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Whats so fascinating to me about Grimes...
 
Is based on her previous releases, in my mind she was such a forward thinking intellectual, a really talented artist who was unlike any other and was passionate about making sure she had her hands in every single part of her art from the production, lyrics, video, the artwork for her covers...
 
Fast forward to now and her releases are literally the epitome, the amalgamation of the most generic, lifeless, uninspired production, lazily using AI just for the gimmick of it, cant even be bothered to sing your own vocals because you think its "cool" an AI is doing it, generic trite lifeless slop artwork stolen from other artists through an AI in the most boring and pandering ways: "robot anime elf girl on crazy galaxy background" prompt type shit. Like its all just awful. 
 
And what makes it all truly for the worse is she seems to be completely oblivious of it all? She really seems to act like this is all cutting edge when it couldn't be any more on the nose and obvious. This is the type of stuff that I would tell an AI to make if somebody said to me: "Try to make the most hilariously stereotypical AI bro thing imaginable". 
 
And listen to her talk about it. There is no faux art-forward "irony" to it. She is obsessed with this slop. Just devouring it like a pig in a trough.

To me it was the leaking of Black Beauty, Hollywood, JFK and Starry Eyed. The songs were excellent and everybody was talking about them... BTD/Paradise era was coming to an end and we were all excited but also nervous about the new record and these songs, even if some were from previous sessions, gave us a glimpse of what Ultraviolence was going to reserve for all of us. Ah how I miss my teens

The way she was about to say really interesting shit a few times and just stopped mid sentence every time
 
she was gonna go on about being angry at someone in FMWUTTT, she was gonna talk about Hope’s music video, she was gonna answer any heavy question before rob got there, so many times I was left so curious. This was the best live she’s ever done and I think she was more comfortable because less people had access to it since honeymoon is private. I hope she does these more often, it was so interesting and heartwarming I loved it 

I love when she mentions music she listens to or books she reads, movies she likes, etc. I keep screenshots of them all afterward! I think someone had a thread of all her mentions over time — we should add yesterday’s to that!!

I cannot speak for others but this is not what my post meaned. I was saying that people praise her current lyrics as being somehow more relatable than the ones of the past, and I don't agree with that. I think that that's rather insulting to her and her past work, because I think she 100% made songs about Hollywood, etc, relatable and that was because of the expression of her thoughts and feelings - not about the scenarios themselves. I mean I don't have an LA boyfriend waiting for me under the palms but songs like 13 Beaches still resonate.
So whether or not you relate to a particular event is not the point; the point is that, in the past, her lyricism was more abstract and now it is very matter-of-fact. The fact that it was more abstract allowed me to relate no matter what the scenario was that she was singing about. These newer songs are less about the thoughts and feelings she derives from the events in her life, and more about what is actually happening in her life expressed in a diary-like manner. So imo they're more difficult to relate to, unless one is talking about the actual events and so I brought up the swimming pool to express that nobody wants, or cares, about relating to such mundane events. The thoughts and feelings are still there, but less so, and it's like a shift in lyrical priorities.
 

Based on what I heard from people who don't worship everything she releases, Lana definitely values quantity over quality. She really feels the need to release an album every year full of mediocre songs and a couple of decent ones instead of wanting to wait a couple of years until she has a spark of inspiration. She started from having no skips in BTD, UV and HM, to having a couple of in LFL and since then she has more and more skips and the songs being background noise. I don't have the leaked songs but I feel like half of the album will be skips. I look forward because it's Lana but I don't have high expectations. I wish she experimented with higher tempos or more upbeat songs. 

We've talked about it in here before but she really does need to stop with these diary-like lyrics. Enough.
Ever since VBBOTG, it's as if she thinks that every single word in her diary is so fantastic that needs to be bestowed upon the world in the form of a song or poem. As I've said before, there's no filtering, and there's also no development of thoughts. 
I also don't understand the people who say such lyrics are relatable. I go swimming in my friends' pools too but I don't listen to Blue Banisters and tear up because Jenny swam in Lana's pool. 
Her lyrics of the past invoked feelings because the ideas and statements were more developed and therefore much more meaningful. There was an element of wisdom and now that's missing. 
Possible album spoiler statement
I hope she takes a long break before she threatens to release her next album (covers excluded) because I think, without one, it's gonna be more of the same
 

I'm just gonna skip over this album (if the rest of the songs also sound like these 3) and just hope for the next one lol
It's not that I necessarily want BEATS or some big bop song, I just want some decent production, kind of like how the chorus change up part in Text Book moved me for a while. I'm tired of all these stripped down piano ballad snooze fests, it all sounds the same over and over and each era I like less and less of them, this time being zero so far 
 
I love her to death like I've never been into an artist the way I have with Lana... She's been a massive part of my youth and life and I doubt I'll ever completely let go of her, so this is really hard for me, but I do look forward to a future era 
 
Also I've seen people who've posted similar opinions get chewed up lmao - just a reminder that this is an opinion thread, and most of us are fans of many many years. Everyone should be able to share what they love and don't love without someone feeling personally attacked damn

I'm scared of the lyrical content of the next songs. I hope we have at least one lighter song to bring light to the record, otherwise it's going to be unlistable for me 
 
 
 

I feel you, I'm also starting to not enjoy her new stuff anymore. It's simply not my taste. TO ME(!) BB is so boring it's pretty much unlistenable, TB is meh and the only really good part in WW are the "hot" lines. It's kind of like falling out of love in a long term relationship, right? I've been a fan since early 2013...
 
And then we get leaks like Thunder and I wonder how this project was never released. Like, privately she still makes the kind of music I love (with great lyrics!) but for some reason keeps it to herself.

NFR is nowhere near her best album... I see most fans consider it her best or like top 3 best of all her albums. It’s GOOD don’t get me wrong, but it’s incredibly overrated & doesn’t hold a candle to BTD, UV, HM, or AKA. 
 
maybe I need to give it another chance, but yeah... when the album came out I listened to it in full maybe 5 times, and at least half the songs just didn’t do it for me. I only listen to like 3-4 songs from NFR to this day. 

the only part of the 3 new songs I like is the chorus of Text Book, if you asked me to recite a single line or melody from any of the songs apart from that 1 chorus i wouldn’t be able to. everything abt them is just forgettable and the mixing on all of them is trash

The 3 singles r a mess, she shouldve released it as poems. She fell off hard after nfr

I am really sick of her namedropping people in her songs, especially after today
It's okay to do in moderation but enough is enough
I get that it's hEr LiFe but Jesus, Chuck and Jen and Nikki and Charlie and Joni and Joan and whoever else do not need to be mentioned in every song ever
Less is more. She does it so much that it is not lyrically impactful at all because it's just a mish-mash of names
There's a reason the CD booklet usually has a page for acknowledgements and she should use it

From what I can tell, Lana has become too proud of improvising and then settling for whatever comes out. From her older demos we've seen just how many versions upon versions there are of songs, yet it feels like she can't be bothered to perfect them anymore. I don't get this obsession with a stripped back sound, as if that makes it more authentic. No, after awhile, it makes the songs BORING. I've always loved her because of her versatility but it feels like she doesn't want to change things up anymore.

It's Jack's production for me. I will say that 'Venice Bitch' is a spectacular song and overall I have enjoyed 'Chemtrails' way more than 'NFR', but I am so over the minimalistic, panio ballad-y and acoustic approach. Besides a few key tracks, she has become incredibly palatable.

I've been having a hard time connecting to the melodies of 99% of the songs from NFR and COCC. I don't know how to explain it but I feel like most melodies post L4L have been a bit of a drag. Before they were so well constructed, pleasing and memorable but now they're kinda dull imo. They were freestyles and it shows.
 
Don't get me wrong, some of her melodies post L4L are really good but they're few and far between imo.
 
For example, the melodies of yosemite vs carmen. Carmen is really well constructed melodically but yosemite is a bit lacklustre. You can tell that yosemite was improvised or had less thought put into it then Carmen's melody

who really cares about single artwork?
 
the only artwork that matters is album artwork

It’s weird how she went from one of the most visually creative artists inspiring tumblr to where she’s being laughed at now.

I literally said it aged poorly for me... 

I usually say ‘It got stale or boring fast’ I don’t think COCC is bad but with most albums there is a washout period where a break is required before you can enjoy the music again. 

a fandom opinion more than a lana opinion, but i wish people would understand that when some fans talk about wanting a trap or hiphop sound from lana we don't mean an album full of In My Feelings or Summer Bummers.... we mean a trap or hiphop influence mixed with lana's trademark sound 
 
altho Summer Bummer is one of my fav lana songs so sure go ahead and give me an album's worth if you feel like it bestie

Can we talk about how seductive Lana looks in the video. She looks like a Hollywood starlet filming a cowboy fantasy romance. Brokeback Mountain but make it straight. 

I'm genuinely looking forward to hearing this next project, and I'll always find a song or more I like on her album, but after the past two records I'm getting bored of the soft and somewhat subdued approach. We get it, you can do cute piano tracks or pretty acoustic tunes Lana.
 
I'm more than ready for a sonic shift, something bombastic and intense, it's honestly lacking right now.

Only half the album of Chemtrails is good, if even that much. Is this an unpopular opinion?
But I have always supported queen mother every era and stream it regardless.