December 6, 2017 Timothy told Newsweek that Melanie called her up right after Timothy told about what happened. Melanie was all like "I have a healer that will help you!!" and stuff like that. The photo of Melanie in handcuffs is real, btw. So messed up. Here's the full article if yall wanna read; http://www.newsweek.com/melanie-martinez-rape-allegations-timothy-heller-736251 "She saw some psychic who told her she had to cut people out of her life if she wanted to win a Grammy," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp6_3hmxH1g 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coney Island King 26,130 Posted December 6, 2017 Tbh the more i hear about this the messier this is from both ends. Friends with peados, dressing up as each other, raping with sex toys, denial of rape, baby music , being homeless, psychics, ect ect its a mess. 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flowerbomb 65,596 Posted December 6, 2017 Melanie on the night she assaulted Timothy smh... Are those sex dice? 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alienprincess 1,973 Posted December 6, 2017 https://twitter.com/itsstellarose/status/938112747824394247 did someone share this already? if so sorry.. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highbybeaches 519 Posted December 6, 2017 https://socialblade.com/instagram/user/littlebodybigheart/realtime she's losing so many followers 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caolicolor 1,118 Posted December 6, 2017 https://twitter.com/itsstellarose/status/938112747824394247 did someone share this already? if so sorry.. STELLA! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escapism 6,046 Posted December 6, 2017 The fans that are still supporting her and saying it's not rape and "WHERES THE PROOF?", "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY" really need to get their head out of her fucking gap tooth. I was going to mention it earlier, but I didn't think it was appropriate (and I still don't) and we'll I've seen a couple of comments about it, but has she ever mentioned anything about her sexuality? 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultra violins 86 Posted December 6, 2017 so if the original alternative trinity is Lana, Florence, and Marina-- and we killed melanine's career-- then who's left of the neo-(trash)-alternative trinity? Halsey and??? I always saw the alternative trinity as Marina, Lana, Charli (more specifically true romance Charli) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masochism 15,401 Posted December 6, 2017 Btw all this mess got me so upset and sad. i really liked her and now it's all fucked up ugh. i hope, if this it's actually true, that she'll pay for what she's done! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salvatore 21,769 Posted December 6, 2017 salvatore 4 Quote Thoughts on Yosemite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tragic Rabbit 3,355 Posted December 6, 2017 @Lana Rey Loreen & @Kitschesque had some really valid points. Glad to see here are members who actually use their brains instead of going with the flow. Miss thing this is disgusting but I wont stop stanning her art. She is in fact, a talented and twisted thing. But theres two sides of the story! Agree. I don't really listen to her music but I think what she does as an artist is unconventional & I respect her for that. People nowadays are so over-dramatic & narrow-minded, why do what people do in their personal lives (even the most disgusting stuff!) have to do with their professional work. I remember how Natalia Kills' career was over after the X-factor drama, but she DID deliver some great music after that. so if the original alternative trinity is Lana, Florence, and Marina-- and we killed melanine's career-- then who's left of the neo-(trash)-alternative trinity? Halsey and??? OMG I literally have a folder in my laptop called The Holy Trinity with Lana, Florence & Marina with their albums arranged properly in sub-folders! I love good taste! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delreyfreak 5,342 Posted December 6, 2017 Agree. I don't really listen to her music but I think what she does as an artist is unconventional & I respect her for that. People nowadays are so over-dramatic & narrow-minded, why do what people do in their personal lives (even the most disgusting stuff!) have to do with their professional work. I remember how Natalia Kills' career was over after the X-factor drama, but she DID deliver some great music after that. I don't think it's necessarily "wrong" to listen to her music after finding out this sort of information about her personal life, but for me personally, I don't understand how anyone could even listen to her music in the same way again, thinking of what she's done and how many people's she's potentially abused. As for Natalia Kills, what she did, while being a bit inappropriate, wasn't even nearly half as bad as what Melanie has been accused of. Yeah she was a bit bitchy but I don't think you can even compare what she said to what Melanie has been accused of doing. Making an insensitive comment versus literally raping someone (possibly even more) is incomparable. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tragic Rabbit 3,355 Posted December 6, 2017 I don't think it's necessarily "wrong" to listen to her music after finding out this sort of information about her personal life, but for me personally, I don't understand how anyone could even listen to her music in the same way again, thinking of what she's done and how many people's she's potentially abused. As for Natalia Kills, what she did, while being a bit inappropriate, wasn't even nearly half as bad as what Melanie has been accused of. Yeah she was a bit bitchy but I don't think you can even compare what she said to what Melanie has been accused of doing. Making an insensitive comment versus literally raping someone (possibly even more) is incomparable. Of course, those cases are incomparable but that's not my point. I'm saying that what people are as artists is completely different from who they are in real life. If it was Lana in the place of Melanie, would you guys delete her albums & burn her CDs & stop listening to her music? I won't. (Just a hypothetical example. No offence.) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shades 1,700 Posted December 6, 2017 @Lana Rey Loreen & @Kitschesque had some really valid points. Glad to see here are members who actually use their brains instead of going with the flow. Agree. I don't really listen to her music but I think what she does as an artist is unconventional & I respect her for that. People nowadays are so over-dramatic & narrow-minded, why do what people do in their personal lives (even the most disgusting stuff!) have to do with their professional work. I remember how Natalia Kills' career was over after the X-factor drama, but she DID deliver some great music after that. OMG I literally have a folder in my laptop called The Holy Trinity with Lana, Florence & Marina with their albums arranged properly in sub-folders! I love good taste! so if Hitler had put out a folk rock album it would be okay to jam out and support it since what he did in his own personal life (yes, even the most disgusting stuff like genocide!) has nothing to do with his professional work? before anyone tries to cherry pick the vacuous argument that genocide > rape (but really, the magnitude of one person's horrible deeds is not grounds to erase another's), the point remains that any decent person should feel a moral obligation to do right by these victims and stop supporting this disgusting person's work, regardless of whatever opinion you may have of its quality. really, these kinds of reactions say a lot about how much people shrug off sexual assault 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tragic Rabbit 3,355 Posted December 6, 2017 "Allegedly" raped 2 years ago. Melanie was not threatening or using any sort of violence on her. She could have easily gotten off the bed. Why would you stay friends with people who 'rape' you? She's starts her argument by saying that Melanie promising to help with her career but didn't even write a song with her. That says a lot about this person. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shades 1,700 Posted December 6, 2017 "Allegedly" raped 2 years ago. Melanie was not threatening or using any sort of violence on her. She could easily gotten off the bed. Why would you stay friends with people who 'rape' you? She's starts her argument by saying that Melanie promising to help with her career but didn't even wtrite a song with her. That says a lot about this person. things aren't black and white. i'm very glad you clearly cannot relate to what timothy went through since no one should have to experience that, but it just is nowhere near as simple as you are trying to make it out to be. a lot of people posted some really good explanations to these same arguments a few pages back so I invite you to go read those 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Morrison 1,117 Posted December 6, 2017 Did ya'll see Timothy's vlogs like she is just talking about mental health 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites