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Quite impressed with how TV in Black and White was so rarely mentioned. Money hunny is also one of the saddest to me, as well as If I Die Young, Methamphetamines, Black Beauty, You, Mister, Fine China and the BPBP demo. But for me, I think Bentley (which I think wasn’t mentioned at all) wins the sad pot.
 
Lana also has several songs that are not sad in an obvious way, but you can sense there’s something reaaally wrong in there, which makes them sad. A few examples for me are Roller Derby (even more than Pin Up Galore), Dance For Money, Hundred Dollar Bill (cmon she says she literally wants to die on it) and Heavy Hitter. I think she’s feeling sad but is being ironic about it.
 
Tired Of Singing the Blues is also sad, in an angry way. I love to hear it when I feel like there’s no hope in life and the world is a cruel place.

can we just get some leaks

i thought the tropico was lovely!

tropico is such a good album guys don't you all agree

this is camp 

I’m not arguing with verifying facts, just don’t act like you’re the sole crusader exposing the truth of something that you have just as tenuous a grip on as any non-insider on Lanaboards. Calling out BOZ for sensationalizing is very, very rich when you headlined this post with “It was all a lie…” 
 
Consider cutting the drama and simply discussing this stuff civilly like (most of) the forum does, instead of creating an incensed call-out post for someone whose veracity you have no better way of proving than anyone else here — anyway, stream TROPICO 

Laptop hack happened somewhere around the start of September of 2011 then her emails got hacked around early-mid 2012 which would have been before Tropico
 
That whole situation is interesting to me because theres probably a lot of files that were lost due to carelessness of the ldr.fm mods </3 (I'm sure WAGTD was one of them)

anyways can may jailer leak cry kill die and paradise 

This is not the scathing exposé it wants to be

Ultraviolence is more iconic as a title I’m happy she chose that 

i think honeymoon should’ve been called melancholia it’s fitting

Serial Killer was going to be a bonus track on the Japanese release but you didn’t hear that from me 🤫

Grandma forgot to take her meds again 😦

she will said tropico is a short film

Right. It's not as if she says, states, or speaks out loud for anyone to hear every decision she makes. We know she changes her mind all the time. Any creative person knows--especially writers of any kind--that it's a fluid process, and there are all kinds of sudden new ideas, inspiration, or whims, alterations, and reversals.
 
I'll say it again: if they had 'Madonna Studies' in some colleges and universities in the 80s, there should be 'LDR Studies' now, because an entire lengthy book could be written about what is known factually about her, what is speculation, and what is completely unknown about her and her recordings--the unknown has to be acknowledged as such, especially when, now, we're suddenly finding out information and getting complete files of songs about which we formerly knew nothing. 

look, it's a given that everything is conjecture, especially given the fact that lana herself isn't a reliable source of information for these things (as @sparklrtrailrheaven mentioned)
 
we can have a consensus on what is generally true and what isn't (like the list of prospective btd outtakes), but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter
 
like, lana put songs from 10 years ago on blue banisters - does that mean she concepted this album way back then?
 
the point behind having things like "melancholia" or "tropico" to bridge the gap between paradise and uv is mainly to have a way of categorizing the copious amounts of unreleased songs we have
 
it's also kind of a window into her creative process - but again, we're not literally inside lana's head, so whether we are factually correct or not in our assumptions, is moot
 
as far as tampering with leaked material is concerned, again, it doesn't rly matter if patrick warren created the stem edits, or if a fan did - in either case they're stem edits made after the fact
 
if patrick warren created them, then sure, there's more legitimacy there, but typically we aren't clamoring for stem edits to leak anyway, lmao

someone has to ask Lana about Tropico and end this mess

a concept which we’ll never know was an actual thing for a track list to be provided for at this stage….
So again pointless to discuss this further 

i think... hear me out... i think that's bc.,.. it was ... a concept.... 

I kinda love all the mystique around her second/third albums… and each new « fact » seems to be pushing us even further from the truth  
Was Tropico ever really a thing? I don’t know. It’s how I chose to name the « album »/ playlist of unreleased songs I love the most we got over the years. One thing is for sure: between BTD’s release and UV’s, two whole years went by and a lot has happened between the two (pretty much as eventful as LFL’s era). The more time passes between albums, higher the chances are that the concept of the future LP will change direction and name. Plus there were all the old songs / demos she had under her belt that she could choose from. 
 
anyways, I don’t think we’ll ever know the truth/bottom line of this period. And unless she decides to release the B-sides to UV at some point, or unless they leak, the mystique of this era will go on.. and I guess it’s part of the fun of being a Lana Stan.

I don’t think I care when songs were recorded, some of you’ll are like..
 
‘IIT WAS RECORDED ON NOVEMBER 2ND 2013 aT 10:36pm! ThOUSE SAYING IT WAS 11:00pm are Rabid Liars fight me! Bitch!!’
 
 

"tropico wasnt an album concept" ok but like several og files of songs leaked with TROPICO as the album within its metadata be for real

Anyway leak Fine China (Rick’s Version)!

ok...? 
we don't care leak cry kill die