LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships

[Blossom 8,977]

23 minutes ago, Elle said:

I believe it’s Chase Stogel -

 

I wonder if he works at Delilah? She mentioned says "Party of a thousands of people I don't know at Delilah where my ex-husband works" in LA who am I to love you and she wrote that at the time of their breakup, I think... anyway, just a thought bc idk which other ex could possibly work at a club/restaurant lol 

[Blossom 8,977]

hm I googled it and someone said: in "Happiness Is A Butterfly, “Laurel down to sunset in the truck, I’ll pick you up...”Laurel is a cross street VERY close to Delilah, and while it’s on SMB, not Sunset, my money is still on this part of the poem being about the same guy she’s singing about in HIAB.

[Umaniac 1,917]

33 minutes ago, Elle said:

I believe it’s Chase Stogel -

 

Thanks! Chase makes sense! Sorry i couldn’t keep up busy with exams

[Elle 123,310]

10 minutes ago, Blossom said:

I wonder if he works at Delilah? She mentioned says "Party of a thousands of people I don't know at Delilah where my ex-husband works" in LA who am I to love you and she wrote that at the time of their breakup, I think... anyway, just a thought bc idk which other ex could possibly work at a club/restaurant lol 

Maybe! Perhaps he was the ~bartender~ there. The poem seemed the be written during the ending months of their relationship. In May 2019 they were pictured together, and then the next month she celebrated her friend’s birthday party at Delilah. Though, her and Chase broke up for good sometime during July - September 2019. Not saying it’s necessarily correlated, but definitely interesting to note x
 

[Brooklynbaby 2,724]

Okay so I did a little research (stalking) about Aaron and I thought I’d look on lanas personal Facebook (is it confirmed it’s hers idk) and she is friends with two Greenes a Chris and Ivan greene. Do we think maybe they are something to do with him? Idk I’m just trying to peace together who Aaron is and if he is actually K 

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42 minutes ago, Brooklynbaby said:

Okay so I did a little research (stalking) about Aaron and I thought I’d look on lanas personal Facebook (is it confirmed it’s hers idk) and she is friends with two Greenes a Chris and Ivan green. Do we think maybe they are something to do with him? Idk I’m just trying to peace together who Aaron is and if he is actually K 

I don’t think Aaron is K but it’s still interesting to uncover all of this information ♡ 

[wlidatheart 31]

On 3/9/2023 at 2:18 PM, Brooklynbaby said:

Okay so I did a little research (stalking) about Aaron and I thought I’d look on lanas personal Facebook (is it confirmed it’s hers idk) and she is friends with two Greenes a Chris and Ivan greene. Do we think maybe they are something to do with him? Idk I’m just trying to peace together who Aaron is and if he is actually K 

I did some snooping too! Chris is Aaron's brother - I found their mom on Facebook and she has a photo of Aaron from a golf tournament they do every year in his name. <3

[BeautifulAnywhere 5,417]

Tbh after reading up & hearing fingertips I do have to agree with the sentiment that Aaron is K especially if we consider songs from that era like Junky Pride..pure theory but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had rejected her at first then gave in? Or her songs being her fantasy of what could’ve been if he had said yes & hadn’t been involved in the drive by 

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On 3/4/2023 at 10:47 AM, Kiki de Montparnasse said:

 

girl STOP-  i also have a theory that k was mentioned in fingertips 

 

ok so i'm not the most articulated person in english but i need to let these thoughts out:

 

for k, pt. 1/drive-by

 

It was a drive-by Sunday night

Most of us were in bed all right

I turned down the light

Then I heard the sirens

Interrupt the silence

Is this what you wished

To commit a crime?

 

K's a friend of mine

I think about him as he does time

Miss his white wine

Funny I don't feel free

Even though it's not me

Is this what you wished

To leave me behind?

 

for k, pt. 2

 

I like the way you wear your sweater off your shoulder

The way your hair come down, it make you look older

How you get that so handsome, my boy?

Oh, mmm

 

my theory is that k was lana's childhood friend, most likely her neighbour, not much older. she probably grew up with him, at a certain age started developing a crush on him. he was probably her first "love".

 

him being of course problematic, "chasing for that paper", abusing drugs, committing crimes and in general being a bad influence on her during their teenage years (pre-boarding school).

 

pt. 1 to me reads as if the police arrived to arrest him at his place, lana being his neighbour could hear the sirens from her room. she most likely never got the chance to see him again after they took him.

 

she probably had many questions, "what did he do?", "why did he do it?". he was a "nice guy", he was her friend, her first love, why did he leave her?

 

she keeps asking him "is this what you wished...?", questions she never got to make him directly and never got the answers to. imagine then hearing through the news that your childhood friend and first love was found guilty for double homicide and later sent on to death row.

 

are you still with me? i think these lines in fingertips might be about k

 

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When I was 15, naked 
Next door neighbors did a drive-by
Pulled me up by my waist
Long hair, to the beach side 
I wanted to go out like you… 

 

she did say something about explaining everything from the beginning. if k is real then to me it makes sense that she's mentioning him in fingertips too.

 

also, not defending lana's mom, but if one of my daughter's only friends (we know lana used to struggle socially back then) and probably first boyfriend turns out to be a criminal and a bad influence on my daughter, with her developing problems with alcohol and also undiagnosed mental health issues, i mean... not hard to see why she would want to send lizzy away to boarding school.

 

i know those lines are open to many interpretations but anyways thanks for reading my fanfiction  

these theories are so in depth and informative, thank you. i just love how complex this all is. when i searched up his name next to lana's, a buzzfeed review of did you know.... album came up. in the article they have a link to aaron greenes obituary, and you know big journalism or news websites usually have pretty good fact checkers. this is the article https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/izzyampil/lana-del-rey-album-review-did-you-know-that-theres-a-tunnel and this is the obituary they linked under the words "real tragedy" https://www.pressrepublican.com/news/local_news/aaron-m-greene/article_738f1ea0-12f6-5b24-9ee9-58e42be63b72.html in this it says he passed at age 23 in a car accident. 

 

edit: it states he passed in 2007, i believe lana would have been 22, so they were pretty close in age but im guessing lana knew him before she left for boarding school.. just guessing 

<3

[HeyBlueBaby 3,378]

On 3/4/2023 at 11:47 AM, Kiki de Montparnasse said:

 

girl STOP-  i also have a theory that k was mentioned in fingertips 

 

ok so i'm not the most articulated person in english but i need to let these thoughts out:

 

for k, pt. 1/drive-by

 

It was a drive-by Sunday night

Most of us were in bed all right

I turned down the light

Then I heard the sirens

Interrupt the silence

Is this what you wished

To commit a crime?

 

K's a friend of mine

I think about him as he does time

Miss his white wine

Funny I don't feel free

Even though it's not me

Is this what you wished

To leave me behind?

 

for k, pt. 2

 

I like the way you wear your sweater off your shoulder

The way your hair come down, it make you look older

How you get that so handsome, my boy?

Oh, mmm

 

my theory is that k was lana's childhood friend, most likely her neighbour, not much older. she probably grew up with him, at a certain age started developing a crush on him. he was probably her first "love".

 

him being of course problematic, "chasing for that paper", abusing drugs, committing crimes and in general being a bad influence on her during their teenage years (pre-boarding school).

 

pt. 1 to me reads as if the police arrived to arrest him at his place, lana being his neighbour could hear the sirens from her room. she most likely never got the chance to see him again after they took him.

 

she probably had many questions, "what did he do?", "why did he do it?". he was a "nice guy", he was her friend, her first love, why did he leave her?

 

she keeps asking him "is this what you wished...?", questions she never got to make him directly and never got the answers to. imagine then hearing through the news that your childhood friend and first love was found guilty for double homicide and later sent on to death row.

 

are you still with me? i think these lines in fingertips might be about k

 

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When I was 15, naked 
Next door neighbors did a drive-by
Pulled me up by my waist
Long hair, to the beach side 
I wanted to go out like you… 

 

she did say something about explaining everything from the beginning. if k is real then to me it makes sense that she's mentioning him in fingertips too.

 

also, not defending lana's mom, but if one of my daughter's only friends (we know lana used to struggle socially back then) and probably first boyfriend turns out to be a criminal and a bad influence on my daughter, with her developing problems with alcohol and also undiagnosed mental health issues, i mean... not hard to see why she would want to send lizzy away to boarding school.

 

i know those lines are open to many interpretations but anyways thanks for reading my fanfiction  

"Drive by" in that Fingertips verse does stick out. It's interesting

[#FreeCandyNecklace 562]

Who do we think "Let the Light In" is about?

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4 minutes ago, #FreeCandyNecklace said:

Who do we think "Let the Light In" is about?

Mike Hermosa

[AveryFortini 4]

Hey guys! I was taking a look back on a post from 2012 talking about which songs are inspired by who, but I feel like there needs to be a continuation of this since she’s dropped many albums since then! Feel free to reply with a song and evidence proving who it’s about  

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On 3/26/2023 at 6:52 PM, derrymore said:

these theories are so in depth and informative, thank you. i just love how complex this all is. when i searched up his name next to lana's, a buzzfeed review of did you know.... album came up. in the article they have a link to aaron greenes obituary, and you know big journalism or news websites usually have pretty good fact checkers. this is the article https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/izzyampil/lana-del-rey-album-review-did-you-know-that-theres-a-tunnel and this is the obituary they linked under the words "real tragedy" https://www.pressrepublican.com/news/local_news/aaron-m-greene/article_738f1ea0-12f6-5b24-9ee9-58e42be63b72.html in this it says he passed at age 23 in a car accident. 

 

edit: it states he passed in 2007, i believe lana would have been 22, so they were pretty close in age but im guessing lana knew him before she left for boarding school.. just guessing 

<3

If he did pass away in car accident it also gives a whole new context to the born to die video…

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On 3/31/2023 at 4:17 PM, AveryFortini said:

Hey guys! I was taking a look back on a post from 2012 talking about which songs are inspired by who, but I feel like there needs to be a continuation of this since she’s dropped many albums since then! Feel free to reply with a song and evidence proving who it’s about  

LMFAO I just realized that there was more to the thread lol, I am still new at this!

[violentvioletsky 1,431]

Could Lake Placid be about Aaron Greene?

[Lindsay Lohan 11,178]

Theory for who Jim and Bill are

 

I do think Lana uses these names for multiple people but I believe the OG versions of Jim and Bill are Mikey Martin (Jim) and Rob Dubuss (Bill)

 

Mikey Martin

 

In a 2006 post by someone named Dalene, she claims that Mikey Martin is an extremely abusive person who has relations with Lizzy Grant... obviously it lines up with abuse Lana said she has faced by someone named Jim (Ultraviolence, Beauty Player, Hundred Dollar Bill, Smarty, etc.)

 

TW: heavy claims 

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(NEWS UPDATE: October 20, 2006 - this girl LIZZY GRANT who is associated with the drummer of SHINY TOY GUNS (she was his on again, off again SEX PARTNER over the past 9 months) took down that message that she had previously posted in her blog section on myspace.com on October 20, 2006… but I will still leave the reference to this matter herein for the World to VIEW, and let’s wait to see what these men release with regards to this aspiring folk singer LIZZY GRANT who was sexually exploited by these men in January/February of 2006) TO THE BEAT recording studio is the studio that was down the hall from the hip hop recording studios that I was using at the Film Center Building SEVENTH FLOOR, in New York City (9th Avenue, between 44th & 45th Streets back in December/January of 2005/2006) I had reported over 8 months ago about what was going on over at the SEVENTH floor of the Film Center Building with the sexual exploitation and sexual abuse, and mental and emotional abuse of under age kids over there by the MUSIC INDUSTRY PREDATORS that occupy the recording studios on the SEVENTH floor of that building. There are allot of under age kids that take voice lessons on that floor daily that are preyed upon by these music producers/recording studios.

There also was a SODOMY RAPE of a minor that took place on the seventh floor of that building back in January, 2006 when I was using the recording studios up there… I also reported this on the Internet and I reported this incident to 311 emergency reporting system in New York City. TO THE BEAT recording studios and all the other music producers up on the seventh floor of the Film Center Building in New York City knew about this situation but did nothing. They advocate the sexual abuse and exploitation of underage kids (and also the sexual exploitation and abuse of women who are aged 18 to 25) up on that seventh floor! They sell drugs out of the recording studios up there, and a company called PROGRESSIVE MUSIC, and a company called FOREVER MUSIC TRUST who operate as 501c not-for-profit corporations have seriously violated the 501c corp. laws…. I also reported this fact many months ago. I myself was subjected to aggravated sexual harassment by Mikey Martin the drummer for SHINY TOY GUNS, as well as from several other studio engineers/producers on the seventh floor of the Film Center Building in New York City back in December/January 2005/2006.

 

Rob Dubuss

 

There's not much on him, but he comes to mind with Bill because him and Mikey were friends and they worked together during shows

 

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The main reason I think they would have been Bill and Jim is because of this interview where Lizzy says she drives around with Bill and Jim going to 7/11's

I would assume she used these name to protect their privacy, but there's really no one else who would have been friends enough to drive around together with Lana, besides Jimmy Gnecco and Reeve Carney who were also all friends, but there's no claims of Jimmy or Reeve being abusive so that theory sorta falls flat... 

 

Lana allegedly dated both of them in 2006, staying friends with Rob and could maybe explain the song Get Drunk, as well as a couple lyrics in it...

 

"I am sleeping with your best friend

How do you like me now"

 

Rob and Mikey both dating Lana right after each other

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"Come on, get drunk
You know you wanna
I am and you can
Won't tell no one about it"

 

Rob, Mikey, and Lana were all apart of a group called "ROAD RECOVERY" comprised of entertainment industry professionals whose lives have been touched by addiction and other adversities and now wish to make a positive impact on the lives of others. Road Recovery hosted many benefit concerts where Lizzy also played at a couple times with Tim Barr as said in this interview https://www.theaquarian.com/2014/05/21/an-interview-with-silverbird-dancing-with-the-spirits/

It seems like these lyrics seem to be Lana telling Mikey or Rob who were in recovery to drink with her in secret. 

 

I think thats all...

[urgirl 5,749]

The Aaron Greene thing is creeping me out. She wrote sirens in 2005-2006 where she references k being dead in bad disease but Aaron green died april 2007.

[revadece 1,452]

who chemtrails title track could be about? got me intrigued after her messing with the lyrics during amsterdam concert recently lol

[pawnblue 0]

On 7/9/2022 at 9:33 PM, fl0r1dakil0s said:

it's been ten years and i'm still trying to figure out who K is