Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll

[bluefiona 8,050]

No. People have been using vapes for over a decade and it hasn't been a problem. Are you seriously going to sit here and type all that without acknowledging the fact that smoking causes literal cancer. Like in basically every part of your body. The recent vape deaths were because of black market dealers using vitamin E as a thickening agent in their liquid.

 

Also, the cigarette lobby has had a very extensive (and obvious) anti-vaping campaign for a while now because if people switch over to the SAFER and more pleasant alternative of vaping for their nicotine addiction, the cigarette industry will become irrelevant, CEOs will lose millions, and the government will lose millions in taxes that they made off of cigarettes AND millions in bribes they take from big tobacco.

 

Doctors lie. Thousands claimed that opiates weren't addictive and look where we are now, millions of people addicted and dying as a result of opioid addictions caused by prescription drugs which were deemed "safe and non addictive" by doctors and professionals.

 

Enough of the misinformation. It really isn't that hard to do a little digging and figure out where these message are coming from and who they benefit. Just a tip: they NEVER benefit the consumer. Period.

 

 

Ignorance is bliss. Don't feel bad about yourself because you're so uninformed. I have receipts.

 

I'll leave you with these:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7678231/Vaper-17-patient-receive-double-lung-transplant-using-e-cigarettes.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7521941/E-cigarettes-supposed-safer-smoking-blamed-deaths.html

 

https://www.wbir.com/article/news/local/its-not-safe-it-kills-local-teacher-loses-nephew-to-vaping-urges-parents-to-talk-to-children-about-dangers/51-c812befa-190d-4ab7-885b-1db9c156abdb

 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/11/27/vaping-death-michigan-man-lung-injury/4318378002/

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7712479/Vaping-killed-47-people-number-lung-illnesses-rises-nearly-2-300-victims.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7732377/Massachusetts-announces-ban-flavored-tobacco-vaping-products-end-early.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7636235/Vaping-killed-37-Americans-number-lung-illnesses-linked-e-cigs-rises-nearly-1-900.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7707877/Second-New-Yorker-dies-Governor-Andrew-Cuomo-urges-Trump-BAN-e-cigarettes.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7436241/Vaping-related-illness-claims-life-Indiana-officials-report.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7510461/THIRTEEN-Americans-died-vaping-linked-illness-805-severe-lung-damage.html

 

There's thousands more articles about vaping being dangerous even more so then cigarettes. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=vaping+kills+teen+dailymail&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1PRFE_enUS765US765&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ACYBGNQT1eAUqGMXnp8X139rmilPWCrbvg:1575099001771&ei=eRriXeXcLuq-ggeuy59w&start=10&sa=N&ved=0ahUKEwil_fGDtZHmAhVqn-AKHa7lBw4Q8tMDCGg&biw=1538&bih=797&dpr=1

 

I'm not debating this, so this is the last time I'm replying on this. it's up to you to look at the links and read on. That's all I'm saying. 

[creditcardromancer 751]

Ignorance is bliss. Don't feel bad about yourself because you're so uninformed. I have receipts.

 

I'll leave you with these:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7678231/Vaper-17-patient-receive-double-lung-transplant-using-e-cigarettes.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7521941/E-cigarettes-supposed-safer-smoking-blamed-deaths.html

 

https://www.wbir.com/article/news/local/its-not-safe-it-kills-local-teacher-loses-nephew-to-vaping-urges-parents-to-talk-to-children-about-dangers/51-c812befa-190d-4ab7-885b-1db9c156abdb

 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/11/27/vaping-death-michigan-man-lung-injury/4318378002/

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7712479/Vaping-killed-47-people-number-lung-illnesses-rises-nearly-2-300-victims.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7732377/Massachusetts-announces-ban-flavored-tobacco-vaping-products-end-early.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7636235/Vaping-killed-37-Americans-number-lung-illnesses-linked-e-cigs-rises-nearly-1-900.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7707877/Second-New-Yorker-dies-Governor-Andrew-Cuomo-urges-Trump-BAN-e-cigarettes.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7436241/Vaping-related-illness-claims-life-Indiana-officials-report.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7510461/THIRTEEN-Americans-died-vaping-linked-illness-805-severe-lung-damage.html

 

There's thousands more articles about vaping being dangerous even more so then cigarettes. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=vaping+kills+teen+dailymail&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1PRFE_enUS765US765&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ACYBGNQT1eAUqGMXnp8X139rmilPWCrbvg:1575099001771&ei=eRriXeXcLuq-ggeuy59w&start=10&sa=N&ved=0ahUKEwil_fGDtZHmAhVqn-AKHa7lBw4Q8tMDCGg&biw=1538&bih=797&dpr=1

 

I'm not debating this, so this is the last time I'm replying on this. it's up to you to look at the links and read on. That's all I'm saying. 

your "receipts" are literally from the daily fail sis... smoking causes CANCER LMAOOO bye

 

anyway, on topic: i feel like lana is doing it to quit, but also doing it to fit in with the cool crowd. like it or not, vaping is cool right now.

[Make me your Dream Life 87,789]

Wanna revitalize this. So, basically after listening to the record, which tracks changed you, or how were you changed like after listening to it? Granted for me, I've an affinity and understanding for some tracks. Was, and still reluctant about it, but, Cinnamon (Girl) pisses me off like Carmen did, but like, I get it and it's fucking sad imo wtf. It gets me mad like, does that make sense??

Not from like a he said she said perspective, but situationally? but like in a someone-fucked-up kinda sense

[ChaoticLipster 24,618]

Ignorance is bliss. Don't feel bad about yourself because you're so uninformed. I have receipts.

 

I'll leave you with these:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7678231/Vaper-17-patient-receive-double-lung-transplant-using-e-cigarettes.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7521941/E-cigarettes-supposed-safer-smoking-blamed-deaths.html

 

https://www.wbir.com/article/news/local/its-not-safe-it-kills-local-teacher-loses-nephew-to-vaping-urges-parents-to-talk-to-children-about-dangers/51-c812befa-190d-4ab7-885b-1db9c156abdb

 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/11/27/vaping-death-michigan-man-lung-injury/4318378002/

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7712479/Vaping-killed-47-people-number-lung-illnesses-rises-nearly-2-300-victims.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7732377/Massachusetts-announces-ban-flavored-tobacco-vaping-products-end-early.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7636235/Vaping-killed-37-Americans-number-lung-illnesses-linked-e-cigs-rises-nearly-1-900.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7707877/Second-New-Yorker-dies-Governor-Andrew-Cuomo-urges-Trump-BAN-e-cigarettes.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7436241/Vaping-related-illness-claims-life-Indiana-officials-report.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7510461/THIRTEEN-Americans-died-vaping-linked-illness-805-severe-lung-damage.html

 

There's thousands more articles about vaping being dangerous even more so then cigarettes. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=vaping+kills+teen+dailymail&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1PRFE_enUS765US765&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ACYBGNQT1eAUqGMXnp8X139rmilPWCrbvg:1575099001771&ei=eRriXeXcLuq-ggeuy59w&start=10&sa=N&ved=0ahUKEwil_fGDtZHmAhVqn-AKHa7lBw4Q8tMDCGg&biw=1538&bih=797&dpr=1

 

I'm not debating this, so this is the last time I'm replying on this. it's up to you to look at the links and read on. That's all I'm saying. 

If you submitted references from the daily mail in any debate you’d be laughed at sis. It’s not a legitimate source of evidence they make up stories to get attention. Cite something from a legitimate medical study or from a university. I’m shocked how people don’t know how to validate amd fact-check infomation these days.

[mkultraviolence 5,832]

Exactly. Don't even bother rationalizing with these mentally unstable losers, who all live in their parents basements blasting Sad Girl as they wait for their Hot Pockets to come out of the microwave. First they loved it, then they switch like *******. They're just going to have to suffer with the reality that NFR! is her most critically acclaimed for a reason, and Lana won't be shooting up methamphetamines and getting with Barrie any time soon.

 

omg i-

[Psychedelic Pussy 30,108]

If we’re just gonna argue about Lana vaping (which imo is fine by me as long as she eventually gets off nicotine all together) I’m legit gonna disappear til next era this is so exhausting

[LanaCharts 1,980]

Pure sales ofc?

It’s pure sales + streams

[Marius 12,802]

It’s pure sales + streams

 

Oh. I saw on mediatraffic that NFR’s sold 623k.

[Creyk 11,699]

I wish she still made homemade videos Even if only just for the title track since it's nominated for the grammy.

[Nobody 21,511]

Honeymoon being her only album not on any decade-end lists yet

 

[SparkleJumpropeNoose 8,750]

Honeymoon being her only album not on any decade-end lists yet

 

something is very wrong

[LanaCharts 1,980]

Oh. I saw on mediatraffic that NFR’s sold 623k.

Oh the number I posted is just US sales, it has sold 623k WW

[Make me your Dream Life 87,789]

We need a vintage-filtered Romeo n Juliet-esque mv for Love song 

[Ivory Cricket 353]

Vaping is more dangerous then smoking. Read the articles from doctors. 

The articals showing that vaping is killing/making people sick are almost entirely from thc,illicitly sold chinese based vape juice that use cheap vitamin e as a stabilizer for the oil for thc or cbd.

The center of disease control literally has the statistics online for anyone to view and the major consensus as per them is "THC is present in most of the samples tested by FDA to date, and most patients report a history of using THC-containing e-cigarette, or vaping, products."

 

[creditcardromancer 751]

Wanna revitalize this. So, basically after listening to the record, which tracks changed you, or how were you changed like after listening to it? Granted for me, I've an affinity and understanding for some tracks. Was, and still reluctant about it, but, Cinnamon (Girl) pisses me off like Carmen did, but like, I get it and it's fucking sad imo wtf. It gets me mad like, does that make sense??

 

Not from like a he said she said perspective, but situationally? but like in a someone-fucked-up kinda sense

i didn't really like FIILY until i heard the vinyl version. it's just infinitely better imo and brought the album together for me.

 

also, i felt like HIAB was somewhat corny but it fits so well in the album.  i feel bad for not loving it instantly lol

[Make me your Dream Life 87,789]

i didn't really like FIILY until i heard the vinyl version. it's just infinitely better imo and brought the album together for me.

 

also, i felt like HIAB was somewhat corny but it fits so well in the album.  i feel bad for not loving it instantly lol

I love how more stripped and relaxed the vinyl version is. Wish we had it on streaming platforms. I get why ya'd say that, it kinda directs the records atmosphere towards an island beach house balcony vibes imo

 

I- Lol mm me too admittedly, but at the time, I loved it bc I thought, still think the melody's so beautiful. Tourlyfe makes me chuckle but I mean, I look at it as some kind of comm endearment. But. Being objective about it, idk my gut's saying there's an inherent value to the track. Maybe its the melody in the verses, in contrast to the seemingly lack of composure in "dont b a jerk .. I just wanna dance with you" , and the relcutant swooping of longing to it. Then there's the natural sway of the track, and how the concepts of happiness swim in and out of it sonically, just like it does narritively thru the lyrics. I think the "baby's" and "crazy's" round it out, while the "hurt" parts bring it back to earth.

The solemness that she returns to after all the emotional gyrating, when she sings she just wants to dance? Cold but tender at the same time it's like being caressed a soft breeze wtf I'm ranting does this make any sense hahahahahaha

 

But yes. There's value there. Still reveling at the diff parts of the record than looking at it focusedly as a whole. But all I know is. She came out stronger through this record, and that there's this emotional, and overall integrity to it thats real refreshing

[KingJay 3,018]

Whewww, a couple months later and this album is still amazing. Imagine being mad at Lana for releasing a masterpiece.... can’t relate.

California evokes the feeling of missing someone and yearnig so much....There is something about California that make me listen to on it daily...I stan

Yessss, I love the song, it’s such a vibe. She really did what she had to do with this song.

[daphnedinkley 13,478]

whenever i listen to Hope i get mad that i could never write something so beautiful 

[Creyk 11,699]

whenever i listen to Hope i get mad that i could never write something so beautiful 

The "Shaking my ass is the only thing that's got this black narcissist off my back" part is so beautiful

[GeminiLanaFan 49,031]

The "Shaking my ass is the only thing that's got this black narcissist off my back" part is so beautiful

 

 

whenever i listen to Hope i get mad that i could never write something so beautiful 

 

Finally two posts in a row on this thread that don't trash Hope!!!!! 

it's a beautiful and aching song at the same time, so perfect for winter.