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lili liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in 'Honeymoon' Turns 4: Achieving Mental Health Through Time-Travel
Beautiful post, I'm revisiting Honeymoon in its entirety (even Religion, poss my least favorite Lana song ever) and it's been a transcendent experience. Thanks for the inspiration @PARADIXO
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ionut liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread
If she played Flipside live I would diiiiiiiiiiiiiiie the most beautiful death
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Fingertips liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in [Pre-order] Lana Del Rey Lyrics Anthology BOOK
Yeah, life happens but that's no excuse when you're trying to do a sort of business. He quit his job to live off of the Kickstarter and order money and literally used the money to pay off an expensive-ass retina Mac and his phone bill and (seriously???) his Netflix. And he couldn't take less than a minute out of his day to update anyone about what was going on. No sympathy, sorry not sorry.
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Fingertips liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in [Pre-order] Lana Del Rey Lyrics Anthology BOOK
I mean, hiccups with copyrighted images and stuff is semi-understandable and never fun, but being totally silent and unresponsive about it is nagl and is the reason why so many people have gotten refunds. Even an update like "Still working on it" would be better than nothing for months. That's why I've had enough at this point and just want my dollas back.
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Elina liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in Honeymoon - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll
This album is like a buoy of light that I'm clinging to in a dark churning ocean
Lana saving my soul once again, I rise up
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Elina liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in Lana Del Rey Lyric Book (or Endless Summer TourBook)
I mean just let them be excited about it, what difference does it really make to your life
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deleted123 liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in Instagram Updates
Now that I've had time to digest this a bit more, I'mma say my piece.
Short version/ Summary:
Girlfriend is in her feelings right now (and I'm sad for her) but she made a major mis-step that she could have used as an opportunity for growth but instead quadrupled down; I'm disappointed in her but will still support her musically because nothing can take her music and its meaning away from me; Twitter cancel culture is going overboard but there is validity behind the points POC (including myself in there) have made; I don't consider Lana racist but she does not recognize the privilege she has experienced compared to the women she included in her post; Lana thwarted her own intended meaning of her post by the aggressive tones throughout, especially in the beginning; both this and her response overshadowed the rest of what she had to say about the perception of her glamorizing abuse, which she made valid points about.
Longer version:
I'm genuinely sad that Lana was clearly hurt by something that led her to make the post in the first place. I do believe her *intention* was not to openly dismiss the women she named, but once you put your words out there, you have to realize they're not quite solely yours anymore, and can be open to interpretation. Which I'd imagine was the point of sharing it in the first place, as it was labeled as a "question for the culture." A lot of people who end up being involved in race-related interactions don't have the intention of going there, and I don't believe Lana did. But intent only goes so far. It seems like a lot of people here don't want to hear it, but the POC who shared their concerns made valid points about the racial bias and Lana's inability to see how, despite her own legitimate difficulties in the industry, she has benefited from her privilege in ways the other artists she named have not.
While some may say it's not up to her to "correct" what she meant to say, the way she responded in those four follow-ups, after spending the day deleting comments (whether it was her or her team is irrelevant) was more tone-deaf than the original post. A lot of the more blind stans will say this is unimportant (which is concerning), but I do believe she lost some fans of color, and that is sad. Because it didn't have to be that way. Lana could have more maturely addressed her mis-step rather than leaping into quicksand with those four follow-up comments and her #fuckoff post. And doing so doesn't automatically mean she would have "catered to the public" or "backed down." She had an opportunity for growth, and she didn't take it, opting instead to react from a place of anger and low vibration. It's not "ICONIC" or a "kween" moment, as now this is what people (GP though I know no one here cares about that) will focus on, rather than her legitimate concerns about the general perception of her glamorizing abuse. She played herself, and it baffles me that stans don't see that. I'm legitimately concerned that stans are all "haters don't have reading comprehension! lolz" when Lana herself clearly has the inability to comprehend how her word choices contributed to this mess. It's not a good look, and while it's not career-ending, it's at least a derailment/ distraction of sorts. And I don't want that for her.
Lastly, I still love her and support her music because she/ the music means so much to me.
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Carmen Del Rey liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in Heroin
OK I may be insane but I hear "and all my friends have gone 'cause they still feel him here." But I can also hear "come" a little bit, in the "m" sound. It actually sounds like a weird mix of "gone" and "come" but "gone" makes more sense to me. I'mma get a q-tip
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boom like that liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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crazyforme liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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Nobody liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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stupidapartmentcomplex liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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fishtails liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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Catgirl liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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Furor Poeticus liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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ArtDecoDelRey liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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Pink Champagne liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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NikoGo liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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GeminiLanaFan liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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COCC liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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Marius liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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Poor Stacy liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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Fingertips liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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Lentilus liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress
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CyberCherry liked a post in a topic by wittycatchphrase in TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021
I went for a drive last night for my first listen and it was a beautiful experience. Lana and driving just go together for me. I know my first impressions always get revised but "Dark But Just A Game" hit different
but rain on my face during White Dress