Blue Ink

Oh I've said this openly in Lana threads, it's no secret and I know many fans agree.Blue Banisters is still a really good song but the lyrics... 
Anyway, off topic but I'm just saying, I'm not really dragging Lana. It just reinforces the idea that when artists sort of settle down and are more content with their lives their artistry goes downhill. Or maybe it's just fucking California that ruins artists since Marina moved there too a few years ago. 

oh i just found the subtle lana "drag" funny in the middle of a marina rant that's why i pointed it out  but yeah i totally agree with the california bit, seems to be a recurrent problem with everyone that moves there 

CEASE 

The cover looks low-key good, actually 

 

Hi Jared

Me listening to the sax on GPSOTSOMFWHDSF
 
 

I feel like there's honestly not much to say. 
She just became what she truly despised in the past. As much as she likes to think she's too cool/different for the pop scene, she alwas has been in search of approval from people and critics. Hence the politically correct/superficially woke/universal lyrics she's writing right now. 
 
I don't necessarily think she doesn't know what to write about anymore or lacks challenges in her life to keep her art interesting. It's mainly she somehow developped the idea that people can't relate to her own experiences and that she NEEDS to be universal. Thing is, she's so detached it becomes bland, impersonal and, ironically, unrelatable. 
 
I'm not sure if it makes sense, but for me, the more the story is personal and detailed, the more I'm able to relate to it, even though I didn't experience 100% of the events. It's like I'm able to find myself and a universal truth in the most personal stories, while feeling completely left behind by her attempted universal lyrics. The fact her commentary is so surface-level doesn't help. We get it, patriarchy made women's lives hell. So? How did it impact you? How do you fight it in your daily life? 
 
 
Anyway, I believe she sought out approval so hard she lost herself (and some of her fans along the way). It's already been discussed by many recently, but it truly weakened her whole art to try and fail to please everyone. 

Sorry to break it to y'all but I remember her saying somewhere that it was a lie and there were "obviously" no labels chasing her so Derek Davies who discovered her seems not to have had competition, truth be told her too cool to be indie too wise to be pop persona was very well-played.

not me coming into this thread to read marinara needs dr. rape in 2023, the final nail in her career coffin

I agree with you, she doesnt seem inspired anymore… a shame, but Im happy for her doing well 

I always love Marina's Q&A live streams and always feel like she enjoys talking about the behind the scenes of a record and the entire process. And since she seems to be so angry about something I'd love her to do one of these Q&As about her artistic development since Froot. You're right, she could give us so much insight into the music industry but in a straightforward way. And then getting it out of her system and finally being able to write about something else. 
 
In general I feel like Marina has no idea what to write about anymore. When she was younger she was quite troubled and had a lot of stuff to tell but nowadays she's doing better (which is great!) but it's no lie that artists are at their best when there's something going on in their lives. If you're completely content with your life - what're you going to write about? Either about private stuff that's incredibly irrelevant to other people like barefeet chicken or about the problems of the whole wide world. 
 

I always love Marina's Q&A live streams and always feel like she enjoys talking about the behind the scenes of a record and the entire process. And since she seems to be so angry about something I'd love her to do one of these Q&As about her artistic development since Froot. You're right, she could give us so much insight into the music industry but in a straightforward way. And then getting it out of her system and finally being able to write about something else. 
 
In general I feel like Marina has no idea what to write about anymore. When she was younger she was quite troubled and had a lot of stuff to tell but nowadays she's doing better (which is great!) but it's no lie that artists are at their best when there's something going on in their lives. If you're completely content with your life - what're you going to write about? Either about private stuff that's incredibly irrelevant to other people like barefeet chicken or about the problems of the whole wide world. 
 

there's no saving her pen now at this rate the minute her book is out it's going to get criticized so hard 'cause i swear it's gabbie hana style poetry 
 
like i'm sorry i love her but this isn't it... how do you go from writing something like "I'm a Ruin" ON YOUR OWN to this pile of shit? it's just disappointing and those idiots that are gonna eat up everything are just fucking idiots. and this style of poetry doesn't only make wanna throw out my stan card, it's very fucking bad for the poetry community... 

I feel awful for criticizing her because I love this woman, and it takes guts to write poetry and to share it with the world, but holy shit, that thing is horrendous.  I felt so embarrassed reading it.
 
It really made me think of the poems I used to write when I was an edgy teen. 
No need to say I stopped poetry and shifted to only writing stories. 
 
English isn't my mother tongue but I can tell it's incredibly bad style-wise. 
It looks like she used every tools in the poetry box to make it a poem; on top of my head, the overused hunger metaphor she hammers throughout (the more you overdo it, the less it becomes powerful and/or significant), the artificial, useless repetitions (approve/try/grind/ and then the i am free), those stacked words (?? I only get it if it's for the rhythm, or perhaps to highlight them, but I'm not sure it's effective). 
 
It's like she felt the need to use every figure of speech she knows so it looks like poetry. Real beginner error: it ends up being superficial and try-hard. It's not poetry but fancy words thrown on the paper just for the sake of it. It lacks subtelty and authenticity, which poetry should have. 
 
And if you need to disguise your words to make sure people get what the fuck you're doing, you're doing really bad.
 
I didn't plan on ranting that much because of a harmless poem but here I am.  Good for her if she's proud of her work and good for the stans to have new content.
What makes me disappointed and embarrassed, though, is the fact that woman used to be such a GOOD songwriter. She used to express things so simply and beautifully. You're supposed to get better at your craft with time, not the opposite. Seriously, what happened? 

i hope to see an "Electra Heart Faked Her Death" album
Electra Heart 2.0 coming 2032

well that's not our business 

i just think it’s so weird how she tried to change her image after Electra Heart- the infinitely iconic look & album that catapulted her to being a star, and then again tried to change it to be more “mature”(?) by dropping “and the Diamonds” from her state name and trying to write “mature” music e.g political, feminist, etc but failed miserably for the most part because the vast amount of her output since Froot has been beyond mediocre imo
And now she’s doing a Lana Del Rey and trying to get into poetry ?¿ and it’s just not good 
 
i feel so bad dragging her bc I want to love her so much & I really do adore her first 3 albums but like what the fuck yall

Her poem doesn't look THAT bad if she would type it like this tho
Can't say I love it, but this way it's a) way easier to read and understand and b) it makes the poem seem better than it is

Writing about your glamorous Hollywood life ain't the thing anyone's gonna relate to, so Marina sis you better take it into consideration, unless you really don't care what you're doing.
 
That new poem is alright, but the structure seems messy and the visuals kinda childish.

You bought a star in the sky at night
And in your man-made dark
The light inside you died

[Pre-Chorus]
Oh, we don't own our heavens now
We only own our hell
And if you don't know that by now
Then you don't know me that well
 
[Verse 1]
Sunday, wake up, give me a cigarette
Last night's love affair is looking vulnerable in my bed
Silk sheet, blue dawn
Colgate, tongue warm

[Pre-Chorus]
Won't you quit your crying? I can't sleep
One minute I'm a little sweetheart
And next minute you are an absolute creep
 
TF happened 

Usually I hate it when artists say they're gonna release something and then do not but in this case she should do herself a favour and say the file was corrupted

she's just saying words at this point

hello yall, just got bored at work and decided to quickly edit something... here it is, enjoy 
 @templeoflana
 

 
 

Omg I haven't read this interview in years. Her mind back then was so powerful 

Lizzy made up this mixtape for an interview in 2010 
 
Q: Turning old-school for a moment, if you were to make a Mixtape for me, including one of your own songs, what would you put on there + title the compilation?
A: “It would be called 'Sex on Ice' and I'd probably put
1.Gangsters Paradise on there…
2.Flamingos 'I Only Have Eyes For You'
3.Britney Spears 'Hit Me Baby One More Time'
4.The Godfather Theme
5.Lee Hazlewood & Nancy Sinatra 'Some Velvet Morning'
6.Lana Del Rey 'Hey Lolita Hey'
7. Scarface Theme
8.Ennio Morricone 'Once Upon A Time In The West'
9. Mickey Avalon 'So Rich So Pretty'”