Shades

i posted a status update but i remembered this thread exists so
pls critique me or roast me idk
thank u
 
 

i posted a status update but i remembered this thread exists so
pls critique me or roast me idk
thank u
 
 

i am well aware how cheesy this is but I couldn't help myself last night
 

I get you tbh. There was a time I didn't care for those songs since both me and the world overplayed them. But I appreciate the place they were coming from and in what period of time they were released... and besides I was 12 when she released BTD! Now I listen to them with another mindset and after actually living life. 
 
Do you think she could've released BTD now? I mean, with some of those lyrics... It caused a lil outrage back (to tha basics) then, I can't imagine now. I'm sure music industry wouldn't be what it is today w/o her. 
 
Besides... Those red Converse she used in the BTD video!
 
Remember when she was seen w Axl Rose? And later Marilyn Manson? God, I love her.

Nobody was like her. No one did things like Blue Jeans, VG, BTD and SS, she BLEW MY MIND with the Born To Die video... Her expressions, the visuals, everything she represented. She was so sensual ❤ so different and special. The Blue Jeans video too — whenever I watch it I go "Oh my Goddddd" and tbh that annoying backup "Sing!" ... I love it. 

I'm so nostalgic! 

(Sorry for bumping this thread and maybe excite some people thinking there's something new)

So, I'm trying to get into Fiona Apple as I fell in love with her latest album (what a masterpiece, perhaps the most perfect album of the year, but to me the best one goes to SAWAYAMA taste wise) and after playing Tidal (what a moody album!!) I'm playing right now her sophomore and all I can think about is: Her voice and Sky's are very similar sounding in some moments!

Maybe Sky tried to mold her voice in a way (her deep voice) to sound just like Fiona, as she is a HUGE fan of her (even copying her album release schedule LOL).

now why she got a lil southern twang in her voice 

i love her standing up to media outlets trying to put words in her mouth but i am so sick of her victimizing herself w the most tone deaf “i grew up poor” “i have black friends” bs

I just saw a comment from someone on line calling her, " Kountry Klub Karen".
Creative but hurtful. I will weep Lana's tears.

The biggest disappoint is that Annie didn't get to ask about the covers album or about the poetry - actually before the interview started Annie said that Lana had a book of poetry "dropping soon" ?? . I assume whoever organised the interview would've provided her with some talking points hence Annie being totally caught off guard and being unsure how to navigate away from the racism defence, but the segue for this would've been her 2020 question, and then the only time music got brought up was when someone at that exact moment felt the need to interrupt the entire interview to fix a chimney. 

So next time Annie should just hung up once lana picks up i guess? The ability of Lana to twist any question about anything to something QFTC or trump related yesterday was honestly astonishing. I don't get what you're trying to say with you saying Annie was soooo unprofessional when most of her questions were extremely easy to answer with almost anything COCC (song / video / album) related.

I just feel like it's LA celebrities in particular who are in this weird bubble and they tell you they know what's going on in the world...but they really don't? There's something about lviing in that place that makes them become these insufferable privileged supreme beings. Very weird.
 
I'm going to boil her incoherent speech down to painkillers + morning brain fog.

she's..... getting her chimney fixed..... which is..... nice????

I find it so bizarre how someone who's so thoughtful + insightful + well-spoken in her songs/poems is so incoherent and unintelligible in her regular conversations/social media posts. It's like songwriting is the only way she knows how to communicate. Her mind is genuinely so perplexing to me  

She's not unhinged, or unhappy, she's. just. so. Strange. and. Wild.

When Madonna, of all people, says that you are in dire need of attention, you know you're fucked. 

Yes thank you for all of this! 
 
And it's so true. Her words will stop being taken out of context when she puts more effort into them. Fans who relentlessly defend her are literally the ones putting words in her mouth "OMG SHE MEANT THIS, NOT THIS" like okay then why did she say it like that?????

After this album drops and Behind The Iron Gates is out, I can see Lana disappearing for a longer time. I keep thinking this is the beginning of her career’s twilight 

normalise saying "im not really sure how to word my point right now given the time constraints or the restrictions of my on-the-spot articulation abilities" so that people like lana don't show their asses like this constantly ?
 
what i think lana might have been trying to say:
"Climate change is a really big issue, just like capitalism - but having Trump in office really brought to the forefront of the public consciousness the ways that narcissism and sociopathy allow these issues to continue and develop. We should pay attention to the ills of climate change and the effects of a capitalistic society, but when we are giving massive amounts of power to individuals we should also inspect those individuals for displays of narcissism and sociopathy - how can we expect someone to heal communities or an entire country if they are narcissists that only think of themselves, or sociopaths that have no remorse for their actions?"
 
what lana came across as saying to someone who is not a fan:
"As a privileged rich white woman who has shown time and time again that she is ignorant and certainly that she cannot take constructive criticism - hence the fact that I spent half of this interview trying to prove how totally not racist I am - I am dismissing the issue of climate change and pinning the terrifyingly catastrophic state of the world on some abstract strain of ~narcissism~ because I care more about making a fake deep point and providing an enticing pseudo-philiosphical headline and soundbite than being responsible with my platform. This will likely cause uproar and I know it. I do not care to find out why this will upset people."
 
what i think lana might have been trying to say, part two:
"The madness of Trump really emboldened a lot of very bad people. As bad as his presidency was, the one thing we can take away from it is that it exposed a lot of people for who they really are - some famous people, some acquaintances, some people we may even have been close to. Having Trump in office made these people feel free to be as racist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic and xenophobic as they wanted to be, because he did the same. This isn't good, but it proves that we still have a very long way to go and a very hard battle to fight. I'm glad we had more of a spotlight on social justice, but it's a shame it came around because of someone as evil as Trump taking office."
 
what lana came across as saying to someone who is not a fan, part two:
"Trump's presidency was terrible. He is responsible for thousands of deaths - some due to his poor handling of COVID, some due to hate crimes that he emboldened his followers and supporters to carry out, some due to police brutality that he did absolutely nothing to tackle and in many cases encouraged, some due to the absolute poverty many Americans are living in, some due to stress-related organ failures as many American citizens work themselves quite literally to death. He is a fascist. He is an alleged rapist. He is awful. He has inspired hatred in thousands, if not millions, of Americans. However, literally none of this will ever affect me as I live in my bubble of LA millionaire privilege. Because of this, I will say that his presidency 'had to happen'. How else would my rich valley girl eyes have been opened if not for a literal fascist becoming President leading to the deaths of thousands of people? It means nothing to me that marginalised people have been living this reality since before he even ran for President. Thank goodness he came into power so that I and my matcha tea IG baddie friends could learn just a little bit about the real world. Yep, it totally had to happen!!! "
 
Now, let me be very very clear - I'm not saying this is entirely how her words came across to me. I'm just trying to put across extreme examples of how her words might seem to people that don't know her better - especially given the current social climate, where things are so hard for everybody and Trump has a hell of a lot to answer for. It is extremely fair for people to be mad over what she said, whether they are fans, non-fans, members of the general public, or even haters tbh. Lana is an extremely privileged woman who has had the luxury of ignorance (something she's displayed a lot of recently) while people are really really suffering. People are angry and are turning on the idea of celebrities in general tbh - so naturally many people are going to react to the absolutely ignorant words of a millionaire white lady with some level of hostility because people are going through hell, and hearing the words "it had to happen" regarding Trump's presidency - something that has destroyed the lives of a ridiculous number of people, as well as enabled hate crime and violence in the streets and in the Capitol - is going to trigger something in a lot of people.
 
Nobody has to be perfect. Hell, I don't think anyone can be! But there is a lot to be said for sensitivity and solidarity. No matter how deep and profound your potentially-controversial thought might be in your brain, if you're someone in Lana's position and you're on a huge platform on live radio with thousands listening and you can't word it without it coming across as insulting to the average working class person while on the spot..... maybe save it for when you can really articulate it and give it the nuance it deserves. That way, you're less likely to hurt people and more likely to be understood and potentially put a really necessary perspective out there! Who knows.
 
Also, about that "out of context" headline - the context really doesn't make it much better. Please don't harass the writer of the article. She said those words, they didn't lie about her. Clickbait is a given in journalism now sadly. Context or no context, people are gonna be furious with what Lana said. The headline isn't a good look but again, it's a direct quote from her so... yknow.

The fact that they apparently where on a video call, imagine being Annie Mac and trying to keep a straight face while talking at her "mmh", "yeah, sure", "that's right", and at the same time trying to decipher what the hell was the idea she was trying to create in her head. Definetly a special interview.

if people are actually upset by what this one random celebrity has said they need HELP girl they need therapy. bitches choose to be upset 

The overexplaining oneself is such a Gemini-like thing, especially when they feel misjudged/misunderstood. I assume it feels like a real bad itch that you cannot scratch (making people understand your POV/accept your truth and move on). 

the way she just says shit

"so Lana what will the sound of the album be like?"
 
*chimney guy appear*
 
"What was my question again ? Mmmmh nevermind... so how did you survive 2020?"