selly

people that are saying things such as "you're not a true fan if you criticize her / don't stand by her / agree with her"
are clearly dumb. yes i can still lover her to death and stan her, yet i don't have to kiss her a*s. just to look loyal
 
there's an account on twitter, of a fan, whose first language isn't english. and lana follows her. she keeps on criticizing lana in her first language. and she even said that she wants her to say something. then she says in english that all of those who don't stick by lana in these times are fake stans? you know why ? because she aimes for lana to see the post and think of her as the loyal fan!!! PEOPLE LIKE THIS EXIST. they should have a life. because seeing the recent events, and how she unfollowed so many insta account fans that were with her from the very begining. it shows that she really doesn't much care about people she doesn't really know personally ( and it's the right thing to do ). that's what we should all do. like her/ other artists, but not, let what they think be our principles because we don't know them personally

people that are saying things such as "you're not a true fan if you criticize her / don't stand by her / agree with her"
are clearly dumb. yes i can still lover her to death and stan her, yet i don't have to kiss her a*s. just to look loyal
 
there's an account on twitter, of a fan, whose first language isn't english. and lana follows her. she keeps on criticizing lana in her first language. and she even said that she wants her to say something. then she says in english that all of those who don't stick by lana in these times are fake stans? you know why ? because she aimes for lana to see the post and think of her as the loyal fan!!! PEOPLE LIKE THIS EXIST. they should have a life. because seeing the recent events, and how she unfollowed so many insta account fans that were with her from the very begining. it shows that she really doesn't much care about people she doesn't really know personally ( and it's the right thing to do ). that's what we should all do. like her/ other artists, but not, let what they think be our principles because we don't know them personally

people that are saying things such as "you're not a true fan if you criticize her / don't stand by her / agree with her"
are clearly dumb. yes i can still lover her to death and stan her, yet i don't have to kiss her a*s. just to look loyal
 
there's an account on twitter, of a fan, whose first language isn't english. and lana follows her. she keeps on criticizing lana in her first language. and she even said that she wants her to say something. then she says in english that all of those who don't stick by lana in these times are fake stans? you know why ? because she aimes for lana to see the post and think of her as the loyal fan!!! PEOPLE LIKE THIS EXIST. they should have a life. because seeing the recent events, and how she unfollowed so many insta account fans that were with her from the very begining. it shows that she really doesn't much care about people she doesn't really know personally ( and it's the right thing to do ). that's what we should all do. like her/ other artists, but not, let what they think be our principles because we don't know them personally

people that are saying things such as "you're not a true fan if you criticize her / don't stand by her / agree with her"
are clearly dumb. yes i can still lover her to death and stan her, yet i don't have to kiss her a*s. just to look loyal
 
there's an account on twitter, of a fan, whose first language isn't english. and lana follows her. she keeps on criticizing lana in her first language. and she even said that she wants her to say something. then she says in english that all of those who don't stick by lana in these times are fake stans? you know why ? because she aimes for lana to see the post and think of her as the loyal fan!!! PEOPLE LIKE THIS EXIST. they should have a life. because seeing the recent events, and how she unfollowed so many insta account fans that were with her from the very begining. it shows that she really doesn't much care about people she doesn't really know personally ( and it's the right thing to do ). that's what we should all do. like her/ other artists, but not, let what they think be our principles because we don't know them personally

people that are saying things such as "you're not a true fan if you criticize her / don't stand by her / agree with her"
are clearly dumb. yes i can still lover her to death and stan her, yet i don't have to kiss her a*s. just to look loyal
 
there's an account on twitter, of a fan, whose first language isn't english. and lana follows her. she keeps on criticizing lana in her first language. and she even said that she wants her to say something. then she says in english that all of those who don't stick by lana in these times are fake stans? you know why ? because she aimes for lana to see the post and think of her as the loyal fan!!! PEOPLE LIKE THIS EXIST. they should have a life. because seeing the recent events, and how she unfollowed so many insta account fans that were with her from the very begining. it shows that she really doesn't much care about people she doesn't really know personally ( and it's the right thing to do ). that's what we should all do. like her/ other artists, but not, let what they think be our principles because we don't know them personally

people that are saying things such as "you're not a true fan if you criticize her / don't stand by her / agree with her"
are clearly dumb. yes i can still lover her to death and stan her, yet i don't have to kiss her a*s. just to look loyal
 
there's an account on twitter, of a fan, whose first language isn't english. and lana follows her. she keeps on criticizing lana in her first language. and she even said that she wants her to say something. then she says in english that all of those who don't stick by lana in these times are fake stans? you know why ? because she aimes for lana to see the post and think of her as the loyal fan!!! PEOPLE LIKE THIS EXIST. they should have a life. because seeing the recent events, and how she unfollowed so many insta account fans that were with her from the very begining. it shows that she really doesn't much care about people she doesn't really know personally ( and it's the right thing to do ). that's what we should all do. like her/ other artists, but not, let what they think be our principles because we don't know them personally

honey do you what the word MAYBE mean? 
 
+ NO, w shouldn't be on her side, no matter what, i understand she's a human, and i'm sure she's not obligated to clear anything at all. we should just not care about her personal life. because we love her for her art, not for who she is. because you simply can't know people you've never met!

i agree. i don't think she has a WORST album at all
i never understand the hate for LFL tbh.
compared to other artists, it's great
also i think it is cohesive. what i don't like about it, it's the production of coachella + god bless america. she could have done better there's a fan remix in youtube 
this one : 
and it is so much better than the original, i could have been a great outro
 
i don't like summer bummer and in my feelings. and i don't like the asap parts in groupie love
but overall it's a great album. i know an album is great when i can't decide my favorite song from it. and i think it's her best lyrics album and i like the aesthetic too
 
and to add. she's never done a fully cohesive album excpet born to die + honeymoon
old money and black beauty are not sonically cohesive with UV
TNBAR and hope are not sonically cohesive with NFR
Yayo it's not cohesive with paradise...

i looked for serene queen on youtube and did not find it
i and i looked for it on soundcloud and didn't find it too
did her team remove it?
is she going to re-produce it and release it on the next record?

Whilst I still do stand with Lana and adore her, as an artist, and as a human being, I think that, that “controversial” post, was really tone-deaf, and unnecessary, at my first read, I was completely blown away, and I thought that she was not only bold, but also smart making a good move to promote her next album coming out this year.
 
 But upon my rereading, and her later posts, explaining what she truly meant, and pretending that she doesn’t give a shit, I realized that, she was just speaking her mind, because she couldn’t buy this industry bullshit anymore. which came out bitter, first things first, dropping the names was super stupid, because not everybody know her, and nobody’s willing to listen to her, or even try to understand the meanings behind her words, some people will just hear about what she’s said in the news, and the news have never been on her side from the beginning, as an early fan of her, all I remember is that everything she’s said and done, was taken negatively, the news have always been harsh to her, and so are the critics, all they do is twist her words and turn them into controversial headlines.
 
 
Second thing, the way she added those singer into the narrative, she totally looked as if she was jealous of them, and this is somehow true, because Lana really cares about the charts, and success, even if she denies it. Her unreleased songs, the way she kept changing stage names, she was aiming for a huge success (didn’t she make a diss track about Lady Gaga, because she got famous before her?), anyways, she’s got her share with her debut album, with her almost poppy album Born To Die, and her glamorous 60ish Priscilla Presley look, and her depressed queen themed songs, people really were into her not because of her art, but because they thought she was cool, she was basically the Billie Eilish of that era, she was also promoting a little bit, this was a big reason why her first album was hugely successful and sold millions, she was iconic and the teenagers really loved her when adults, other artists and tabloids made fun of her, and criticized her , and by the time Ultraviolence came, she changed that persona completely, and came back with her bad girl, red nails, black hair and black leather look, which for me was more iconic, but the problem was that the music she made itself, it wasn’t really friendly, and to be honest, when I first listened to the album I was kind of disappointed, Ultraviolence is now one of my favorite records of hers, but it took so much time, because most of the songs in it, are not everyone’s cup of tea, and the lyrics were just so problematic. With the little to no promotion she did, many people that were into her just faded away, because she was no longer cool for them, then Honeymoon came out in 2015, her masterpiece, and she literally threw away the glamorous bad girl, both the look and the lyrics, she still looked and sounded elegant and vintage, but so many fans or locals considered her and the record boring and dull, then two years later, she released Lust For Life with a more happy and sophisticated style, and more poppy songs, she was trying to play the game, throwing collaborations with known singers, who don’t really match her style, but she didn’t gain any notable success, she waited another two years and released her most acclaimed record, with so much bad promoting ( the delays, and long periods between each single, the low quality of music videos, and most importantly not releasing Cinnamon girl as a single because that song despite not being my favorite had the highest potential to turn into a number one song or at least a hit song), she tried to play the game again, being a part of Don’t Call Me Angel, and campaigning for the Grammys, she really did her best, and she still lost to Billie, someone who has walked in the way Lana paved, and Billie didn’t even mention her (and it’s not a problem, she can mention whatever she wants), she just ignored her the way the industry has been doing from 10 years. And I really felt hurt, and I think that has been the case for her as well, Because I think that Lana was really canceled from the beginning, the first picture she drew, is how people think of her now, she has become a true creative artist, but when people hear her name, all they remember is (the summertime sadness girl, the depression girl, the my pussy tastes like pussy cola girl, the he hit me and it felt like a kiss girl, and the Harvey Weinstein mess too), I think she grew up so much, and she is not in the same place she was in before, and unfortunately it doesn’t matter how much she tries now, it would go forever unnoticed for people who are choosing to close their eyes.
 
Getting back the post, she was angry, that’s it, and she sees the whole thing from a prospective, the others see it from another, she thinks that when she sings about being sexy, strong, being naked… etc, she gets dragged, but when others do it, they get praised but from my own prospective, I see that the singers she mentioned, they make the cheap cringey songs from the same theme she mentioned, but in a strong fierce way, unlike Lana, who make great artistic songs, but in a way that makes her look as if she’s encouraging toxic relationships, abuse and so many unhealthy stuff, I mean what did she even think when she put that I wear my diamonds on skeed row line (the whole lyricism of the song turns me off), or he hit me and it felt like a kiss, or the Lolita and daddy stuff.., those lyrics and bad moments she had literally shaped her career, and she will probably never have that number one, and huge success, or top her Born To Die era again, but she still can stop this, and continue with more records and works that will show her value as a true artist, well- acclaimed ones, and she will eventually have that Grammy and leave a big mark in the industry (and she already did, so many singer are influenced by her even though they deny it).
I’m not saying what happened recently will ruin her career, she has a huge fan base despite not being a mainstream artist, but it will definitely leave a stain, the way the post was poorly written, the way she articulated it despite being a poet, and a singer mostly known for her great writing skills, it all irritates me, because the way she keeps clarifying the post, make me think that she didn’t intend to make it look that bad, but perhaps she just doesn’t know how to speak her mind when it comes to real life. And the worst of it is the names dropping, she probably thought that because she likes those singers they would stick up with her, but most of them ignored her, and the other two give her a bad feedback. Now the whole world sees her as “the white privileged racist jealous chick”, and I would have thought the exact same thing if I didn’t know her, and it doesn’t matter how much I read the post, those words only seem to make her look like if she’s dragging them. Not to mention that some of the singers she mentioned has been through what is worst. Also she didn’t need to snap on that fan, I hate it too when I see people talking about her mental health because she was depressed before, she is completely fine now, and it is annoying how so many people keep on pushing that depressed Lana narrative, but she didn’t have to respond, because it just added another mess to the whole thing.
 

Whilst I still do stand with Lana and adore her, as an artist, and as a human being, I think that, that “controversial” post, was really tone-deaf, and unnecessary, at my first read, I was completely blown away, and I thought that she was not only bold, but also smart making a good move to promote her next album coming out this year.
 
 But upon my rereading, and her later posts, explaining what she truly meant, and pretending that she doesn’t give a shit, I realized that, she was just speaking her mind, because she couldn’t buy this industry bullshit anymore. which came out bitter, first things first, dropping the names was super stupid, because not everybody know her, and nobody’s willing to listen to her, or even try to understand the meanings behind her words, some people will just hear about what she’s said in the news, and the news have never been on her side from the beginning, as an early fan of her, all I remember is that everything she’s said and done, was taken negatively, the news have always been harsh to her, and so are the critics, all they do is twist her words and turn them into controversial headlines.
 
 
Second thing, the way she added those singer into the narrative, she totally looked as if she was jealous of them, and this is somehow true, because Lana really cares about the charts, and success, even if she denies it. Her unreleased songs, the way she kept changing stage names, she was aiming for a huge success (didn’t she make a diss track about Lady Gaga, because she got famous before her?), anyways, she’s got her share with her debut album, with her almost poppy album Born To Die, and her glamorous 60ish Priscilla Presley look, and her depressed queen themed songs, people really were into her not because of her art, but because they thought she was cool, she was basically the Billie Eilish of that era, she was also promoting a little bit, this was a big reason why her first album was hugely successful and sold millions, she was iconic and the teenagers really loved her when adults, other artists and tabloids made fun of her, and criticized her , and by the time Ultraviolence came, she changed that persona completely, and came back with her bad girl, red nails, black hair and black leather look, which for me was more iconic, but the problem was that the music she made itself, it wasn’t really friendly, and to be honest, when I first listened to the album I was kind of disappointed, Ultraviolence is now one of my favorite records of hers, but it took so much time, because most of the songs in it, are not everyone’s cup of tea, and the lyrics were just so problematic. With the little to no promotion she did, many people that were into her just faded away, because she was no longer cool for them, then Honeymoon came out in 2015, her masterpiece, and she literally threw away the glamorous bad girl, both the look and the lyrics, she still looked and sounded elegant and vintage, but so many fans or locals considered her and the record boring and dull, then two years later, she released Lust For Life with a more happy and sophisticated style, and more poppy songs, she was trying to play the game, throwing collaborations with known singers, who don’t really match her style, but she didn’t gain any notable success, she waited another two years and released her most acclaimed record, with so much bad promoting ( the delays, and long periods between each single, the low quality of music videos, and most importantly not releasing Cinnamon girl as a single because that song despite not being my favorite had the highest potential to turn into a number one song or at least a hit song), she tried to play the game again, being a part of Don’t Call Me Angel, and campaigning for the Grammys, she really did her best, and she still lost to Billie, someone who has walked in the way Lana paved, and Billie didn’t even mention her (and it’s not a problem, she can mention whatever she wants), she just ignored her the way the industry has been doing from 10 years. And I really felt hurt, and I think that has been the case for her as well, Because I think that Lana was really canceled from the beginning, the first picture she drew, is how people think of her now, she has become a true creative artist, but when people hear her name, all they remember is (the summertime sadness girl, the depression girl, the my pussy tastes like pussy cola girl, the he hit me and it felt like a kiss girl, and the Harvey Weinstein mess too), I think she grew up so much, and she is not in the same place she was in before, and unfortunately it doesn’t matter how much she tries now, it would go forever unnoticed for people who are choosing to close their eyes.
 
Getting back the post, she was angry, that’s it, and she sees the whole thing from a prospective, the others see it from another, she thinks that when she sings about being sexy, strong, being naked… etc, she gets dragged, but when others do it, they get praised but from my own prospective, I see that the singers she mentioned, they make the cheap cringey songs from the same theme she mentioned, but in a strong fierce way, unlike Lana, who make great artistic songs, but in a way that makes her look as if she’s encouraging toxic relationships, abuse and so many unhealthy stuff, I mean what did she even think when she put that I wear my diamonds on skeed row line (the whole lyricism of the song turns me off), or he hit me and it felt like a kiss, or the Lolita and daddy stuff.., those lyrics and bad moments she had literally shaped her career, and she will probably never have that number one, and huge success, or top her Born To Die era again, but she still can stop this, and continue with more records and works that will show her value as a true artist, well- acclaimed ones, and she will eventually have that Grammy and leave a big mark in the industry (and she already did, so many singer are influenced by her even though they deny it).
I’m not saying what happened recently will ruin her career, she has a huge fan base despite not being a mainstream artist, but it will definitely leave a stain, the way the post was poorly written, the way she articulated it despite being a poet, and a singer mostly known for her great writing skills, it all irritates me, because the way she keeps clarifying the post, make me think that she didn’t intend to make it look that bad, but perhaps she just doesn’t know how to speak her mind when it comes to real life. And the worst of it is the names dropping, she probably thought that because she likes those singers they would stick up with her, but most of them ignored her, and the other two give her a bad feedback. Now the whole world sees her as “the white privileged racist jealous chick”, and I would have thought the exact same thing if I didn’t know her, and it doesn’t matter how much I read the post, those words only seem to make her look like if she’s dragging them. Not to mention that some of the singers she mentioned has been through what is worst. Also she didn’t need to snap on that fan, I hate it too when I see people talking about her mental health because she was depressed before, she is completely fine now, and it is annoying how so many people keep on pushing that depressed Lana narrative, but she didn’t have to respond, because it just added another mess to the whole thing.
 

speaking of how badly worded was lana's post: this is a perfect example
you could have said it in a nicer way just like the comments before you did
because as you see, clearly, this is my first post, and i'm still new to how the things work here, and thank you. 

Whilst I still do stand with Lana and adore her, as an artist, and as a human being, I think that, that “controversial” post, was really tone-deaf, and unnecessary, at my first read, I was completely blown away, and I thought that she was not only bold, but also smart making a good move to promote her next album coming out this year.
 
 But upon my rereading, and her later posts, explaining what she truly meant, and pretending that she doesn’t give a shit, I realized that, she was just speaking her mind, because she couldn’t buy this industry bullshit anymore. which came out bitter, first things first, dropping the names was super stupid, because not everybody know her, and nobody’s willing to listen to her, or even try to understand the meanings behind her words, some people will just hear about what she’s said in the news, and the news have never been on her side from the beginning, as an early fan of her, all I remember is that everything she’s said and done, was taken negatively, the news have always been harsh to her, and so are the critics, all they do is twist her words and turn them into controversial headlines.
 
 
Second thing, the way she added those singer into the narrative, she totally looked as if she was jealous of them, and this is somehow true, because Lana really cares about the charts, and success, even if she denies it. Her unreleased songs, the way she kept changing stage names, she was aiming for a huge success (didn’t she make a diss track about Lady Gaga, because she got famous before her?), anyways, she’s got her share with her debut album, with her almost poppy album Born To Die, and her glamorous 60ish Priscilla Presley look, and her depressed queen themed songs, people really were into her not because of her art, but because they thought she was cool, she was basically the Billie Eilish of that era, she was also promoting a little bit, this was a big reason why her first album was hugely successful and sold millions, she was iconic and the teenagers really loved her when adults, other artists and tabloids made fun of her, and criticized her , and by the time Ultraviolence came, she changed that persona completely, and came back with her bad girl, red nails, black hair and black leather look, which for me was more iconic, but the problem was that the music she made itself, it wasn’t really friendly, and to be honest, when I first listened to the album I was kind of disappointed, Ultraviolence is now one of my favorite records of hers, but it took so much time, because most of the songs in it, are not everyone’s cup of tea, and the lyrics were just so problematic. With the little to no promotion she did, many people that were into her just faded away, because she was no longer cool for them, then Honeymoon came out in 2015, her masterpiece, and she literally threw away the glamorous bad girl, both the look and the lyrics, she still looked and sounded elegant and vintage, but so many fans or locals considered her and the record boring and dull, then two years later, she released Lust For Life with a more happy and sophisticated style, and more poppy songs, she was trying to play the game, throwing collaborations with known singers, who don’t really match her style, but she didn’t gain any notable success, she waited another two years and released her most acclaimed record, with so much bad promoting ( the delays, and long periods between each single, the low quality of music videos, and most importantly not releasing Cinnamon girl as a single because that song despite not being my favorite had the highest potential to turn into a number one song or at least a hit song), she tried to play the game again, being a part of Don’t Call Me Angel, and campaigning for the Grammys, she really did her best, and she still lost to Billie, someone who has walked in the way Lana paved, and Billie didn’t even mention her (and it’s not a problem, she can mention whatever she wants), she just ignored her the way the industry has been doing from 10 years. And I really felt hurt, and I think that has been the case for her as well, Because I think that Lana was really canceled from the beginning, the first picture she drew, is how people think of her now, she has become a true creative artist, but when people hear her name, all they remember is (the summertime sadness girl, the depression girl, the my pussy tastes like pussy cola girl, the he hit me and it felt like a kiss girl, and the Harvey Weinstein mess too), I think she grew up so much, and she is not in the same place she was in before, and unfortunately it doesn’t matter how much she tries now, it would go forever unnoticed for people who are choosing to close their eyes.
 
Getting back the post, she was angry, that’s it, and she sees the whole thing from a prospective, the others see it from another, she thinks that when she sings about being sexy, strong, being naked… etc, she gets dragged, but when others do it, they get praised but from my own prospective, I see that the singers she mentioned, they make the cheap cringey songs from the same theme she mentioned, but in a strong fierce way, unlike Lana, who make great artistic songs, but in a way that makes her look as if she’s encouraging toxic relationships, abuse and so many unhealthy stuff, I mean what did she even think when she put that I wear my diamonds on skeed row line (the whole lyricism of the song turns me off), or he hit me and it felt like a kiss, or the Lolita and daddy stuff.., those lyrics and bad moments she had literally shaped her career, and she will probably never have that number one, and huge success, or top her Born To Die era again, but she still can stop this, and continue with more records and works that will show her value as a true artist, well- acclaimed ones, and she will eventually have that Grammy and leave a big mark in the industry (and she already did, so many singer are influenced by her even though they deny it).
I’m not saying what happened recently will ruin her career, she has a huge fan base despite not being a mainstream artist, but it will definitely leave a stain, the way the post was poorly written, the way she articulated it despite being a poet, and a singer mostly known for her great writing skills, it all irritates me, because the way she keeps clarifying the post, make me think that she didn’t intend to make it look that bad, but perhaps she just doesn’t know how to speak her mind when it comes to real life. And the worst of it is the names dropping, she probably thought that because she likes those singers they would stick up with her, but most of them ignored her, and the other two give her a bad feedback. Now the whole world sees her as “the white privileged racist jealous chick”, and I would have thought the exact same thing if I didn’t know her, and it doesn’t matter how much I read the post, those words only seem to make her look like if she’s dragging them. Not to mention that some of the singers she mentioned has been through what is worst. Also she didn’t need to snap on that fan, I hate it too when I see people talking about her mental health because she was depressed before, she is completely fine now, and it is annoying how so many people keep on pushing that depressed Lana narrative, but she didn’t have to respond, because it just added another mess to the whole thing.
 

you should have asked yourself this question before commenting here

speaking of how badly worded was lana's post: this is a perfect example
you could have said it in a nicer way just like the comments before you did
because as you see, clearly, this is my first post, and i'm still new to how the things work here, and thank you. 

Whilst I still do stand with Lana and adore her, as an artist, and as a human being, I think that, that “controversial” post, was really tone-deaf, and unnecessary, at my first read, I was completely blown away, and I thought that she was not only bold, but also smart making a good move to promote her next album coming out this year.
 
 But upon my rereading, and her later posts, explaining what she truly meant, and pretending that she doesn’t give a shit, I realized that, she was just speaking her mind, because she couldn’t buy this industry bullshit anymore. which came out bitter, first things first, dropping the names was super stupid, because not everybody know her, and nobody’s willing to listen to her, or even try to understand the meanings behind her words, some people will just hear about what she’s said in the news, and the news have never been on her side from the beginning, as an early fan of her, all I remember is that everything she’s said and done, was taken negatively, the news have always been harsh to her, and so are the critics, all they do is twist her words and turn them into controversial headlines.
 
 
Second thing, the way she added those singer into the narrative, she totally looked as if she was jealous of them, and this is somehow true, because Lana really cares about the charts, and success, even if she denies it. Her unreleased songs, the way she kept changing stage names, she was aiming for a huge success (didn’t she make a diss track about Lady Gaga, because she got famous before her?), anyways, she’s got her share with her debut album, with her almost poppy album Born To Die, and her glamorous 60ish Priscilla Presley look, and her depressed queen themed songs, people really were into her not because of her art, but because they thought she was cool, she was basically the Billie Eilish of that era, she was also promoting a little bit, this was a big reason why her first album was hugely successful and sold millions, she was iconic and the teenagers really loved her when adults, other artists and tabloids made fun of her, and criticized her , and by the time Ultraviolence came, she changed that persona completely, and came back with her bad girl, red nails, black hair and black leather look, which for me was more iconic, but the problem was that the music she made itself, it wasn’t really friendly, and to be honest, when I first listened to the album I was kind of disappointed, Ultraviolence is now one of my favorite records of hers, but it took so much time, because most of the songs in it, are not everyone’s cup of tea, and the lyrics were just so problematic. With the little to no promotion she did, many people that were into her just faded away, because she was no longer cool for them, then Honeymoon came out in 2015, her masterpiece, and she literally threw away the glamorous bad girl, both the look and the lyrics, she still looked and sounded elegant and vintage, but so many fans or locals considered her and the record boring and dull, then two years later, she released Lust For Life with a more happy and sophisticated style, and more poppy songs, she was trying to play the game, throwing collaborations with known singers, who don’t really match her style, but she didn’t gain any notable success, she waited another two years and released her most acclaimed record, with so much bad promoting ( the delays, and long periods between each single, the low quality of music videos, and most importantly not releasing Cinnamon girl as a single because that song despite not being my favorite had the highest potential to turn into a number one song or at least a hit song), she tried to play the game again, being a part of Don’t Call Me Angel, and campaigning for the Grammys, she really did her best, and she still lost to Billie, someone who has walked in the way Lana paved, and Billie didn’t even mention her (and it’s not a problem, she can mention whatever she wants), she just ignored her the way the industry has been doing from 10 years. And I really felt hurt, and I think that has been the case for her as well, Because I think that Lana was really canceled from the beginning, the first picture she drew, is how people think of her now, she has become a true creative artist, but when people hear her name, all they remember is (the summertime sadness girl, the depression girl, the my pussy tastes like pussy cola girl, the he hit me and it felt like a kiss girl, and the Harvey Weinstein mess too), I think she grew up so much, and she is not in the same place she was in before, and unfortunately it doesn’t matter how much she tries now, it would go forever unnoticed for people who are choosing to close their eyes.
 
Getting back the post, she was angry, that’s it, and she sees the whole thing from a prospective, the others see it from another, she thinks that when she sings about being sexy, strong, being naked… etc, she gets dragged, but when others do it, they get praised but from my own prospective, I see that the singers she mentioned, they make the cheap cringey songs from the same theme she mentioned, but in a strong fierce way, unlike Lana, who make great artistic songs, but in a way that makes her look as if she’s encouraging toxic relationships, abuse and so many unhealthy stuff, I mean what did she even think when she put that I wear my diamonds on skeed row line (the whole lyricism of the song turns me off), or he hit me and it felt like a kiss, or the Lolita and daddy stuff.., those lyrics and bad moments she had literally shaped her career, and she will probably never have that number one, and huge success, or top her Born To Die era again, but she still can stop this, and continue with more records and works that will show her value as a true artist, well- acclaimed ones, and she will eventually have that Grammy and leave a big mark in the industry (and she already did, so many singer are influenced by her even though they deny it).
I’m not saying what happened recently will ruin her career, she has a huge fan base despite not being a mainstream artist, but it will definitely leave a stain, the way the post was poorly written, the way she articulated it despite being a poet, and a singer mostly known for her great writing skills, it all irritates me, because the way she keeps clarifying the post, make me think that she didn’t intend to make it look that bad, but perhaps she just doesn’t know how to speak her mind when it comes to real life. And the worst of it is the names dropping, she probably thought that because she likes those singers they would stick up with her, but most of them ignored her, and the other two give her a bad feedback. Now the whole world sees her as “the white privileged racist jealous chick”, and I would have thought the exact same thing if I didn’t know her, and it doesn’t matter how much I read the post, those words only seem to make her look like if she’s dragging them. Not to mention that some of the singers she mentioned has been through what is worst. Also she didn’t need to snap on that fan, I hate it too when I see people talking about her mental health because she was depressed before, she is completely fine now, and it is annoying how so many people keep on pushing that depressed Lana narrative, but she didn’t have to respond, because it just added another mess to the whole thing.
 

speaking of how badly worded was lana's post: this is a perfect example
you could have said it in a nicer way just like the comments before you did
because as you see, clearly, this is my first post, and i'm still new to how the things work here, and thank you. 

Whilst I still do stand with Lana and adore her, as an artist, and as a human being, I think that, that “controversial” post, was really tone-deaf, and unnecessary, at my first read, I was completely blown away, and I thought that she was not only bold, but also smart making a good move to promote her next album coming out this year.
 
 But upon my rereading, and her later posts, explaining what she truly meant, and pretending that she doesn’t give a shit, I realized that, she was just speaking her mind, because she couldn’t buy this industry bullshit anymore. which came out bitter, first things first, dropping the names was super stupid, because not everybody know her, and nobody’s willing to listen to her, or even try to understand the meanings behind her words, some people will just hear about what she’s said in the news, and the news have never been on her side from the beginning, as an early fan of her, all I remember is that everything she’s said and done, was taken negatively, the news have always been harsh to her, and so are the critics, all they do is twist her words and turn them into controversial headlines.
 
 
Second thing, the way she added those singer into the narrative, she totally looked as if she was jealous of them, and this is somehow true, because Lana really cares about the charts, and success, even if she denies it. Her unreleased songs, the way she kept changing stage names, she was aiming for a huge success (didn’t she make a diss track about Lady Gaga, because she got famous before her?), anyways, she’s got her share with her debut album, with her almost poppy album Born To Die, and her glamorous 60ish Priscilla Presley look, and her depressed queen themed songs, people really were into her not because of her art, but because they thought she was cool, she was basically the Billie Eilish of that era, she was also promoting a little bit, this was a big reason why her first album was hugely successful and sold millions, she was iconic and the teenagers really loved her when adults, other artists and tabloids made fun of her, and criticized her , and by the time Ultraviolence came, she changed that persona completely, and came back with her bad girl, red nails, black hair and black leather look, which for me was more iconic, but the problem was that the music she made itself, it wasn’t really friendly, and to be honest, when I first listened to the album I was kind of disappointed, Ultraviolence is now one of my favorite records of hers, but it took so much time, because most of the songs in it, are not everyone’s cup of tea, and the lyrics were just so problematic. With the little to no promotion she did, many people that were into her just faded away, because she was no longer cool for them, then Honeymoon came out in 2015, her masterpiece, and she literally threw away the glamorous bad girl, both the look and the lyrics, she still looked and sounded elegant and vintage, but so many fans or locals considered her and the record boring and dull, then two years later, she released Lust For Life with a more happy and sophisticated style, and more poppy songs, she was trying to play the game, throwing collaborations with known singers, who don’t really match her style, but she didn’t gain any notable success, she waited another two years and released her most acclaimed record, with so much bad promoting ( the delays, and long periods between each single, the low quality of music videos, and most importantly not releasing Cinnamon girl as a single because that song despite not being my favorite had the highest potential to turn into a number one song or at least a hit song), she tried to play the game again, being a part of Don’t Call Me Angel, and campaigning for the Grammys, she really did her best, and she still lost to Billie, someone who has walked in the way Lana paved, and Billie didn’t even mention her (and it’s not a problem, she can mention whatever she wants), she just ignored her the way the industry has been doing from 10 years. And I really felt hurt, and I think that has been the case for her as well, Because I think that Lana was really canceled from the beginning, the first picture she drew, is how people think of her now, she has become a true creative artist, but when people hear her name, all they remember is (the summertime sadness girl, the depression girl, the my pussy tastes like pussy cola girl, the he hit me and it felt like a kiss girl, and the Harvey Weinstein mess too), I think she grew up so much, and she is not in the same place she was in before, and unfortunately it doesn’t matter how much she tries now, it would go forever unnoticed for people who are choosing to close their eyes.
 
Getting back the post, she was angry, that’s it, and she sees the whole thing from a prospective, the others see it from another, she thinks that when she sings about being sexy, strong, being naked… etc, she gets dragged, but when others do it, they get praised but from my own prospective, I see that the singers she mentioned, they make the cheap cringey songs from the same theme she mentioned, but in a strong fierce way, unlike Lana, who make great artistic songs, but in a way that makes her look as if she’s encouraging toxic relationships, abuse and so many unhealthy stuff, I mean what did she even think when she put that I wear my diamonds on skeed row line (the whole lyricism of the song turns me off), or he hit me and it felt like a kiss, or the Lolita and daddy stuff.., those lyrics and bad moments she had literally shaped her career, and she will probably never have that number one, and huge success, or top her Born To Die era again, but she still can stop this, and continue with more records and works that will show her value as a true artist, well- acclaimed ones, and she will eventually have that Grammy and leave a big mark in the industry (and she already did, so many singer are influenced by her even though they deny it).
I’m not saying what happened recently will ruin her career, she has a huge fan base despite not being a mainstream artist, but it will definitely leave a stain, the way the post was poorly written, the way she articulated it despite being a poet, and a singer mostly known for her great writing skills, it all irritates me, because the way she keeps clarifying the post, make me think that she didn’t intend to make it look that bad, but perhaps she just doesn’t know how to speak her mind when it comes to real life. And the worst of it is the names dropping, she probably thought that because she likes those singers they would stick up with her, but most of them ignored her, and the other two give her a bad feedback. Now the whole world sees her as “the white privileged racist jealous chick”, and I would have thought the exact same thing if I didn’t know her, and it doesn’t matter how much I read the post, those words only seem to make her look like if she’s dragging them. Not to mention that some of the singers she mentioned has been through what is worst. Also she didn’t need to snap on that fan, I hate it too when I see people talking about her mental health because she was depressed before, she is completely fine now, and it is annoying how so many people keep on pushing that depressed Lana narrative, but she didn’t have to respond, because it just added another mess to the whole thing.
 

you should have asked yourself this question before commenting here

i've been told that this is the right place to share my thoughts about what happend recently
i'm new here, so i didn't knew where to put it. sorry my bad
 

Whilst I still do stand with Lana and adore her, as an artist, and as a human being, I think that, that “controversial” post, was really tone-deaf, and unnecessary, at my first read, I was completely blown away, and I thought that she was not only bold, but also smart making a good move to promote her next album coming out this year.
 
 But upon my rereading, and her later posts, explaining what she truly meant, and pretending that she doesn’t give a shit, I realized that, she was just speaking her mind, because she couldn’t buy this industry bullshit anymore. which came out bitter, first things first, dropping the names was super stupid, because not everybody know her, and nobody’s willing to listen to her, or even try to understand the meanings behind her words, some people will just hear about what she’s said in the news, and the news have never been on her side from the beginning, as an early fan of her, all I remember is that everything she’s said and done, was taken negatively, the news have always been harsh to her, and so are the critics, all they do is twist her words and turn them into controversial headlines.
 
 
Second thing, the way she added those singer into the narrative, she totally looked as if she was jealous of them, and this is somehow true, because Lana really cares about the charts, and success, even if she denies it. Her unreleased songs, the way she kept changing stage names, she was aiming for a huge success (didn’t she make a diss track about Lady Gaga, because she got famous before her?), anyways, she’s got her share with her debut album, with her almost poppy album Born To Die, and her glamorous 60ish Priscilla Presley look, and her depressed queen themed songs, people really were into her not because of her art, but because they thought she was cool, she was basically the Billie Eilish of that era, she was also promoting a little bit, this was a big reason why her first album was hugely successful and sold millions, she was iconic and the teenagers really loved her when adults, other artists and tabloids made fun of her, and criticized her , and by the time Ultraviolence came, she changed that persona completely, and came back with her bad girl, red nails, black hair and black leather look, which for me was more iconic, but the problem was that the music she made itself, it wasn’t really friendly, and to be honest, when I first listened to the album I was kind of disappointed, Ultraviolence is now one of my favorite records of hers, but it took so much time, because most of the songs in it, are not everyone’s cup of tea, and the lyrics were just so problematic. With the little to no promotion she did, many people that were into her just faded away, because she was no longer cool for them, then Honeymoon came out in 2015, her masterpiece, and she literally threw away the glamorous bad girl, both the look and the lyrics, she still looked and sounded elegant and vintage, but so many fans or locals considered her and the record boring and dull, then two years later, she released Lust For Life with a more happy and sophisticated style, and more poppy songs, she was trying to play the game, throwing collaborations with known singers, who don’t really match her style, but she didn’t gain any notable success, she waited another two years and released her most acclaimed record, with so much bad promoting ( the delays, and long periods between each single, the low quality of music videos, and most importantly not releasing Cinnamon girl as a single because that song despite not being my favorite had the highest potential to turn into a number one song or at least a hit song), she tried to play the game again, being a part of Don’t Call Me Angel, and campaigning for the Grammys, she really did her best, and she still lost to Billie, someone who has walked in the way Lana paved, and Billie didn’t even mention her (and it’s not a problem, she can mention whatever she wants), she just ignored her the way the industry has been doing from 10 years. And I really felt hurt, and I think that has been the case for her as well, Because I think that Lana was really canceled from the beginning, the first picture she drew, is how people think of her now, she has become a true creative artist, but when people hear her name, all they remember is (the summertime sadness girl, the depression girl, the my pussy tastes like pussy cola girl, the he hit me and it felt like a kiss girl, and the Harvey Weinstein mess too), I think she grew up so much, and she is not in the same place she was in before, and unfortunately it doesn’t matter how much she tries now, it would go forever unnoticed for people who are choosing to close their eyes.
 
Getting back the post, she was angry, that’s it, and she sees the whole thing from a prospective, the others see it from another, she thinks that when she sings about being sexy, strong, being naked… etc, she gets dragged, but when others do it, they get praised but from my own prospective, I see that the singers she mentioned, they make the cheap cringey songs from the same theme she mentioned, but in a strong fierce way, unlike Lana, who make great artistic songs, but in a way that makes her look as if she’s encouraging toxic relationships, abuse and so many unhealthy stuff, I mean what did she even think when she put that I wear my diamonds on skeed row line (the whole lyricism of the song turns me off), or he hit me and it felt like a kiss, or the Lolita and daddy stuff.., those lyrics and bad moments she had literally shaped her career, and she will probably never have that number one, and huge success, or top her Born To Die era again, but she still can stop this, and continue with more records and works that will show her value as a true artist, well- acclaimed ones, and she will eventually have that Grammy and leave a big mark in the industry (and she already did, so many singer are influenced by her even though they deny it).
I’m not saying what happened recently will ruin her career, she has a huge fan base despite not being a mainstream artist, but it will definitely leave a stain, the way the post was poorly written, the way she articulated it despite being a poet, and a singer mostly known for her great writing skills, it all irritates me, because the way she keeps clarifying the post, make me think that she didn’t intend to make it look that bad, but perhaps she just doesn’t know how to speak her mind when it comes to real life. And the worst of it is the names dropping, she probably thought that because she likes those singers they would stick up with her, but most of them ignored her, and the other two give her a bad feedback. Now the whole world sees her as “the white privileged racist jealous chick”, and I would have thought the exact same thing if I didn’t know her, and it doesn’t matter how much I read the post, those words only seem to make her look like if she’s dragging them. Not to mention that some of the singers she mentioned has been through what is worst. Also she didn’t need to snap on that fan, I hate it too when I see people talking about her mental health because she was depressed before, she is completely fine now, and it is annoying how so many people keep on pushing that depressed Lana narrative, but she didn’t have to respond, because it just added another mess to the whole thing.
 

speaking of how badly worded was lana's post: this is a perfect example
you could have said it in a nicer way just like the comments before you did
because as you see, clearly, this is my first post, and i'm still new to how the things work here, and thank you. 

princess diana, was blonde too and so many people think she was killed, she also died at the age of 36 like marilyn, all of them died young

speaking of how badly worded was lana's post: this is a perfect example
you could have said it in a nicer way just like the comments before you did
because as you see, clearly, this is my first post, and i'm still new to how the things work here, and thank you. 

princess diana, was blonde too and so many people think she was killed, she also died at the age of 36 like marilyn, all of them died young

Whilst I still do stand with Lana and adore her, as an artist, and as a human being, I think that, that “controversial” post, was really tone-deaf, and unnecessary, at my first read, I was completely blown away, and I thought that she was not only bold, but also smart making a good move to promote her next album coming out this year.
 
 But upon my rereading, and her later posts, explaining what she truly meant, and pretending that she doesn’t give a shit, I realized that, she was just speaking her mind, because she couldn’t buy this industry bullshit anymore. which came out bitter, first things first, dropping the names was super stupid, because not everybody know her, and nobody’s willing to listen to her, or even try to understand the meanings behind her words, some people will just hear about what she’s said in the news, and the news have never been on her side from the beginning, as an early fan of her, all I remember is that everything she’s said and done, was taken negatively, the news have always been harsh to her, and so are the critics, all they do is twist her words and turn them into controversial headlines.
 
 
Second thing, the way she added those singer into the narrative, she totally looked as if she was jealous of them, and this is somehow true, because Lana really cares about the charts, and success, even if she denies it. Her unreleased songs, the way she kept changing stage names, she was aiming for a huge success (didn’t she make a diss track about Lady Gaga, because she got famous before her?), anyways, she’s got her share with her debut album, with her almost poppy album Born To Die, and her glamorous 60ish Priscilla Presley look, and her depressed queen themed songs, people really were into her not because of her art, but because they thought she was cool, she was basically the Billie Eilish of that era, she was also promoting a little bit, this was a big reason why her first album was hugely successful and sold millions, she was iconic and the teenagers really loved her when adults, other artists and tabloids made fun of her, and criticized her , and by the time Ultraviolence came, she changed that persona completely, and came back with her bad girl, red nails, black hair and black leather look, which for me was more iconic, but the problem was that the music she made itself, it wasn’t really friendly, and to be honest, when I first listened to the album I was kind of disappointed, Ultraviolence is now one of my favorite records of hers, but it took so much time, because most of the songs in it, are not everyone’s cup of tea, and the lyrics were just so problematic. With the little to no promotion she did, many people that were into her just faded away, because she was no longer cool for them, then Honeymoon came out in 2015, her masterpiece, and she literally threw away the glamorous bad girl, both the look and the lyrics, she still looked and sounded elegant and vintage, but so many fans or locals considered her and the record boring and dull, then two years later, she released Lust For Life with a more happy and sophisticated style, and more poppy songs, she was trying to play the game, throwing collaborations with known singers, who don’t really match her style, but she didn’t gain any notable success, she waited another two years and released her most acclaimed record, with so much bad promoting ( the delays, and long periods between each single, the low quality of music videos, and most importantly not releasing Cinnamon girl as a single because that song despite not being my favorite had the highest potential to turn into a number one song or at least a hit song), she tried to play the game again, being a part of Don’t Call Me Angel, and campaigning for the Grammys, she really did her best, and she still lost to Billie, someone who has walked in the way Lana paved, and Billie didn’t even mention her (and it’s not a problem, she can mention whatever she wants), she just ignored her the way the industry has been doing from 10 years. And I really felt hurt, and I think that has been the case for her as well, Because I think that Lana was really canceled from the beginning, the first picture she drew, is how people think of her now, she has become a true creative artist, but when people hear her name, all they remember is (the summertime sadness girl, the depression girl, the my pussy tastes like pussy cola girl, the he hit me and it felt like a kiss girl, and the Harvey Weinstein mess too), I think she grew up so much, and she is not in the same place she was in before, and unfortunately it doesn’t matter how much she tries now, it would go forever unnoticed for people who are choosing to close their eyes.
 
Getting back the post, she was angry, that’s it, and she sees the whole thing from a prospective, the others see it from another, she thinks that when she sings about being sexy, strong, being naked… etc, she gets dragged, but when others do it, they get praised but from my own prospective, I see that the singers she mentioned, they make the cheap cringey songs from the same theme she mentioned, but in a strong fierce way, unlike Lana, who make great artistic songs, but in a way that makes her look as if she’s encouraging toxic relationships, abuse and so many unhealthy stuff, I mean what did she even think when she put that I wear my diamonds on skeed row line (the whole lyricism of the song turns me off), or he hit me and it felt like a kiss, or the Lolita and daddy stuff.., those lyrics and bad moments she had literally shaped her career, and she will probably never have that number one, and huge success, or top her Born To Die era again, but she still can stop this, and continue with more records and works that will show her value as a true artist, well- acclaimed ones, and she will eventually have that Grammy and leave a big mark in the industry (and she already did, so many singer are influenced by her even though they deny it).
I’m not saying what happened recently will ruin her career, she has a huge fan base despite not being a mainstream artist, but it will definitely leave a stain, the way the post was poorly written, the way she articulated it despite being a poet, and a singer mostly known for her great writing skills, it all irritates me, because the way she keeps clarifying the post, make me think that she didn’t intend to make it look that bad, but perhaps she just doesn’t know how to speak her mind when it comes to real life. And the worst of it is the names dropping, she probably thought that because she likes those singers they would stick up with her, but most of them ignored her, and the other two give her a bad feedback. Now the whole world sees her as “the white privileged racist jealous chick”, and I would have thought the exact same thing if I didn’t know her, and it doesn’t matter how much I read the post, those words only seem to make her look like if she’s dragging them. Not to mention that some of the singers she mentioned has been through what is worst. Also she didn’t need to snap on that fan, I hate it too when I see people talking about her mental health because she was depressed before, she is completely fine now, and it is annoying how so many people keep on pushing that depressed Lana narrative, but she didn’t have to respond, because it just added another mess to the whole thing.