paradisetropico 7,920 Posted September 4, 2019 it is interesting she mentioned/answered the question about California.. and said he lives in London, do we know if Barrie is in London??? also does she date Chase still? id be interested to know if he's heard the track and how he took it ... hearing her sing that. I mean it may be nothing but it is interesting to meeeeee 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edelgard 1,819 Posted September 4, 2019 IT seems Barrie is in Glasgow So who tf is in London 1 Quote All the roses are red, and Jupiter too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amostori 780 Posted September 4, 2019 IT seems Barrie is in Glasgow So who tf is in London in my opinion, i think if she would have said "he's still in glasgow" or whatever would have been too specific and people would know who it was straight away 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rorman Nockwell 56,760 Posted September 4, 2019 in my opinion, i think if she would have said "he's still in glasgow" or whatever would have been too specific and people would know who it was straight away Exactly. If she said "Glasgow" then she might as well say, "It's about Barrie, fuckers". She's obviously not going to do that. He lived in London and goes there regularly, even if he isn't there at the moment. As usual, she bent the truth. I don't blame her in this case, because it makes sense that she's not going to admit it. We stans are the only people who know precisely who she means. Most people listening to it wouldn't know, or care. 12 Quote ur legit gonna look the same stop buying oil of Olay face cream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultrababy 3,445 Posted September 4, 2019 I hear “you said to our friend that you wish you were doing better” by the way 0 Quote I pretend I’m not hurt and go about the world like I’m having fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creyk 11,699 Posted September 4, 2019 Exactly. If she said "Glasgow" then she might as well say, "It's about Barrie, fuckers". She's obviously not going to do that. He lived in London and goes there regularly, even if he isn't there at the moment. As usual, she bent the truth. I don't blame her in this case, because it makes sense that she's not going to admit it. We stans are the only people who know precisely who she means. Most people listening to it wouldn't know, or care. I agree. Also, it was an intrusive question. I wouldn't even expect her to answer something like that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PARADIXO 32,943 Posted September 4, 2019 I agree. Also, it was an intrusive question. I wouldn't even expect her to answer something like that. she herself decided to read it out loud out of all questions though 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creyk 11,699 Posted September 4, 2019 she herself decided to read it out loud out of all questions though I think she started reading it before she realized what the whole sentence was 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelHeadedHipster 2,838 Posted September 5, 2019 CALIFORNIA : A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW This track on the surface level seems like a plea by Lana to reconnect with her ex lover who is in a bad place emotionally and Lana feels that if they reunite they would most definitely heal each other. But if you look at this song from a higher perspective, it really is about Lana Del Rey wanting to reconnect with the pre-fame Lizzy Grant. The one who hadn't witnessed the relentless media attacks and taunts that were unnecessarily brutal to a newcomer who was light years ahead of the music industry. Critics back then questioned every aspect of her personality, calling her a heavily manufactured airhead pop star who was backed by her billionaire father. But 8 years later the tides have changed and now the same critics who taunted her are now sucking up to her. Such hypocrites. It infuriates me the way Lana was dismissed in the beginning. Anyone else in her place probably would have quit the industry, but she being a strong soul not only survived but thrived. She literally overturned the music industry with her revolutionary creativity and is influencing nearly all the new artists as well as old. She has become a GENRE herself. Such is her impact. So many popstars came and burst like fireworks and fizzled out with their forgettable music. But Lana's music keeps on getting better with age just like wine. No wonder BTD is only one of the three albums that stayed on the billboard charts for more than 300 weeks. So getting back to the song, Lana starts by relaxing and trying to get into a peaceful state of mind and tries to channel her old self (Lizzy) who was flowing with insane amounts of creative storytelling. The following lines : //You don't ever have to go faster than your fastest pace Or faster than my fastest cars// Indicate a sort of Writers Block and Lana is trying to let the muse slip slowly back into her and inspire her lyrically. The [Pre-Chorus] is again Lana talking to Lizzy in the third person. Perhaps Lizzy Grant (The core aspect of Lana's personality) was a bit suicidal after the insane media backlash. Lana wanted to reach out and help Lizzy get out of the darkness of the industry that had started to consume her. So Lana experienced soul loss through the trial by fire in the industry and now desperately wants to regain that part of her soul which the industry so mercilessly consumed. In order to reunite with Lizzy, Lana is recreating all her favourite old memories such as collecting all her favourite magazines like "Vogues" and "Rolling Stones" and going to all the old places she loved visiting. Lizzy is in hiding and Lana is doing literally everything in her power to lure her out of hiding by even tempting Lizzy with "Top Shelf Liquor" just like in the "Carmen" song. The line "You're scared to win, scared to lose" indicates that Lana is afraid of becoming too mainstream by following the easy road of forgettable pop hooks but also afraid that she will lose her core fanbase if she fails to deliver soul stirring stories through her music. This is the reason why Lana wants to reconnect with Lizzy to be in a perfectly balanced state of creativity where her songs are catchy but also laced with multi layered symbolism that can only be decoded through several listens. The Internal War that Lana is facing could be easily resolved if Lizzy reunites spiritually with Lana so they could take their Music to even greater heights as Lana has started to feel "Burned Out" as she sings in "The Greatest". In her unreleased track "Velvet Crowbar" Lizzy predicted her own demise in the future when she sings " Burned Yourself Out, Nothing Left" and "You're Not That Bright For A Star". This song was a warning to Lana Del Rey. Now she has come full circle and fulfilled her own prophecy. Lana sings to Lizzy "You're Brighter Than The Brightest Star" in "California". Hope this process of going down Memory Lane helps Lana to once again merge with Lizzy and together they continue to make revolutionary trailblazing music. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Whore 51,340 Posted September 5, 2019 CALIFORNIA : A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW This track on the surface level seems like a plea by Lana to reconnect with her ex lover who is in a bad place emotionally and Lana feels that if they reunite they would most definitely heal each other. But if you look at this song from a higher perspective, it really is about Lana Del Rey wanting to reconnect with the pre-fame Lizzy Grant. The one who hadn't witnessed the relentless media attacks and taunts that were unnecessarily brutal to a newcomer who was light years ahead of the music industry. Critics back then questioned every aspect of her personality, calling her a heavily manufactured airhead pop star who was backed by her billionaire father. But 8 years later the tides have changed and now the same critics who taunted her are now sucking up to her. Such hypocrites. It infuriates me the way Lana was dismissed in the beginning. Anyone else in her place probably would have quit the industry, but she being a strong soul not only survived but thrived. She literally overturned the music industry with her revolutionary creativity and is influencing nearly all the new artists as well as old. She has become a GENRE herself. Such is her impact. So many popstars came and burst like fireworks and fizzled out with their forgettable music. But Lana's music keeps on getting better with age just like wine. No wonder BTD is only one of the three albums that stayed on the billboard charts for more than 300 weeks. So getting back to the song, Lana starts by relaxing and trying to get into a peaceful state of mind and tries to channel her old self (Lizzy) who was flowing with insane amounts of creative storytelling. The following lines : //You don't ever have to go faster than your fastest pace Or faster than my fastest cars// Indicate a sort of Writers Block and Lana is trying to let the muse slip slowly back into her and inspire her lyrically. The [Pre-Chorus] is again Lana talking to Lizzy in the third person. Perhaps Lizzy Grant (The core aspect of Lana's personality) was a bit suicidal after the insane media backlash. Lana wanted to reach out and help Lizzy get out of the darkness of the industry that had started to consume her. So Lana experienced soul loss through the trial by fire in the industry and now desperately wants to regain that part of her soul which the industry so mercilessly consumed. In order to reunite with Lizzy, Lana is recreating all her favourite old memories such as collecting all her favourite magazines like "Vogues" and "Rolling Stones" and going to all the old places she loved visiting. Lizzy is in hiding and Lana is doing literally everything in her power to lure her out of hiding by even tempting Lizzy with "Top Shelf Liquor" just like in the "Carmen" song. The line "You're scared to win, scared to lose" indicates that Lana is afraid of becoming too mainstream by following the easy road of forgettable pop hooks but also afraid that she will lose her core fanbase if she fails to deliver soul stirring stories through her music. This is the reason why Lana wants to reconnect with Lizzy to be in a perfectly balanced state of creativity where her songs are catchy but also laced with multi layered symbolism that can only be decoded through several listens. The Internal War that Lana is facing could be easily resolved if Lizzy reunites spiritually with Lana so they could take their Music to even greater heights as Lana has started to feel "Burned Out" as she sings in "The Greatest". In her unreleased track "Velvet Crowbar" Lizzy predicted her own demise in the future when she sings " Burned Yourself Out, Nothing Left" and "You're Not That Bright For A Star". This song was a warning to Lana Del Rey. Now she has come full circle and fulfilled her own prophecy. Lana sings to Lizzy "You're Brighter Than The Brightest Star" in "California". Hope this process of going down Memory Lane helps Lana to once again merge with Lizzy and together they continue to make revolutionary trailblazing music. Holy shit this actually sounds really cool although she said it was written about someone who’s still in London so... who knows? But I like this theory!!! 3 Quote if i fuck this model and she just bleached her asshole and i get bleach on my t-shirt, imma feel like an asshole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicken Parmesan 316 Posted September 6, 2019 I'll pick up all of your PHONES and all of your ROLLING STONES. Is the correct lyric - Phones, Folks or Vogues? I think "vogues" makes the most sense with rolling stones, another magazine 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson and Clover 22,505 Posted November 28, 2019 I was just listening to California and it’s tragic how desperate she sounds. It almost reminds me of Blue Jeans in a way. She’s saying that she’ll grab the liquor from the top shelf for this man if he comes back, even though Bartender (just two songs away) essentially talks about her sobriety. She’ll go back to her old BTD/UV vices if this guy comes back, it’s pretty sad ngl 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urgirl 5,748 Posted December 12, 2019 This is the new honeymoon hotline song 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crack Prince 507 Posted August 16, 2020 i randomly came across this thread, reading all the discussion about folks vs vogues got me giggling lmao this song is literally a response to a song by joni mitchell (who lana is obsessed with for some reason) also called california, and yes it is vogues. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
99centlips 8,520 Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 8:38 PM, Crack Prince said: i randomly came across this thread, reading all the discussion about folks vs vogues got me giggling lmao this song is literally a response to a song by joni mitchell (who lana is obsessed with for some reason) also called california, and yes it is vogues. wow definitely didn't know this. so many of her lines I LOVE, I later find out she borrowed. tastefully, always, but still borrowed... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bonita 12,535 Posted July 21, 2021 I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT BUT I READ IT IN YOUR LETTER YOU SAID TO A FRIEND THAT YOU WISH YOU WERE DOING BETTER I WANTED TO REACH OUT BUT I NEVER SAID A THING *piano notes* I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT BUT I READ IT IN YOUR LETTER YOU SAID TO A FRIEND THAT YOU WISH YOU WERE DOING BETTER I WANTED TO CALL YOU BUT I DIDN'T SAY A THING 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadesofloveduthenandnow 20,610 Posted July 22, 2021 gazing at horizons but never quite reaching them 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whitelungswhitepalms 10,090 Posted January 1, 2022 Reading the earlier comments jeeeeez people were hateful and it turned out to be her most acclaimed I C O N 3 Quote IM STRONGER THANALL MY MEN... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadesofloveduthenandnow 20,610 Posted March 13, 2022 Gazing at horizons but never quite reaching them! And still I tell you every time! OOOOHHHHHHHHHHH 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHydrangea 4,216 Posted March 13, 2022 15 hours ago, shadesofyosemite said: Gazing at horizons but never quite reaching them! And still I tell you every time! OOOOHHHHHHHHHHH I never heard the demo snippet omg 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites