LDR Album Process Discussion

[Lindsay Lohan 10,471]

13 minutes ago, cranekiss said:

"tropico wasnt an album concept" ok but like several og files of songs leaked with TROPICO as the album within its metadata be for real

 

Literally...

 

That notebook is also the biggest proof to the existence of Tropico  

 

In that sense, then the Chemtrails over the Country Club track list and Rock Candy Sweet are also not early concepts because we don't have facts about it 

 

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The argument of it being tampered with does not make sense because these are quite literally the original files 

 

 

Also this interview of Lana talking about her next record being stripped back and having stacked acapella files with west coast influence (from Nov. 2012)... what more proof do you need

EVERYTHING adds up 

[ChaoticLipster 24,618]

I don’t think I care when songs were recorded, some of you’ll are like..

 

‘IIT WAS RECORDED ON NOVEMBER 2ND 2013 aT 10:36pm! ThOUSE SAYING IT WAS 11:00pm are Rabid Liars fight me! Bitch!!’
 

 

[evalionisameme 13,889]

7 minutes ago, Lindsay Lohan said:

 

Literally...

 

That notebook is also the biggest proof to the existence of Tropico  

 

In that sense, then the Chemtrails over the Country Club track list and Rock Candy Sweet are also not early concepts because we don't have facts about it 

 

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The argument of it being tampered with does not make sense because these are quite literally the original files 

 

 

Also this interview of Lana talking about her next record being stripped back and having stacked acapella files with west coast influence (from 2012)... what more proof do you need

EVERYTHING adds up 

And how do you know they’re the original files? You wouldn’t be able to prove this? We don’t even have the songs in wavs - the tropico tracklist means nothing- those could have easily been songs shortlisted for the film- im not saying  some of the songs couldn’t have been for a hypothetical “ tropico” album- but I highly doubt that was anything other than a tally of songs for early stages in this project and the film.

 

all in all it wasn’t like tropico was a big expansive era or anything fleshed out that we can prove so they’re all in truth UV scraps.

[GeminiLanaFan 49,047]

I kinda love all the mystique around her second/third albums… and each new « fact » seems to be pushing us even further from the truth  

Was Tropico ever really a thing? I don’t know. It’s how I chose to name the « album »/ playlist of unreleased songs I love the most we got over the years. One thing is for sure: between BTD’s release and UV’s, two whole years went by and a lot has happened between the two (pretty much as eventful as LFL’s era). The more time passes between albums, higher the chances are that the concept of the future LP will change direction and name. Plus there were all the old songs / demos she had under her belt that she could choose from. 
 

anyways, I don’t think we’ll ever know the truth/bottom line of this period. And unless she decides to release the B-sides to UV at some point, or unless they leak, the mystique of this era will go on.. and I guess it’s part of the fun of being a Lana Stan.

[cranekiss 9,728]

2 minutes ago, evalionisameme said:

 

 

all in all it wasn’t like tropico was a big expansive era or anything fleshed out that we can prove so they’re all in truth UV scraps.

i think... hear me out... i think that's bc.,.. it was ... a concept.... 

[evalionisameme 13,889]

1 minute ago, cranekiss said:

i think... hear me out... i think that's bc.,.. it was ... a concept.... 

a concept which we’ll never know was an actual thing for a track list to be provided for at this stage….

So again pointless to discuss this further 

[Lindsay Lohan 10,471]

3 minutes ago, evalionisameme said:

And how do you know they’re the original files? You wouldn’t be able to prove this? We don’t even have the songs in wavs - the tropico tracklist means nothing- those could have easily been songs shortlisted for the film- im not saying  some of the songs couldn’t have been for a hypothetical “ tropico” album- but I highly doubt that was anything other than a tally of songs for early stages in this project and the film.

 

all in it wasn’t like tropico was a big expansive era or anything fleshed out that we can prove so they’re all in truth UV scraps.

 

That's up to you if you choose to believe that or not but i've personally seen source files unaltered with the metadata of "TROPICO" in it... but thats just my word aganist yours

 

I really don't understand the random hesitation of believing it 

[Jack 2,919]

just replying bc it isn’t true lanaboards drama if i don’t put my 2 cents in. 

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39 minutes ago, shadesofearthquakes said:

Anyway leak Fine China (Rick’s Version)!

 

Another version of that song? 

 

Unless Rick is the one who usually does the 'rock' version of her songs...

[evalionisameme 13,889]

2 minutes ago, Lindsay Lohan said:

 

That's up to you if you choose to believe that or not but i've personally seen source files unaltered with the metadata of "TROPICO" in it... but thats just my word aganist yours

 

I really don't understand the random hesitation of believing it 

In that case it’s just odd that there wasn’t murmurings of this years ago when her laptop was stolen considering how Lana leakers are 

[ImenaOphelia 9,663]

someone has to ask Lana about Tropico and end this mess

[Platinum Greenwich 13,847]

look, it's a given that everything is conjecture, especially given the fact that lana herself isn't a reliable source of information for these things (as @sparklrtrailrheaven mentioned)

 

we can have a consensus on what is generally true and what isn't (like the list of prospective btd outtakes), but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter

 

like, lana put songs from 10 years ago on blue banisters - does that mean she concepted this album way back then?

 

the point behind having things like "melancholia" or "tropico" to bridge the gap between paradise and uv is mainly to have a way of categorizing the copious amounts of unreleased songs we have

 

it's also kind of a window into her creative process - but again, we're not literally inside lana's head, so whether we are factually correct or not in our assumptions, is moot

 

as far as tampering with leaked material is concerned, again, it doesn't rly matter if patrick warren created the stem edits, or if a fan did - in either case they're stem edits made after the fact

 

if patrick warren created them, then sure, there's more legitimacy there, but typically we aren't clamoring for stem edits to leak anyway, lmao

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Just now, evalionisameme said:

In that case it’s just odd that there wasn’t murmurings of this years ago when her laptop was stolen causing how Lana leakers are 

nobody had any idea tropico was meant to have more songs until people obtained ittj in like 2019... do not assume ever

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18 minutes ago, Lindsay Lohan said:

 

Literally...

 

That notebook is also the biggest proof to the existence of Tropico  

 

In that sense, then the Chemtrails over the Country Club track list and Rock Candy Sweet are also not early concepts because we don't have facts about it 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

The argument of it being tampered with does not make sense because these are quite literally the original files 

 

 

Also this interview of Lana talking about her next record being stripped back and having stacked acapella files with west coast influence (from Nov. 2012)... what more proof do you need

EVERYTHING adds up 

what part of this .. interview from after Tropico was announced to be a film...proves it was an album?

[Vertimus 9,558]

3 hours ago, nikkilane77 said:

I think, as Lana fans, we should've known by now that everything is subjective when it comes to her projects/unreleased... she changes her mind every 2 minutes so...

Who knows? Maybe Tropico really was an album and then one day she woke up and said no ma'am let's change it up... that's a really Her thing to do

Right. It's not as if she says, states, or speaks out loud for anyone to hear every decision she makes. We know she changes her mind all the time. Any creative person knows--especially writers of any kind--that it's a fluid process, and there are all kinds of sudden new ideas, inspiration, or whims, alterations, and reversals.

 

I'll say it again: if they had 'Madonna Studies' in some colleges and universities in the 80s, there should be 'LDR Studies' now, because an entire lengthy book could be written about what is known factually about her, what is speculation, and what is completely unknown about her and her recordings--the unknown has to be acknowledged as such, especially when, now, we're suddenly finding out information and getting complete files of songs about which we formerly knew nothing. 

[evalionisameme 13,889]

Actually I cannot even find the information about her original laptop being stolen in late 2012/13- TF- I could swear there was an article about it prior 

[glitch diva 2,912]

I mean, whatever, just leak Jamie xx version of Old Money. 

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18 minutes ago, ImenaOphelia said:

someone has to ask Lana about Tropico and end this mess

“What is Tropico? How do you know about that concept? ”

[shadesofloveduthenandnow 20,610]

20 minutes ago, Deadly Cruel Girl said:

 

Another version of that song? 

 

Unless Rick is the one who usually does the 'rock' version of her songs...

It’s the OG version and allegedly the best version saur yes pls leak it

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20 minutes ago, ImenaOphelia said:

someone has to ask Lana about Tropico and end this mess

she will said tropico is a short film