TEMPORARY Chemtrails Over the Country Club - Pre-Release Thread: OUT March 19th, 2021

[AFFA 2,115]

7 minutes ago, hip hop in the summer said:

ok but do we believe her 

 

no. Even if it comes next friday, this is bs

[Marius 12,802]

11 minutes ago, hip hop in the summer said:

ok but do we believe her 

 

We’ve been hurt so many times 

 

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[Psychedelic Pussy 30,108]

We NEED an album trailer 

[heroindealer 11,041]

Just now, Pale Fire said:

We NEED an album trailer 

and snippets, it’s been dry af 

[kitschesque 9,882]

It's just so weird that COCC is literally coming in 2 weeks and we hadn't heard White Dress yet? Wtf?

[kitschesque 9,882]

26 minutes ago, paradisetropico said:

imagine march 19th rolls around and nothing happens ? 

Go stand in the corner and wonder what was it that you said that was so hurtful

[Future Jazz 9,194]

19 minutes ago, Creyk said:

Let me love you like a woman

Let me hold you like a baby

Let me be who I'm meant to be

 

I don't think most of you realize just how beautiful this is.

 

I really don't wanna get into a fight and I can see why you find it beautiful but I literally hate how 'who she's meant to me' is a man's 'baby' (defined in relationship to a man + in an inferior position, that of a baby) and how she essentialises womanhood (based on patriarchal stereotypes)  like Lana you can do so much better

[American Bore 815]

7 minutes ago, Future Jazz said:

I really don't wanna get into a fight and I can see why you find it beautiful but I literally hate how 'who she's meant to me' is a man's 'baby' (defined in relationship to a man + in an inferior position, that of a baby) and how she essentialises womanhood (based on patriarchal stereotypes)  like Lana you can do so much better

I see LMLYLAW as her talking about a more 'healthy' relationship. I interpret the lyrics as her wanting to hold him like a baby (as in he's her 'baby') and she lusts to look after him, as oppose to the reliance on men she portrays in her earlier work. I think the song in general might've been what caused her 'not not a feminist' comment - she wants a relationship that can feel old-style, in which they look after each other, rather than her being in a powerful position constantly. 

[Thunder Revenant 20,943]

23 minutes ago, Future Jazz said:

I really don't wanna get into a fight and I can see why you find it beautiful but I literally hate how 'who she's meant to me' is a man's 'baby' (defined in relationship to a man + in an inferior position, that of a baby) and how she essentialises womanhood (based on patriarchal stereotypes)  like Lana you can do so much better

"Let me hold you like a baby" is meant as in her holding him in her arms like a baby though.

[katebusho 5,078]

34 minutes ago, Future Jazz said:

I really don't wanna get into a fight and I can see why you find it beautiful but I literally hate how 'who she's meant to me' is a man's 'baby' (defined in relationship to a man + in an inferior position, that of a baby) and how she essentialises womanhood (based on patriarchal stereotypes)  like Lana you can do so much better

 

luv you got it wrong. she's definitely not saying she's meant to be a man's baby 

[Future Jazz 9,194]

20 minutes ago, fkitiloveme said:

I see LMLYLAW as her talking about a more 'healthy' relationship. I interpret the lyrics as her wanting to hold him like a baby (as in he's her 'baby') and she lusts to look after him, as oppose to the reliance on men she portrays in her earlier work. I think the song in general might've been what caused her 'not not a feminist' comment - she wants a relationship that can feel old-style, in which they look after each other, rather than her being in a powerful position constantly. 

 

8 minutes ago, Thunder Corpse said:

"Let me hold you like a baby" is meant as in her holding him in her arms like a baby though.

I've thought about that too but her outlook on womanhood (more present in her earlier work, but still there in songs like 'love song' for example) and the number of times she refers to herself as her boyfriend's baby (and not just saying 'baby', rather saying 'I'm your baby', 'just like a baby, spin me round like a child', 'the way you'd play with me like a child', 'i was so confused as a little child' and stuff like that) makes me think she's referring to herself as a baby in that lyric, to holding him the way a baby would hold a grown-up. But I might be wrong, and it's open to interpretation anyway 

[American Bore 815]

1 minute ago, Future Jazz said:

 

I've thought about that too but her outlook on womanhood (more present in her earlier work, but still there in songs like 'love song' for example) and the number of times she refers to herself as her boyfriend's baby (and not just saying 'baby', rather saying 'I'm your baby', 'just like a baby, spin me round like a child', 'the way you'd play with me like a child', 'i was so confused as a little child' and stuff like that) makes me think she's referring to herself as a baby in that lyric, to holding him the way a baby would hold a grown-up. But I might be wrong, and it's open to interpretation anyway 

That's an interesting take. I guess we'll have to see if the other tracks reveal anything about her current thought process re. power in relationships.

[Future Jazz 9,194]

6 minutes ago, katebusho said:

 

luv you got it wrong. she's definitely not saying she's meant to be a man's baby 

while i agree it's ambiguous who's referred to as a baby, 'let me be who i'm meant to be' clearly implies who she's meant to be is defined in relationship to a man, which i find to be debatable, were the relationship symmetrical (which i don't think it is)

[5Rick 2,925]

1 hour ago, Marius said:

We’ve been hurt so many times 

 

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So many adverts n promotions though 

[boom like that 11,882]

When Lana sang about organs playing in a gas station she was obviously talking about Not All Who Wander Are Lost   13 more days girlies 

[Thunder Revenant 20,943]

1 hour ago, Future Jazz said:

 

I've thought about that too but her outlook on womanhood (more present in her earlier work, but still there in songs like 'love song' for example) and the number of times she refers to herself as her boyfriend's baby (and not just saying 'baby', rather saying 'I'm your baby', 'just like a baby, spin me round like a child', 'the way you'd play with me like a child', 'i was so confused as a little child' and stuff like that) makes me think she's referring to herself as a baby in that lyric, to holding him the way a baby would hold a grown-up. But I might be wrong, and it's open to interpretation anyway 

Sorry but ... that makes no sense at all. Just because she often uses a word in a specific way, does not mean that the obvious meaning of that line has to be nonsensical and twisted Let's not step into the Lanapedia-trap here.

She wants to "love him like a woman" (whatever that means), she wants to hold him like her child. She draws on some sort of motherly-love-metaphor here. When you hold a baby you have a lot of responsibility, you care for it and you will most likely do anything to keep it safe and comfortable. That's what she's offering her man here, that's what she asks him to do - completely trust her, allow her to be close to him. In the end, the songs lyrics are about leaving LA together, probably to escape the city's stress and focus on their relationship/ settle down.

Holding someone/ something like a (literal) baby would do is not an idiom anyone really uses (not even if "baby" is used as a description for a lover), and the only thing that it potentially could mean does not fit in with the message of the chorus

[uvbabe 4,730]

Can't believe in two weeks time COCC will be among us. A blessing today. Happy Friday besties  

[lanasbottom 23,694]

2 hours ago, hip hop in the summer said:

ok but do we believe her 

 

no

[GeminiLanaFan 49,031]

2 hours ago, hip hop in the summer said:

ok but do we believe her 

 

Reminds me very much of the « second teaser » posted for the title track, with TJF at the beginning. It was a good edit but false AF. Plus the date isn’t completely written (Mar instead of March)?!? 

[BluebirdXO 7,679]

2 hours ago, Creyk said:

Let me love you like a woman

Let me hold you like a baby

Let me be who I'm meant to be

 

I don't think most of you realize just how beautiful this is.

 

Tacky. The kind of song that would play in a karaoke when everybody is drunk