Vertimus

let's stream wait for life instead

Ob is too wordy for me. I wish she could reintegrate spiritual references, colors, metaphors and secretful Passages, 13 beaches lyricism was like heaven. 

This better be a real performance and not a pre recorded video from her living room 

I especially blame Taylor Swift for emboldening artists to open up a dictionary/thesaurus to a random page and write a song around a word for which they obviously have no clue the meaning of. 

I wish it was punchier, it’s a little too subdued for me tbh.
 
The way he introduces her like “Lana?”

Also I hate New Jersey. It’s the armpit of America. But Wawa is its only redeeming quality change my mind
 

Absolutely not

I mean……….ok………? did the world really need the existence of this song though?

No one on this song knows what the hell an "alma mater" actually is...

wtf is this 

I just don't care for Jack's voice 

I didn't expect to be in the minority lol. I can't stand this song, Lana or no Lana. It's like nails on a chalkboard and I've been a Bleachers fan since before Jack started producing for the girlies. Literally painful to get thru but I'm glad other people like it 

The lyrics are sooo cringe lol

Love suburban house, hate this. 

Lana has production and songwriting credits on this song so she was at least more involved in it than something like Suburban House. 

A-men. 
 
It seems to me he's a critic's darling for all the wrong reasons; I don't think it has very much to do with his music or talent as a producer. But I like what he did on 'Solar Power.' 

dude wait for the track before judging

According to you. Suburban House is a really beautiful track.

i’ve grown to expect next to nothing from anything that says “featuring lana del rey.” we’ve been played way too many times not to know better 

been listening to nectar lately… so beautiful around this time of year. blue banisters is really her most misunderstood and underappreciated album ever

Thanks—got it. 

yeah village stands for a studio it was recorded at

I feel like she made the production simpler to make the lyrics even more the focal point of the songs (in some of them more than others). Like for example Kintsugi and Fingertips wouldn't hit as hard if they got a big orchestra or a complex instrumentation (and the orchestra in Fingertips is only really noticeable in specific points and lines of the song).
 
It also makes sense considering the most diverse production appears in the less serious songs like Peppers/TTxVB or for example Judah Smith interlude having the most intricate piano in comparison to other tracks. 
 
Other personal and deep songs on the album have prominent and beautiful strings (title track, The Grants) but they still have some simpler moments with room to breathe in comparison to BTD (album) for example, where there was something going on in the background at all times.
 
I prefer that kind of production tho, where even the instrumental on its own was a complete musical piece but I get why she had this switch considering her different approach to music and songwriting now 

Thanks. 

I didn't realise just how similar they sounded until you said that. That would explain my obsession with the two of them 
not too sure about the demo 

I'd like to see her change course, whatever we call the course she's on right now. I'd love to see her go 'full pop' for an album, like Meet Me in the Pale Moonlight, Ride, or Bel Air, not the half-hearted pop of 'Margaret,' with its needless chatter at the end, that only breaks the song up. Sometimes it is better to have a producer making a good deal of the decisions. look at what a great job Rick Rubin did on Ride. I miss the perfection of tracks like Wait for Life—certainly including the production. 
 
It's ironic, not iconic, for me that OB has received 3 Grammy nominations when it's such a scattershot effort, with a lot of poor production and though overall album cohesion doesn't matter a great deal to me, I see little on OB. Maybe the academy feels it's a sort of lifetime achievement nomination for Lana; I don't think those are fair. If an artist is considered for such an award, then let it be an outright 'Lifetime Achievement' award.
 
(Look at Joni Mitchell's crappy new 'Live At Newport' receiving a nomination because she's a legend and has had a hard last two decades. She only does what amount to backup vocals on most tracks, while younger singers take the lead.)
 
As far as the dreamy ballads go, it's hard to say, because everything since Honeymoon has been such a mishmash in terms of song styles and/or quality. We don't know if there's actual logic behind her final choices for an album or if it's done more like, "Well right now I feel this way, I just wrote and produced this song and I'm really excited about it." I tend to think the latter is closer to the truth. I don't think she's very objective about the choice of tracks she places on an album. It's a truism that most artists are poor judges of their own work, and I think that applies to Lana to some definite degree.
 
Since Tori Amos has had a long career in some ways similar to Lana's, and Tori was the artist I listened to the most before Lana and 2012, I know Amos constantly left her best material on the cutting room floor and instead placed often-cringy tracks on albums instead. The best material, which she would often discuss in media, al la 'Yosemite,' was either saved and released on a 'career retrospective' or other compilation project, or on the flip side of the release. As a result, these songs haven't entered broad American culture, are known by almost no one outside of the Amos Stan base, and will no doubt be swept away into the dustbin of history. Which is a shame. 
 
I think Lana will make a mature album, but certainly not necessarily a commercial one, when she takes her time to make and think an album through, limits her advisors, and sticks to some kind of conception of what she wants the result to be. The general public may not want an album of dreamy ballads, but her Stans do, I think (as opposed to tepid piano ballads). Things do change midway, plans and conceptions change, but maybe if she really takes her time before she starts recording, she can stick to some sort of a schedule or overall conception and the result won't be a compromise. I don't see Lana as an album artist because of the poor choices or compromises she has sometimes made lately. 
 
I am thrilled it's been such a big year for her. That she deserves.